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masculine über linear logical club
(prse) - MLife

Locale: Denmark
Snowden on 07/02/2013 03:57:18 MDT Print View

What's your thinking on the Snowden case?

I hope he gets asylum.

Matthew Perry
(bigfoot2) - F

Locale: Oregon
Snowden. on 07/02/2013 12:26:15 MDT Print View

Patriot.

M

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Snowden. on 07/02/2013 13:39:37 MDT Print View

Absolute Traitor.

I was hoping he would leak something about the Kardashians.

BTW, he is hiding in my shed right now.

masculine über linear logical club
(prse) - MLife

Locale: Denmark
Re: Re: Snowden. on 07/03/2013 06:15:48 MDT Print View

Dave, you get a kick out of being secretly watched?...you dirty man... ;-)

Edited by prse on 07/03/2013 06:25:17 MDT.

masculine über linear logical club
(prse) - MLife

Locale: Denmark
Sideeffect on 07/03/2013 06:34:33 MDT Print View

FWIW, i feel like revisiting two great movies:

-The Conversation
-Das Leben der Anderen

Highly recommended movies!

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Sideeffect on 07/03/2013 06:39:44 MDT Print View

Ah, the Germans have made some wonderful movies. The Lives of Others was a fabulous flick. Other favorites (though not on the theme of this thread) are Goodbye, Lenin; Downfall; and Wings of Desire.

masculine über linear logical club
(prse) - MLife

Locale: Denmark
More on 07/03/2013 07:00:34 MDT Print View

Doug, they certainly have. A lot of those I haven't seen. Great.
Another favorite of mine is Die fälscher (the counterfeits).

And not to forget: Das Boot! (good luck finding your preferred version...)

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: More on 07/03/2013 07:26:03 MDT Print View

Let us not forget Manta Manta.

My girlfriend dogged me pretty good when I bought a VW GTI in Germany. I hadn't seen this movie yet so I didn't understand the reference at the time.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: More on 07/03/2013 09:35:54 MDT Print View

Ah yes, Das Boot!

I remember when SCTV did a skit called Das Boobs! with Eugene Levy and John Candy. I think Martin Short was in that as well. Obviously (and clearly) a Canadian perspective.

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: Re: More on 07/11/2013 13:56:02 MDT Print View

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/07/james-clapper-apologizes-to-congress-for-clearly-erroneous-testimony/

Clapper testified that the NSA doesn't collect data on U.S. citizens

Snowden released such data

Clapper apologizedn for lying

I guess Snowden is a hero whistle blower

David Olsen
(oware)

Locale: Steptoe Butte
NSA knows if you're naughty or nice, books you read and guns you own? on 07/12/2013 08:22:53 MDT Print View

"Senators are questioning whether the National Security Agency collected bulk data on more than just Americans’ phone records, such as firearm and book purchases. A bipartisan group of 26 senators, led by Sen. Ron Wyden (D., Ore.) asked Director of National Intelligence James Clapper to detail the scope and limits of the National Security Agency’s surveillance activities in a letter released Friday."

http://www.politisite.com/2013/06/29/nsa-collecting-gun-purchase-data/#.UeAQHBzbX-k

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
The Witch Hunt on 07/12/2013 16:38:03 MDT Print View

With Obama and Kerry threatening everyone with "consequences" -- I think we are making a spectacle of ourselves.

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: Re: Re: More on 07/12/2013 17:16:50 MDT Print View

"Clapper apologizedn for lying"

Nah, he didn't lie; he just gave the "least untruthful answer". There is actually a
difference in the minds of creatures like him, you know.

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
Re: More on 07/12/2013 19:14:08 MDT Print View

My issue is massive surveillance done in secrecy.

Yes, our government needs pertinent intelligence to help ensure everyone's safety. No one wants another 9-11 surprise. I can deal with secret surveillance but that should be narrowly focused (e.g. surveillance on parties that intelligence has reasons to suspect over potential terrorism). I can also deal with massive surveillance but that should be done openly (e.g. closed circuit cameras placed in public places). But I have major issues with secret and massive surveillance during peace time. And no, we are not at war -- despite Bush's so-called 'war on terror'.

Just came across today that Microsoft too provides NSA with access to encrypted files. Wasn't so long ago when Congress raked Jerry Yang (the ex Yahoo guy) over the coals for cowardice when Yahoo's Chinese operation complied with Chinese laws and handed over requested data. Well, well, well...

Source: The Guardian.