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kevin campbell
(rockymtbiker) - F

Locale: Michigan
PCT Bear Bag Hang on 06/24/2013 00:19:38 MDT Print View

I got a Bear Bag rig from some http://www.mountainlaureldesigns.com last year, cuben throw bag THAT doubles as stuff sack & super light rope, and I used the clover hitch & a stick to keep it in place. Worked pretty good, but it wasn't the easiest thing to rig with only 2 hands.

I stumbled upon this method today, and was wondering if anyone used it. It is the "Knotless PCT Bear Bag Hang" and it uses a peice of PVC pipe cut to a couple inches to secure it in place & no knot is used, but it uses a kinda hitch. Here is the youtube video to explain it. I ended up cutting a small section of the end of a caulk tube (the end where the caulk isn't coming out of)INSTEAD of using pvc, as the caulk tube was about 1/4 the weight. HA!

Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpR_LEoD5PU

I gave it a try tonight here at the house, and the knotless rig used to do it is very simple to understand and apply to the rig. Might be worth a look if you use a Bear Bag...

Pete Staehling
(staehpj1) - F
Really? on 06/24/2013 05:11:01 MDT Print View

The reference to having to pull all the line through a clove hitch is bogus in the case of tying it on a stick. You throw the two loops and put the stick through. The clove hitch is actually easier than messing with the pvc pipe and eliminates carrying one more thing.

The reference to the clove hitch being hard to untie is also a stretch.

Edit: This vid shows the PCT method and shows the clove hitch being tied without feeding the line through:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qgBLDMuPuvE

In the PVC vid looks like he is tying a marlin spike hitch. You could use that just as well without the pvc using the stick instead.

Edited by staehpj1 on 06/24/2013 05:16:20 MDT.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife
Re: Really? on 06/24/2013 06:10:26 MDT Print View

"The clove hitch is actually easier than messing with the pvc pipe and eliminates carrying one more thing."

Really +1

Link .
(annapurna) - MLife
Re: PCT Bear Bag Hang on 06/24/2013 08:36:41 MDT Print View

Kevin, did you notice who put out that video :) Here is the original article.

kevin campbell
(rockymtbiker) - F

Locale: Michigan
over... on 06/24/2013 14:38:41 MDT Print View

I had a tough time with the traditional method last year & I ain't weak OR inept by any means, so this is an alternative for me to try, if nothing else. I'll bring the tiny peice of vinyl tube, for fun if nothing else & if it seems harder than the traditional method, then I'll grab the nearest stick & get back to what brought me to the dance in the first place!

OK, and for those of you reading, I found out on youtube how to indeed tie a clove hitch without having to run the line the entire length to get it threw the loop of the hitch, as mentioned above. Here is the youtube link for that, it is towards the end of the clove hitch how to segment, he does it twice close up & it easier than tying the clove hitch the other way, in my opinion. I did it here at the house & it might indeed be the way to go. We shall see, I'll bring all 3 "methods" with me to hike this summer & see which one works best!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3DLRpUn6ec

Enjoy, Kevin

Pete Staehling
(staehpj1) - F
Video on 06/24/2013 16:18:34 MDT Print View

That video shows what I was awkwardly trying to describe, but much more clearly.

Good luck sorting out what works best for you.

Edited by staehpj1 on 06/24/2013 16:19:25 MDT.

John S.
(jshann) - F
Re: PCT Bear Bag Hang on 06/24/2013 16:58:26 MDT Print View

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3s87FuTrdwQ&feature=plcp

Another way to tie a clove hitch.

Trace Richardson
(tracedef) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
PVC Pipe on 06/24/2013 18:17:26 MDT Print View

I have used a tiny piece of PVC pipe for years and it works great .... http://instagram.com/p/G4GHbJRmIv/

Todd Taylor
(texasbb) - F

Locale: Pacific Northwest
What Pete and Ken said on 06/24/2013 19:26:51 MDT Print View

I watched that PVC video some time ago and have to admit I'm bumfuzzled how it could be considered easier than a clove hitch. Is *anything* easier than a clove hitch?

Kiel Senninger
(Kiel.S.) - F

Locale: San Diego
+1 clove hitch on 06/24/2013 23:06:56 MDT Print View

+1 to the clove hitch. twist a loop as high as you can reach, then twist another one next to it going the opposite direction and put a stick in it. not that the pvc weighs much, but it's one less thing to lose.

here's a video i found. pretty much the same as your 2nd video kevin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBHUfLT_p4U

Edited by Kiel.S. on 06/24/2013 23:41:47 MDT.

Will Webster
(WillWeb) - M
Slip knot on 06/25/2013 17:38:58 MDT Print View

I'll admit, sometimes at the end of a long day while holding the weight of a bear bag over my head, my fingers get confused trying to throw a clove hitch. Probably means I need to get out more. When that happens I just make a slip knot; works just as well. If it doesn't want to untie in the morning I break the stick at the knot.

kevin campbell
(rockymtbiker) - F

Locale: Michigan
h on 06/25/2013 22:42:47 MDT Print View

IN the end, non of it would be fun if it was as easy as pie, now would it! At least that is what someone once said!