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(LunchANDYnner) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Rust-O-Leum NeverWet on 06/18/2013 22:44:19 MDT Print View

http://lancasteronline.com/article/local/861483_Magical-NeverWet-arrives-in-stores.html

Its out. Looks pretty nice, It says its safe on fabrics, but we'll see what all it's safe on.

I wonder if it's safe on colors or if it'll turn things white like the early preproduction versions did. The videos mostly only show white clothes/shoes.
It'll still be nice for shoes and stuff.

Troy Hawkins
(ollyisk) - F - MLife

Locale: Germany
re: on 06/19/2013 03:16:47 MDT Print View

Can't wait to check this stuff out!

If Rust-O-Leum was willing to pick it up, I'm assuming it will live up to its potential.

scree ride
(scree)
Gortex in a can? on 06/19/2013 05:29:36 MDT Print View

"Magic liquid" sounds a bit like hype. If it does work, wow! I have some sealer in a can. Triples the fabric weight, but you can build a window screen boat with it.

Justin Baker
(justin_baker) - F

Locale: west coast best coast
Re: Rust-O-Leum NeverWet on 06/19/2013 09:54:50 MDT Print View

Someone needs to apply this to a windshirt and go for a hike in heavy rain. I really want to know how well it works.

michael levi
(M.L) - F

Locale: W-Never Eat Soggy (W)affles
re on 06/19/2013 11:14:47 MDT Print View

After a while you might as well just spray on clear coat. If it's truly waterproof it won't be breathable.

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: Re: Rust-O-Leum NeverWet on 06/19/2013 11:20:34 MDT Print View

Someone needs to apply this to 0.7 oz/yd2 fabric - nobul or M50 or whatever

Eric Blumensaadt
(Danepacker) - MLife

Locale: Mojave Desert
The "Holy Grail" of DWR? on 06/19/2013 11:25:19 MDT Print View

I hope this stuff is as good as it's claimed.

If so, like carbon fiber poles, cuben fiber shelters and good WPBs (eg. eVent) we are getting less weight and more performance.

Who knows, it may supplant silicone in the treatment of nylon for tent material.

If we can apply this to our present gear with assurance that it is fairly permenant I see a huge market for it among all outdoor sports - and, of course, the military.

Maybe it has side benefits like being a bug repellant, curing arthritis and ED, increasing endorphine release, etc. :o)

Steofan The Apostate
(simaulius) - F

Locale: Bohemian Alps
re: Rust-O-Leum NeverWet on 06/19/2013 14:46:22 MDT Print View

How much information do we have on this wonder-molecule?
Does this stuff wear off? If it does wear off, does it breakdown or does it bond to something else?

Richard Banks
(EDDAKA) - M
Ultra-ever dry on 06/19/2013 15:08:53 MDT Print View

Reminds me of "ultra ever dry"

http://youtu.be/IfUaKXasdD4

Erik Basil
(EBasil) - M

Locale: Atzlan
On silnylon on 06/19/2013 16:05:13 MDT Print View

I want to know how and what it will do, coating the fly on my tent. No more wet fly? Might be wonderful on my backpack, too.

Larry De La Briandais
(Hitech) - F

Locale: SF Bay Area
Available at Home Depot on 06/19/2013 16:12:36 MDT Print View

It is available now at Home Depot:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/204216476?productId=204216476&storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&cm_sp=Homepage-_-6_17-_-Hero1-_-Shop_Rust_Oleum_Neverwet#.UcIsIfm1GT8

Edited by Hitech on 06/19/2013 16:18:43 MDT.

Raymond Estrella
(rayestrella) - MLife

Locale: Northern Minnesota
Why on white on 06/20/2013 04:34:00 MDT Print View

"While the current Rust-Oleum NeverWet leaves a frosty haze, Hobson said a transparent application will "absolutely" be among the future versions"

That explains the white-only demo products...

Larry De La Briandais
(Hitech) - F

Locale: SF Bay Area
I ordered some on 06/20/2013 09:39:29 MDT Print View

I plan to use it around the house first, but I will treat a scrap of nylon (the stuff ray jardin uses for quilts) and see how it performs as a DWR.

Brett Peugh
(bpeugh) - F - M

Locale: Midwest
it would be nice on 06/20/2013 14:06:33 MDT Print View

It will be nice if it does work long term. Turn that $20 windshirt into a 5oz rain jacket.

Matt Dirksen
(NamelessWay) - MLife

Locale: Mid Atlantic
Re: it would be nice on 06/22/2013 07:26:29 MDT Print View

Why am I reminded of the days when Scotchguard showed up on the market?

I can certainly see its utility, but I just can't seem to envision myself sleeping in a tent sprayed with this stuff, or sporting a jacket "field applied" with it. I just get the feeling like this is one of those "too good to be true" things, and it will eventually be recalled for something toxic-related. (Lest we forget "Bisphenol A"?)

Moreover, I'd be very curious what my companions in the greenbuilding industry think of it. "Low VOC" doesn't quite cut it, in my book.

... Time will tell....

Jason G
(JasonG) - F

Locale: iceberg lake
testing! on 06/22/2013 18:57:04 MDT Print View

Let the testing begin!

nw


heres the product sheet fwi

nw2



(heres an enhanced version..)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MJXtq9YAu6s/UcZIOlF7xzI/AAAAAAAAAqg/4VGgLMHX82M/w1106-h725-no/SCAN0004.JPG

Edited by JasonG on 06/22/2013 19:01:35 MDT.

Colin Krusor
(ckrusor) - M

Locale: Northwest US
NeverWet on 06/23/2013 09:51:27 MDT Print View

Thanks, Jason. I'm looking forward to your observations of treated fabrics. In particular, I'm curious about fabrics that have been treated, then exposed to dirt, washed, etc.

peter vacco
(fluff@inreach.com) - M

Locale: no. california
Re: NeverWet on 06/23/2013 10:42:24 MDT Print View

yes. another + for Jason.
--
perhaps i am in one of "those" moods. but this thread seems quite the " but who will help me eat the bread ? ".

ie : much asking of questions and want of free information ... and no effort.

Go Jason !

v.

Jason G
(JasonG) - F

Locale: iceberg lake
Re: Re: NeverWet on 06/24/2013 12:17:48 MDT Print View

nm

Edited by JasonG on 01/02/2014 00:36:44 MST.

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
NOT for fabric on 06/24/2013 16:43:41 MDT Print View

Hi All

From what I can tell, this product works by trapping a film of air at the surface, with the water sitting on top of the air. The nano-scale details are the secret. This works OK for low-pressure water hitting the surface.

It will not work against high pressure water, against abrasion, or on a soft fabric. When you combine a soft fabric with rubbing against wet scrub you are going to get very rapid wetting through.

No magic here folks.

Cheers