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Erik Dietz
(erikdtz)

Locale: Los Angeles
Safe vs. Unsafe on 07/02/2013 11:30:20 MDT Print View

These are just my thoughts:

1. If I was commonly hiking in areas that I thought were unsafe (high chance of pot farms near by) and I was legally able to carry a firearm AND felt competent in my ability to use it then I would probably carry. Especially if I was hiking solo or with somebody (i.e. a wife/girlfriend, kids, etc) where I felt responsible for their safety and protection. However since I do most of my hiking with a buddy and in the Sierras, I don't feel the need.

2. I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with somebody carrying a firearm while hiking. What makes it a little sketchy (for me) is not knowing that persons skill level or intent. I came across a group of guys who were fishing in the Sespe River last summer and they were all carrying handguns and big knives. At first I was a little on guard, especially since I was with my girlfriend and she was sunbathing, but they turned out to be nice enough and it was no big deal. However, if their intent wasn't friendly then there wouldn't be much I could do. That's the part that makes me uncomfortable.

Erik

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: what to do when encountering guns on the trail on 07/02/2013 11:30:57 MDT Print View

Well at least I have a new wiping technique to try out the next time I have to drop a deuce in the back 40.

Matthew Perry
(bigfoot2) - F

Locale: Oregon
Hmmmm? on 07/02/2013 11:31:19 MDT Print View

"and I don't have to see Craig mount one."

Meh, the mounting isn't all that spectacular. It's the dismount that you'll never forget...."

Depends on the dog being mounted, I guess.........

devil dog


And while we are talking dogs, my son sent me this (he's missing his dog back here in the states)---WARNING...only watch with tissues:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_cQ2vqjW1I&list=UUG6yM3tzyRBZxkyS3cKM-DQ

Edited by bigfoot2 on 07/02/2013 12:21:21 MDT.

David Chenault
(DaveC) - BPL Staff - F

Locale: Crown of the Continent
fairness on 07/02/2013 14:12:29 MDT Print View

A certain amount of name-calling is going to happen in chaff. I draw the line at the inneudo of rape/assault/trauma and generally blatant misogyny.

Matthew Perry
(bigfoot2) - F

Locale: Oregon
Weak. Just making excuses. on 07/02/2013 14:21:57 MDT Print View

"A certain amount of name-calling is going to happen in chaff. I draw the line at the inneudo of rape/assault/trauma and generally blatant misogyny."

---Then you should have drawn the line when the same question was directed at me earlier. What about MISANDRY? Is THAT allowed?
The names I was called go way beyond the realm of common conversation and well into slander and character assassination.
M

Edited by bigfoot2 on 07/02/2013 16:48:58 MDT.

Dave T
(DaveT) - F
jobbery. on 07/02/2013 14:46:35 MDT Print View

Matthew Perry just can't be stopped.

He'll teabag and nutjob and new world order forever.

I'm just glad his proud 'merican son is protecting our ability to talk nonsense on a backpacking forum. Well done! If he weren't in them there Afganistan, this whole forum would probably get shut down by the Taliban, Obamacare, Socialists/Fascists, the United Nations, global vaccination hoax, or some durn thing. Whooorah or hooooray or whatever it is.

Matthew Perry
(bigfoot2) - F

Locale: Oregon
(sigh) on 07/02/2013 15:15:26 MDT Print View

Thank you, Dave T, for proving my point so eloquently.


M

Edited by bigfoot2 on 07/02/2013 15:19:09 MDT.

Lyan Jordan
(redmonk)

Locale: Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem
what to do when encountering guns on the trail on 07/02/2013 15:30:05 MDT Print View

And now we wait for the moderator to mount the offending gun owner and establish alpha dominance.

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: jobbery. on 07/02/2013 17:16:12 MDT Print View

"I'm just glad his proud 'merican son is protecting our ability to talk nonsense on a backpacking forum. Well done! If he weren't in them there Afganistan, this whole forum would probably get shut down by the Taliban, Obamacare, Socialists/Fascists, the United Nations, global vaccination hoax, or some durn thing. Whooorah or hooooray or whatever it is."

Dave T. that was just such a wonderful thing to say. I really hope you have a nice day and that all your dreams come true.

David Olsen
(oware)

Locale: Steptoe Butte
what to doo on 07/02/2013 17:57:43 MDT Print View

"My dog is actually very good at using ground cover, pine needles, soft grass, etc to wipe his bottom. He needs no toilet paper at all."

That is all well and good until the dog decides my sleeping pad looks softer than the decomposed granite everywhere else at the
campsite. Not good, especially at a dry camp.bo rocks

Edited by oware on 07/02/2013 18:05:28 MDT.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: jobbery. on 07/02/2013 19:21:41 MDT Print View

That young men and women venture daily beyond the confines of their FOB often not knowing if this is the day they get shot in an attack or blown up by an IED or, just as bad, have to watch it happen to one or some of their friends, is exceptionally courageous. Regardless of your personal feelings on whether or not we belong in Afghanistan, using one of these deployed, in this case Marines, to mock his father and, inadvertently or not, mocking the servicemember as well, is repugnant. And this in a thread that's seen more than its share of repugnant posts from both sides of the 'gun in the woods' "debate."

For a group of highly educated people, a bunch of you sure do come off as pretty damned ignorant sometimes.

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: Re: jobbery. on 07/02/2013 20:15:40 MDT Print View

Well said Doug.

Dave T., I really hope that you'll remove or modify your response. If you don't understand why your comment is unbelievably low class then that is unfortunate but please understand that it is.

Dave T
(DaveT) - F
props r' us on 07/02/2013 20:19:29 MDT Print View

he was the first to use him as a (standard) prop in his argument, so i merely flipped it in a wholly, and i mean wholly, absurd manner. i'm extremely late to the repugnant game (drive forth by m. perry), and a minor offender, if at all.

(unless you are one of those people that simply can't abide by anyone saying anything about "the troops" unless it's 100% unquestioning support, and then you will interpret everything, however absurd, in whatever way you wish.)

Matthew Perry
(bigfoot2) - F

Locale: Oregon
Rude. on 07/02/2013 20:31:20 MDT Print View

"he was the first to use him as a (standard) prop in his argument"

---DaveT...someone merely commented that they hoped he was well and I, being a proud dad, posted some pics of him and said that he was doing well and thanked the person for asking. He was not used as a "prop". That said, I don't feel you have to take anything down. I have a thick enough skin it will just slide off. If that is how you feel, so be it. Like I said, just proves my point.

M

Edited by bigfoot2 on 07/02/2013 20:50:01 MDT.

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: props r' us on 07/02/2013 20:33:31 MDT Print View

I'm happy that the moderators give this forum a pretty long leash and that there are opportunities in Chaff for people to have these cathartic events. There were several comments made which were in my opinion out of line and by no means am I trying to paint myself as any kind of an angel. I sent PMs to others and I probably should have done the same with you instead of responding on this thread.

I'm not defending Matthew but I am defending his son. You are (presumably) a grown man so feel free to do what you feel you need to do but I'm respectfully asking you to keep his son off of this thread.

Take care either way.

Jennifer Mitol
(Jenmitol) - M

Locale: In my dreams....
I don't like chaff anymore... on 07/02/2013 20:51:59 MDT Print View

At first I thought it was funny. The OP was actually quite hilarious.

I tried to participate. I tried to be witty. I'm sure I offended people, but oh well...I dish I out and I can take it.

But yes, this got really mean and ugly and I don't want to play anymore. Back to the boring gear threads. Where has Max been? He needs to step in something again really soon....that was always fun.

Jennifer Mitol
(Jenmitol) - M

Locale: In my dreams....
Which water treatment should I take on the JMT? on 07/02/2013 20:55:59 MDT Print View

Which is the most convenient: aqua Mira or the sawyer squeeze? I'm torn.....

Matthew Perry
(bigfoot2) - F

Locale: Oregon
water on 07/02/2013 21:10:45 MDT Print View

For years it was Aquamira drops for me, but that Squeeze gravity filter I just made is sooooo convenient and fast.

M

PS--Jennifer...what do you use for your dog's bowls? I'm using Orikasso. Tried Cuben ones made by Zimmerbuilt, but they were too hard to clean and blew away when empty.

Edited by bigfoot2 on 07/02/2013 21:13:19 MDT.

Dave T
(DaveT) - F
prop it up. on 07/02/2013 21:14:31 MDT Print View

> He's doing well in Afghanistan... and is one of the reasons we are all able to have these nice "discussions".


This is the standard prop I mean ("he's defending your right to say what you want!"). I flipped in an absurd manner. Read what I wrote again. And I'd ask you to consider your terrible words spoken to others before finding hurt to yourself.

Matthew Perry
(bigfoot2) - F

Locale: Oregon
(just shaking my head in disbelief) on 07/02/2013 21:21:52 MDT Print View

"> He's doing well in Afghanistan... and is one of the reasons we are all able to have these nice "discussions".


This is the standard prop I mean ("he's defending your right to say what you want!"). I flipped in an absurd manner. Read what I wrote again. And I'd ask you to consider your terrible words spoken to others before finding hurt to yourself."

---Again...what I said was all TRUE. He IS one of the reasons we are all free to speak as we choose. Sadly, even you, DaveT. If not for his kind, we'd all be speaking Russian or German or...well, you get my point. I'm not exactly sure why you are so angry...it's just making you look silly at this point.

Now...drops or squeeze, DaveT? LOL


Matt

Edited by bigfoot2 on 07/02/2013 21:25:46 MDT.