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David Poston
(dgposton) - F

Locale: Texas / Colorado
Which pack liner bag? on 06/18/2013 12:29:37 MDT Print View

I read somewhere here that there is a particular brand of trash compactor bag that weighs less than 2 oz. I think the regular ones you get at the grocery store are around 2.2 oz. That's what Mike Clelland's book says anyway.

I would need a bag sized for a 45-50 L pack.

Jake D
(JakeDatc) - F

Locale: Bristol,RI
Re: Which pack liner bag? on 06/18/2013 12:51:19 MDT Print View

i got the Glad unscented trash compactor bags. i think 3-5 came in the box and fits my quilt and extra clothes with plenty of room to twist shut.

you don't need the full pack to be inside.. just the stuff that can't get wet. leave the cook stuff, tent, sleeping pad (depends on how your outer pack repels water) on top of the compactor bag.

Adam Rothermich
(aroth87) - F

Locale: Missouri Ozarks
Re: Which pack liner bag? on 06/18/2013 14:23:02 MDT Print View

I got my pack liners from MLD. Comes in a two pack, weigh 1.3 oz each, and fit my quilt and extra clothes which is all I'm interested in keeping dry. Plus they're clear which I like better than the black trash compactor bags I had been using. And they only cost $5.

Adam

Chad Poindexter
(Stick) - F

Locale: Wet & Humid Southeast....
LiteTrail NyloBarrier Pack Liner on 06/18/2013 18:09:32 MDT Print View

I have been using the LiteTrail NyloBarrier pack liners for quite a while now and have been happy with them. As others, they are 2 for $5, however, as of now they are on backorder until 6/25/13 (estimated arrival date). And at 1 oz, these are lighter than the pack liners than I have from both MLD & GG.

http://litetrail.com/shop/backpacks/litetrail-nylobarrier-packliner

James DeGraaf
(jdegraaf) - MLife

Locale: Bay Area
Re: LiteTrail NyloBarrier Pack Liner on 06/18/2013 18:43:16 MDT Print View

I have to second the Lite Trail NyloBarrier. It's big enough for what you want, I think. Great now I'm going to go compare it with a regular compactor bag.
Thanks,
James

Kronos Master of Fate
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: LiteTrail NyloBarrier Pack Liner on 06/18/2013 18:44:36 MDT Print View

+3

If you know someone who tents houses for termites they will have cases of these bags.

Chad Poindexter
(Stick) - F

Locale: Wet & Humid Southeast....
Re: Re: LiteTrail NyloBarrier Pack Liner on 06/18/2013 18:46:58 MDT Print View

Here are the listed specs of the LiteTrail pack liner:

Specifications

Weight: 1.0 oz (28.4 g)
Size: 20 wide X 36" tall (12.7" diameter as cylinder)
Tolerance: +/- 1/4" wide, +/- 1" tall
Safety: FDA Food Grade

David Poston
(dgposton) - F

Locale: Texas / Colorado
sizing on 06/18/2013 20:44:00 MDT Print View

Chad,

Thanks for the specs on the litetrail bag. My only concern would be if they are big enough for my needs. I will measure the Gossamer Gear bags and see how they compare.

Peter S
(prse) - MLife

Locale: Denmark
Note on 06/19/2013 07:28:08 MDT Print View

This is from LiteTrail's website:

"NOTE: Water resistant, not water proof. In high humidity or when exposed to direct contact with water over extended periods of time (~8 hours), this film could transmit a hint of moisture. This can be a good thing, because unlike a fully water proof material, NyloBarrier bags "breath" in terms of water vapor (not scent) and allow the contents to dry out on their own. In practice, most backpackers find these packliners are more than effective."

Question: Anybody had a problem with this liner when in prolonged rain?

Thanks!

Rex Sanders
(Rex) - M

Locale: Central California Coast
Nylofume sources; turkey bags, ostrich bags? on 06/19/2013 08:28:49 MDT Print View

You can buy 20 Nylofume bags (compares to NyloBarrier) for $25 here:
http://www.quantumtermite.com/termite-products-and-paperwork/nylofume-bags-20
the smallest quantity I could find with some quick searching.

I use turkey oven bags from the supermarket for my sleeping bag and sometimes a second one for clothing. About $1-$2 each. Much easier to find. Smaller than Nylofume bags.
http://www.reynoldskitchens.com/products/oven-bags/turkey-oven-bags/

Or maybe these bags, in a wider variety of sizes:
https://www.truelibertybags.com/?page=Products
Ostrich bags? Who knew?

-- Rex

Edited by Rex on 06/19/2013 08:29:26 MDT.

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Which pack liner bag? on 06/21/2013 23:31:54 MDT Print View

Finding unscented trash compactor bags can be a challenge and I found some at a Lowe's store today. They are sold as the style selections brand (formerly RedMax) item #: 202069, model #: LWSS18WC044W. They measure 25.5"x32" giving a 18 gallon/68 liter volume with 2.5mil thickness. The have extensions at top for tying the bag shut that could be trimmed.

Andy Jarman
(AndyJarman) - M

Locale: Edge of the World
No pack liner, no pack cover. on 06/22/2013 01:11:21 MDT Print View

I don't use a pack liner.

With my pack (a cuben fibre, roll top, top loader with no pockets) I prefer loading my pack with my kitchen in one dry bag, my bathroom/toilet in another and my wardrobe/bedroom in another. The dry bags have to be see through and cheap to replace.

I have ordered three types of lightweight dry bags ( or 'compression sacks')to trial. Two have ingenious valves on them so the zip-lock closure on them doesn't pop open when you compress the contents. The valves are simply modified seals in the base of the plastic bag (not added devices) so they create absolute minimum/zero additional weight.

Google 'Eagle Creek compression bags' for one (reinforced with nylon webbing)and 'global travel products compression storage bags' for the other (here in Australia). The third type is the aLocksac bag, these I have been using for the past six months. These are very tough and stretchy but don't have any valves on them - which I have to say hasn't been a problem.

All three types of bag profit from being stuffed with soft gear (clothing). The spongy nature of the clothing gives the bags a satisfying 'vacuum sealed' appearance and reassures you that they are air tight.

Using transparent lightweight dry bags does away with pack covers (cuben fibre doesn't absorb or hold water) and pack liners. I can swim with the pack towed behind me on the end of my whistle string when crossing rivers/canyoning. It also lets you compress everything separately, and find things easily, without having to unpack the whole back pack. I find this a boon when its raining.

The aLocksac bags have lasted three one week pretty tough expeditions so far. I've yet to try the others, I'll write up how I go with them later when they have had some use.

Marko Botsaris
(millonas) - F - MLife

Locale: Santa Cruz Mountains, CA
These on 06/22/2013 12:51:47 MDT Print View

wow, seems like a lot of separate threads on compactor bags in the last few weeks.

FYI these:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002BXRGQA/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

are the right size and unscented. This isn't a guess. If you happen to have Amazon Prime then free shipping as well.

cheers

Edited by millonas on 06/22/2013 12:54:14 MDT.

Peter S
(prse) - MLife

Locale: Denmark
Re: Note on 08/28/2013 00:40:35 MDT Print View

BUMP to my question above.