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Jeff Gerke
(mtnrunner) - M

Locale: Utah
Estimating distance with Hillmap on 06/16/2013 18:46:31 MDT Print View

When I plan routes using NG TOPO! I always add 10% to the distance I get with their route tool. However TOPO! has been discontinued and I am planning a trip in an area where I don't have TOPO!. Instead I am using Hillmap.com with mytopo.com maps. I'm guessing adding 10% to the distance measured with Hillmap.com route tool would yield similar results. Just want to make sure I am correct in this assumption. Anyone know if I am on the right track? Using the TOPO! route tool was a bit easier, kind of miss it.

Bill Law
(williamlaw) - M

Locale: SF Bay Area
Re: Estimating distance with Hillmap on 06/17/2013 10:15:16 MDT Print View

I just tried plotting a path using hillmap. It seems it would have a greater margin of error since it doesn't (?) support continuous paths. I found having to click each point tedious so I started spreading them out as far as possible.

I agree with about Topo route mapping being easier. I'm waiting for an application to replace it.

Two features I always wanted...
1 have the app be able to follow a trail (e.g., dashed line) automatically
2 be able to overlay another image (trail map) and trace that. This would require being able to stretch/shrink the image to align a couple of points with corresponding points on the topo map.

J J
(jraiderguy) - M

Locale: Puget Sound
Re: Re: Estimating distance with Hillmap on 06/17/2013 11:19:10 MDT Print View

Caltopo.com supports continuous path drawing. I like it more than hillmap in general, too.

Stretching an image to fit a topo is called "georeferencing an image" I believe. I have a bit of GIS software knowledge from school, and remember doing that. I haven't used it in a few years, but QGIS was a growing free GIS software back then which supported georeferencing images.

Jeff Gerke
(mtnrunner) - M

Locale: Utah
Measuring route with Hillmap on 06/22/2013 20:02:20 MDT Print View

I answered my own question this weekend. My son and I backpacked to a lake in the Uintas Friday afternoon. Before we went I measured the route using Hillmap and added 10% to that distance just like I do with TOPO!. Using my Garmin Forerunner I measured the route as we hiked in on Friday. The distance value I got with Hillmap and my gps where less than a tenth of a mile difference.

Bill Law
(williamlaw) - M

Locale: SF Bay Area
Re: Measuring route with Hillmap on 06/29/2013 09:05:01 MDT Print View

How many miles was that, Jeff? Straight lines vs switchbacks? Elevation changes?

I tried caltopo and couldn't figure out how to trace out continuous paths. Frustrating in general; I had to start over 4 or 5 times. Lost it before I could figure out how to save it. Went back to Topo!. Just have to figure out how to get that to run on my new Mac.

Jeff Gerke
(mtnrunner) - M

Locale: Utah
Re: Re: Measuring route with Hillmap on 06/29/2013 14:35:07 MDT Print View

The route was 8.3 miles. There was a few ups and downs of 300-400 ft elevation change and a climb at the end of about 600 ft of elevation gain. Nothing too dramatic. Not really any serious switchback sections.