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Arapiles .
(Arapiles) - M

Locale: Melbourne
Snow Peak Bacoo Sleeping bags on 06/15/2013 23:38:30 MDT Print View

(Apologies if this has already been posted, but a search showed nothing ...)

Snow Peak have introduced a line of sleeping bags in Japan, with 3 models:

http://www.snowpeak.co.jp/newproducts/bacoo/

Bacoo 200

Bacoo 200 - venting

- 90/10 800 FP down

- 20 denier fabrics

weights are 670 grams/830 grams/1120 grams, ratings for the three bags are +6C for the lightest one, 1C for the middle and -7C for the heaviest

the black fabric on the side and bottom of the bags is water resistant and the grey fabric on top is stated to be very breathable.

without doing a fill-weight comparison, they appear to be heavier than WM but they do have a few more features (pockets) which may add weight

Edited by Arapiles on 06/15/2013 23:40:28 MDT.

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: Snow Peak Bacoo Sleeping bags on 06/16/2013 17:50:06 MDT Print View

What are the weights and temperature ratings for us English speaking folks?

;-)

Rick M
(rmjapan) - F

Locale: London, UK
Re: Re: Snow Peak Bacoo Sleeping bags on 06/16/2013 19:12:43 MDT Print View

The total weights and comfort temp ratings are in the first post. Price ~US$250-350 at current FX.

I can add the 800FP (White DUCK down 90/10) fill weights: 6C-200g, 1C-350g, -7c-550g

Hence the model names, Bacoo200, Bacoo350, and Bacoo550.

The inner lining is a 20D nylon taffeta which is a really soft weave? used in kimono. (Montbell uses taffeta on several products too.)

Here is a video; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSzdJ8hoWC4&feature=player_detailpage

Edited by rmjapan on 06/16/2013 19:22:21 MDT.

Samuel C. Farrington
(scfhome) - M

Locale: Chocorua NH, USA
weights and temp ratings on 06/16/2013 20:48:16 MDT Print View

Rick, I think Nick means he wants conversions to ounces and degrees F.
For the computer challenged, recommend the pocket size Carpenter's Helper by R.S.Wood of Liberty, Maine, USA.

For grams to ounces multiply times .03527.
So 830 grams for the midsize = 29.27 ounces.

Guess carpenters don't convert temps much, but one degree C. (celsius or centigrade) = 33.8 degrees F (Fahrenheit). The fact that they rated it one degree C above freezing suggests that it probably won't keep most people warm at freezing.

The Montbell Spiral #3 is rated at 30 degrees F and weighs 20 oz. That and the super version have both been reviewed here. You might want to take a look.
I've had good luck with mine so far - no clumping or loss of loft, but not washed yet.

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: weights and temp ratings on 06/16/2013 22:18:28 MDT Print View

There was a smiley face in my post.

A Western Mountaineering Ultralight 6' 0" weighs 29 ounces and is rated at 20F.

The warmest Snow Peak is rated at 19.4F and weighs 39.5 ounces. I would guess it is probably much shorter than the WM.

Rick M
(rmjapan) - F

Locale: London, UK
Re: weights and temp ratings on 06/16/2013 22:54:52 MDT Print View

Samuel, I already have 2 Montbell #5 UL Down Huggers, a Super Spiral from the USA and a Super Stretch from Japan. Unfortunately, they were purchased prior to the Fall 2012 season when the USA models became EN rated. Spec-wise, they seem to be UNDERFILLED by 2-3 ounces of down compared to the latest EN-rated models. Moreover, even the current EN-rated #3 UL SSDH has ~1oz less down than this Bacoo350. Despite the underfill, they are comfy bags to sleep in though.

Obviously, what is making these Snowpeak bags seem heavy is the 20D fabrics, with the gray top being WPB/PU coated.

Edited by rmjapan on 06/16/2013 22:58:29 MDT.