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mark henley
(flash582) - F
SUL with a hammock gear list on 06/14/2013 19:25:30 MDT Print View

Thoughts?

10.5 Modified ION
1.5 Pack frame, sit pad, foot pad
13.8 JRB Stealth
10 IX underquilt
0.9 Dp bug net
0.1 Foil for esbit for fire backup
11.5 DIY 10 x 4.5 ft 1.6 oz hammock & goodies
1.9 food bag
1 Zing it x 40 ft + Cuben rock bag
1 Beer can pot & foil
0.5 Spoon
0.1 Ziplock?
0.1 Cuben ditty bag
0.9 Fire steel and mini bic
4 Wind shirt
0.3 Chafing/cotton
1 Aqua Mira
7.5 Poncho tarp & line
1.4 2 one l water bottles
1.8 Spare socks
2 .3 first aid and repair kit
1 Small headlamp
0.2 Toothbrush & Floss
0.5 2 tent stakes
0.3 Alcohol gel
0.5 Pack towel
4 Cell phone, cash, credit
0.3 Deet
1 Neck knife
0.2 Car key
4.9875 Total LBS
Consumables
4.5 3 days food
2.2 Water
0.0625 2 fuel tabs
0.125 TP
0.125 Medications
7.0125 Consumable weight
12 Total Weight

Edited by flash582 on 06/14/2013 19:29:34 MDT.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: SUL with a hammock gear list on 06/14/2013 19:40:06 MDT Print View

0.3 Chafing/cotton

What's that?

When and where are you planning on using this set up? What will you be wearing while underway?

mark henley
(flash582) - F
Hammock SUL on 06/14/2013 20:41:11 MDT Print View

Minimum temps of 45 degrees here in Texas ....

Chaffing is hydropel with some cotton balls

Wearing bug away shirt and zip offs, compression shorts, lightweight cap, smart wool socks, Nike trail runners. Also a bug away bandana ...

Edited by flash582 on 06/14/2013 20:46:51 MDT.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Hammock SUL on 06/14/2013 20:42:06 MDT Print View

Go.

Have you ever lit Esbit with your steel?

Edited by kthompson on 06/14/2013 20:43:19 MDT.

mark henley
(flash582) - F
Esbit and steel on 06/14/2013 20:49:53 MDT Print View

A few drops of alcohol gel helps that spark catch on the esbit. Once I had to resort to a bit of hydropel on a cotton ball to get it going with my steel.

mark henley
(flash582) - F
Oops on 06/14/2013 21:04:45 MDT Print View

Missed the stealth up weight ... It's 5.125 lbs ...... Darn!

todd harper
(funnymoney) - MLife

Locale: Sunshine State
Re: SUL with a hammock gear list on 06/15/2013 11:15:30 MDT Print View

Hi Mark,

Outstanding hammock list! Wow.

Is your IX UQ a 2 layer, 3/4 length? Just curious. If MYOG, any construction details are appreciated since I have a good bit of IX waiting....

Thanks,
Todd

mark henley
(flash582) - F
Been out of town on 07/04/2013 19:21:01 MDT Print View

Sorry for the delayed response

It's a clone of the baby orca, two layers and a torso heater (smaller middle layer with sewed in ribs.

The layers are all differentially cut.

If I were to make another one I would use this:

https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=23881

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: SUL with a hammock gear list on 07/04/2013 20:29:59 MDT Print View

Nice. How is the poncho for coverage? Do you rig it a-frame or asym, or ???

I have a Hennessy Cape which is as big as their standard asym tarp-- a couple ounces more than the poncho.

mark henley
(flash582) - F
Poncho tarp on a poncho on 07/05/2013 18:29:09 MDT Print View

I shortened the hammock to 9.5 ft with a 7' 5" ridge line. The lay is almost identical to the 10.5 ft length with a 83% ridge. The poncho has a 9.9 ft ridgeline when hung asym ..... So there's 15 inches on each end .... In the rain you just drop the poncho right to the hammock ridgeline .... Not all that different from my old Hennessy.

I thought seriously about the cape .... .... But I'm also considering a custom 6 x 9 Cuben poncho.

Edited by flash582 on 07/05/2013 18:33:43 MDT.

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Poncho tarp on a poncho on 07/05/2013 19:54:58 MDT Print View

"I thought seriously about the cape .... .... But I'm also considering a custom 6 x 9 Cuben poncho"

I've lusted for a Zpacks hammock tarp @ 6.5oz, but I need a $250 windfall to go with it :)

I've thought about a poncho with "wings" that fold under, giving nearly twice the width. The back could have some extra length too.

I have the XL cape which is 137" x 120", giving pretty good coverage @ 12oz. It would be great knocked off in Cuben. I picked up a Backpacker model Hennessy that makes a light combo with the cape. It's a bottom entry model, which is useable, but I don't care for it much--- I'm waiting until Winter to have 2QZQ add a zipper.

I use an undercover and the foam pad from the Hennessy SuperShelter along with a space blanket for the UQ. Your differential cut/layered IQ is a good idea. I have one undercover that is also a poncho, which works well.

I don't think I would fit well in your rig, but it *is* light.

mark henley
(flash582) - F
The hammock dark side on 07/06/2013 08:07:39 MDT Print View

My other hammock is a Hennessy ULBA .... I shortened the ridgeline on that one too for abetter lay .....

I'm 5'11" and 230 lbs, with really wide shoulders ..... You'd be surprised. I depart from the conventional theories that longer and wider is better, I don't care much for hammocks wider than 4.5 ft myself ..... More sag = flat lay is what works for me.

That zpacksTarp .... Awesome piece of kit! One of these days ....

Edited by flash582 on 07/06/2013 08:09:29 MDT.