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John Abela
(JohnAbela) - MLife

Locale: www.hikelighter.com
Re: Very unpleasant experience with Six Moon Design (SMD on 05/31/2013 16:57:29 MDT Print View

Ablabela is one of the most qualified reviewers online. He buys multiples to check consistency ! Tens of thousands of dollars a year get pumped into the industry by John. He is an amazing resource. He is a genuine SUL resource, and has put together tables of shelter data out of pocket. But yes, fanboy.


True. I admit it. I am a fanboy.

But let's just be clear here... I am a fanboy of almost *every* cottage industry company!

There are only three companies within the entire cottage industry that I have encountered over the last few years that I simply will not buy any gear from.

Do I stand up for the cottage companies out there? Heck yeah, and I have never made any claim against that. Do I take it to the excess sometimes? Yeah, I will totally admit to that too.

At the same time, I call BS when BS needs to be said.


Thanks for pointing out my truths and strengths GB, I appreciate the support.


(edit: woot, looks like I am lucky number for page 15!!!!)

Edited by JohnAbela on 05/31/2013 17:00:23 MDT.

Zorg Zumo
(BurnNotice) - F
Thanks for your dedication! on 05/31/2013 17:02:35 MDT Print View

martyr


It wouldn't have been possible without you!

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Which 3 on 05/31/2013 17:06:47 MDT Print View

John, I'm curious as to which 3 cottage companies you avoid.

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: Thanks for your dedication! on 05/31/2013 17:09:16 MDT Print View

Zorg, your dedication is also amazing. A custom meme! How avant-garde!

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Which 3 on 05/31/2013 17:09:55 MDT Print View

He only avoids the ones that don't offer him a discount.

John Abela
(JohnAbela) - MLife

Locale: www.hikelighter.com
Re: Which 3 on 05/31/2013 17:10:54 MDT Print View

John, I'm curious as to which 3 cottage companies you avoid.


Come on now Travis... this post is not about trash talking cottage companies!!

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: Re: Which 3 on 05/31/2013 17:15:45 MDT Print View

I honestly didn't mean it to trash talk them; just curious that's all. You have waaaaaayyyyy more experience with gear than I do, so it piqued my interest.

There's enough trash talking on this thread as it is...

Crap, did I just contribute to the TT'ing?

Edited by T.L. on 05/31/2013 17:17:14 MDT.

Fitz Travels
(fitztravels)
Trashing on 05/31/2013 17:16:47 MDT Print View

After 15 pages, anything is fair game

John Abela
(JohnAbela) - MLife

Locale: www.hikelighter.com
Re: Trashing on 05/31/2013 17:18:24 MDT Print View

LOL well said guys, well said.


comedy central



ps:

I would just like to thank the OP and all involved in this thread...

I have been wondering what in the hell it was going to take to get Ken to change back to his usual usersname and avatar!!

That alone we should all pat ourselves on the back for achieving as a group!

Edited by JohnAbela on 05/31/2013 17:30:43 MDT.

Jason Mahler
(jrmahler) - M

Locale: Michigan
So, what have we learned? on 05/31/2013 17:32:26 MDT Print View

1. Zorg is a tool
2. Yang is about the most patient person in the world. He started the thread, but isn't the one keeping in going, but still takes the brunt of the criticism
3. Both sides are likely right in a way, but the public will almost always side with the customer because everyone what's dealt with poor customer service at some point
4. Abela (aka Lorax) is a fanboy, but still does great reviews
5. Zorg is a tool
6. SMD site has more legal jargon than my business law class
7. This thread isn't close to finished because we are all OCD about more than just pack weight

Randy Nelson
(rlnunix) - F - M

Locale: Rockies
Re: So, what have we learned? on 05/31/2013 17:40:25 MDT Print View

"So, what have we learned?"

That the site that was once the most civil of any I'd been on is now becoming like the rest. :(

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: Re: So, what have we learned? on 05/31/2013 17:47:26 MDT Print View

Randy, as a whole,I think BPL still is a unique entity, but it is not immune to an errant thread.

That being said, I think everyone here owes everyone else a drink. Except me. Everyone owes me two drinks because I came up with the idea.

Randy Nelson
(rlnunix) - F - M

Locale: Rockies
Re: Re: Re: So, what have we learned? on 05/31/2013 17:55:43 MDT Print View

Sounds good Travis. Where do I send them?

OB talls

Ryan Smith
(ViolentGreen) - M

Locale: Southeast
Re: Re: So, what have we learned? on 05/31/2013 18:00:55 MDT Print View

Oh Randy, I promise you that BPL is still EXTREMELY civil compared to most other forums out there. We don't even have moderators here and 99.9999% of the threads here never even get close to this one. This thread looks like rainbows and lollipops compared to the majority of threads on the internet.

Ryan

Edited by ViolentGreen on 05/31/2013 18:05:07 MDT.

Zorg Zumo
(BurnNotice) - F
Re: So, what have we learned? on 05/31/2013 18:02:07 MDT Print View

sense

Randy Nelson
(rlnunix) - F - M

Locale: Rockies
Re: Re: So, what have we learned? on 05/31/2013 18:02:49 MDT Print View

"Oh Randy, I promise you that BPL is still EXTREMELY civil compared to most other forums out there."

No doubt Ryan, but it's sliding.

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: Re: Re: Re: So, what have we learned? on 05/31/2013 18:03:18 MDT Print View

Randy! Brilliant! I literally am drinking a Dales stovepipe!Vh

Eric Lundquist
(cobberman) - F - M

Locale: Dry side of the Eastern Sierra's
Re: Re: Trashing on 05/31/2013 18:05:28 MDT Print View

"I have been wondering what in the hell it was going to take to get Ken to change back to his usual usersname and avatar!! "

So true!

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: So, what have we learned? on 05/31/2013 18:07:02 MDT Print View

Don't tell me you are drinking alone again?

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: So, what have we learned? on 05/31/2013 18:09:33 MDT Print View

Guilty as charged.


Though, I need *something* to help me deal with the immense gravity of the BPL forums.