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Steve Meier
(smeier) - MLife

Locale: Midwest
Lightweight Mid Hiking Boot on 05/27/2013 15:06:33 MDT Print View

I am hiking Mt Kilimanjaro in September and the guide service is requiring boots, which I haven't worn hiking in years. Anyone know of a mid-hiking boot that is light, has a good tread, and doesn't have a Gore WP lining? Seems like every mid boot now has Gore in it--amazing the hold they have on the industry.

Edited by smeier on 05/27/2013 15:07:13 MDT.

Bily Ray
(rosyfinch) - M

Locale: the mountains
Kilimanjaro boot on 05/27/2013 15:15:25 MDT Print View

I believe part of the Kilimanjaro climb is on snow. NO?

If so, you may want to have a water proof boot.

I am not a fan of Gortex, but if you're going to be slogging up snow, it seems better for your feet to be soaked in warm sweat than ice water.

bill

M B
(livingontheroad) - M
boot on 05/27/2013 16:08:01 MDT Print View

Inov8 286 GTX. 10.2 oz in the standard size 9. Lighter than many trail runners.

Ok, it is a trail runner, but it looks like a boot. They even call it a boot.

Edited by livingontheroad on 05/27/2013 16:10:29 MDT.

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: Lightweight Mid Hiking Boot on 05/27/2013 16:13:23 MDT Print View

Yeah, they tried that on us in Nepal too. We took light boots for the snow but did most of the trip in 250 g joggers. We went much faster than the others who were wearing big boots all the time.

Do they want your money? Then they accept your joggers.
But yes, some GTX mids for the snow could be useful - carried by the porters.

Cheers

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Lightweight Mid Hiking Boot on 05/27/2013 16:28:30 MDT Print View

Kilimanjaro is almost exactly on the Equator, so there are no distinct summers or winters. You can get snowed upon there in every month, mostly because of its altitude. Yes, the glaciers are disappearing.

I was there one June, and there was a little bit of new snow, although it didn't amount to that much. Depending on your route, the trail can be very rocky in places, and the top of the Coca-Cola Route can be full of loose gravel and sand. Therefore, I think a mid-hiking boot would be an excellent choice, especially if it has an agressive tread.

I had taken a pair of taller boots and some mid-height boots since I didn't really know what the conditions would be like (we ascended the Arrow Glacier through the Western Breach). I wore the mids up to 16,000 feet, and I was thinking of shifting over to the taller boots for the rest of the ascent for warmth, if nothing else. But at the last minute, I stuck with mids, and that worked fine. I did have to kick steps in the snow for the porters, and I doubt that I could have done that with trail runners.

--B.G.--

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Lightweight Mid Hiking Boot on 05/27/2013 16:30:55 MDT Print View

Keen makes a couple non-waterproof mids. I want :) Montrail Namche boots have been discontinued, but you may find some out there. Light and breathable for a mid.

It may be a crampon use thing, so you may want to check up on that.

rOg w
(rOg_w) - F - M

Locale: rogwilmers.wordpress
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Edited by rOg_w on 06/17/2013 20:22:27 MDT.

Randy Martin
(randalmartin) - F

Locale: Colorado
Ahnu Elkridge on 05/27/2013 21:20:42 MDT Print View

go tryout a pair of Ahnu Elkridge boots at REI. They are eVent and breath incredibly well, are fairly light for boots and are extremely comfortable. I own a pair and love them. Even better, they are on sale now for $99!!!

http://www.rei.com/product/807296/ahnu-elkridge-mid-event-hiking-boots-mens

Edited by randalmartin on 05/27/2013 21:23:57 MDT.

Danton Rice
(drice) - M

Locale: Bozeman
Re: Lightweight mid hiking boot on 05/27/2013 21:38:05 MDT Print View

Check out the Zamberlan Crosser. GTX but are not clammy up to low 70's for me. Super comfortable and barely weigh more than my Ultra Raptors

J C
(Joomy) - M
Re: Re: Lightweight mid hiking boot on 05/28/2013 07:05:09 MDT Print View

Those Zamberlans look pretty nice. How stiff are they underfoot?

Edited by Joomy on 05/28/2013 07:06:10 MDT.

Steve Meier
(smeier) - MLife

Locale: Midwest
Salomon XA Pro 3D Mid GTX Ultra Trail Running Shoe on 05/28/2013 07:23:29 MDT Print View

Anyone have any experience with the Salomon XA Pro 3D Mid GTX Ultra Trail Running Shoe? It would pass as a mid hiking boot, although Salomon calls it a running shoe. 29 oz for the pair in size 9.

Danton Rice
(drice) - M

Locale: Bozeman
Re: Re: Lightweight mid hiking boot on 05/28/2013 08:25:45 MDT Print View

The Crosser has a nice rock plate but is not stiff. I tried them and the Asolo Reston's and picked the Crosser. Reston's were stiffer and had a weird rounded sole at the edges that felt unstable and a more pronounced rocker sole. You could probably run in the Crosser's if you really needed to and they are super stable in scree and rocks. I've got about 100 miles of sloppy spring time day hiking in them so far and they seem bomb proof without feeling stiff as boards.

Edited by drice on 05/28/2013 08:26:53 MDT.

Max Dilthey
(mdilthey) - M

Locale: MaxTheCyclist.com
Salomons on 05/28/2013 08:35:29 MDT Print View

I didn't like those Salomon Mids. I had a hard time keeping my heel locked in them with the nontraditional laces, and they have a whopping 14mm of heel drop, which felt like wearing heels.

I just picked up these:

http://www.backcountry.com/asolo-piuma-hiking-boot-mens

Asolo Piuma. I can't review them yet, but I picked them because they look durable and they have a mesh outer instead of a WPB layer. They're definitely lighter than traditional boots at 15oz.

adam mcconnell
(amac)
OBOZ on 05/28/2013 08:52:14 MDT Print View

I'm no where near experienced a hiker, but have recently researched a bunch of hiking shoe options. I looked hard at the Salomon. I've owned the low version of the shoe you're looking at and loved it. I've worn out La Sportiva's trail runners and they held up well. I would trust both to be durable and get the job done. They fit me like any other running shoe - small - so order big!

I recently purchased a pair of Oboz. Most of their hikers are WP, but at my early stage of wearing my new Firebrands, I feel they are a solid build. I went for a short 3-4 mile cross country-ish jog in them yesterday. These are not joggers, but felt very comfortable. The sole was more responsive than I expected. And at the end, my feet and socks were perfectly dry. It's worth checking them out.

Jeff Sims
(jeffreytsims) - MLife

Locale: So. Cal
Oboz vs Merrell on 05/28/2013 09:14:15 MDT Print View

I too have a pair of Oboz, I believe that they are the Yellowstone model and purchased them last year just before heading out on a trip after 3 weeks of healing on broken toes sustained trail running with my 5 fingers. I should say that I have been living in my 5 fingers for the past 4 years as my primary foot wear, so my body is well adapted to the more natural foot position. To Adam's point they are not the lightest, but they are very comfortable and seem to work very well providing great support. My only challenge with them would be having to adapt to the more traditional heal lift, compared to the flat minimalist footbed of most of my other shoes.

I did stop by REI during the sale last week and picked up a set of

http://www.merrell.com/US/en-US/Product.mvc.aspx/30884M/74564/Mens/Proterra-Mid-Sport

Merrell Proterra mids. They are much lighter and do have a "boot like" feel to them. however they use only a 4 mm drop in the footbed and are extremely comfy, lightweight (for a boot) and seem to grip the trail very well.

Link .
(annapurna) - MLife
Re: Oboz vs Merrell on 05/28/2013 09:42:22 MDT Print View

Here is a review of the Merrell Proterra at Toe Salad.

Eric Blumensaadt
(Danepacker) - MLife

Locale: Mojave Desert
Merrill Moab Mid Gore-Tex on 05/28/2013 12:16:14 MDT Print View

I have owned Merrill Moab Mid GTX boots for two years and they have held up well in both winter and wet summer treks. Very comfortable, especially when I replaced the good factory insoles with heat mouldable insoles.

These are "barely boots" but do cover your ankle bones. They are a true mid height.

Be sure to get one width wider than your street shoe width to allow for your foot to spread from all day walking witha load.

BTW, REI sells Merrill shoes and boots. Wider widths can be special ordered.

These mid bots also come in a NON GTX version.

Edited by Danepacker on 05/29/2013 12:20:08 MDT.

Bily Ray
(rosyfinch) - M

Locale: the mountains
not everyone's feet swell on 05/28/2013 12:26:13 MDT Print View

Not everyone's feet swell. even after backpacking all day my feet don't swell enough to have ever occurred to me to buy a wider shoe or boot.

bill

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: Lightweight Mid Hiking Boot on 05/28/2013 17:55:00 MDT Print View

"Anyone know of a mid-hiking boot that is light, has a good tread, and doesn't have a Gore WP lining?"

Yes, the Inov8 Roclite 370. It is no longer made, so I think we should start up a petition to Inov8 requesting that they reintroduce it. By far the best UL non GTX mid hiking shoe I have ever come across.

Rick M
(rmjapan) - F

Locale: Tokyo, Japan
Re: Re: Lightweight Mid Hiking Boot on 05/28/2013 19:24:48 MDT Print View

I have 2 pair of new-in-box Roclite 370's I can offer if anyone is interested.

Size: 26.5cm/EU 42.5/UK 8.5/US-Mens 9.5/US-Womens 11

Unfortunately, shipping from Japan might be on the high side, ~$20 per pair.

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: Re: Re: Lightweight Mid Hiking Boot on 05/28/2013 20:41:15 MDT Print View

DARN!!! If they were 10's, I'd take them off your hands, $20 shipping/pair and all.

JJ Willcoxon
(H2Oboy) - M

Locale: Midwest
Love Saloman's... on 05/28/2013 22:52:32 MDT Print View

I run in them (XA Pro 3D), hike/light pack in them(Synapse), and heavy pack in them(Cosmic 4D).

There's something about their last that makes them perfect for my feet. I would guess that, since some other brands that get high acclaim make my feet hurt, this means Saloman's aren't for everyone. I'd be sure to try a pair on, before you order them, if you're thinking about going that route.

Every Saloman I have used has fit me perfectly and I have never gotten a single blister from any of them. Light as heck too. I feel like I'm walking on air. They make a line called the Synapse that is a mid. It is my go to (in the non-gortex variety) for 3-season backpacking in the Rockies. It comes in either GTX or breathable.

They also make a lightweight full length (1lb 6ozs for a full length Gortex seems light to me anyway) called the Cosmic 4D GTX that has gotten mixed reviews. But it has been very successful as my long trip (heavy pack due to food weight) during the shoulder seasons. Great support and protection and a great heal and toebox.

J C
(Joomy) - M
Re: Re: Re: Lightweight mid hiking boot on 05/30/2013 03:03:25 MDT Print View

Dan,

Just tried those Crossers on and they are sweet! A bit more sensitive under foot than I expected, but super light (1.1kg for my bigfoot size 47s; I asked the cute staffer to weigh them and felt like a total BPL nerd) and super comfy. I'm pretty much sold, thanks for the heads up.

Edited by Joomy on 05/30/2013 09:15:16 MDT.

Danton Rice
(drice) - M

Locale: Bozeman
Re: Re: Re: Lightweight mid hiking boot on 05/30/2013 08:32:38 MDT Print View

Joomy - Glad you liked the Crosser. I thought it was a little flexy underfoot and put Superfeet green insoles in and now they are perfect. I particularly like the rounded toe box, the approach shoe style toe boxes that seems popular in these types of boots / shoes does not work for me.

I've tried every mid-height mentioned on this thread including a few others (Salewa Alp Trainers, etc.) and the the new Crosser is the best I've found even with the GTX.

Best non-GTX I've tried were the Zamberlan Trekkers. All leather but pretty light, mid cut and no Gore Tex. Super well made boot in the lighter range (looks like they are on sale on Backcountry.com).

Bily Ray
(rosyfinch) - M

Locale: the mountains
garmont on 05/30/2013 08:56:00 MDT Print View

the garment zenith mids are a nice boot. come in GTX and non-GTX... non-gtx on sale at backcountry.com

bill

Steve Meier
(smeier) - MLife

Locale: Midwest
Asolo's on 05/30/2013 14:39:30 MDT Print View

Thanks, everyone, for some great suggestions and feedback. I ordered the Solomon's and as someone said above, there is a significant heel drop that doesn't feel right, so those are going back. I also ordered the Asolo Piuma's and I've never put on a boot that felt more like a slipper. Light, very flexible, super comfortable, and also non-WP, which was my initial request for help. Now I just need to get some miles in them to see how they feel on the trail.

JJ Willcoxon
(H2Oboy) - M

Locale: Midwest
I've heard great things about them... on 05/30/2013 15:22:15 MDT Print View

Haven't tried Asolo's yet. But, from what I've read, if their last is right for your foot, you're a lucky man. Everything I read about them reflects a high quality, tough, durable product. If I ever go looking for something different, Asolo and La Sportiva are the two at the top of my list to try.

Congrats on finding your fit and have a great trip!

Derrick White
(miku) - MLife

Locale: Newfoundland & Labrador, Canada
+1 Solomon XA Pro 3D Mid GTX Ultra Trail Running Shoe on 05/30/2013 18:50:36 MDT Print View

I have the Solomons. Fit is great. Forms to foot and light. I don't have a lot of miles on them but they appear to be well made.

Derrick

Bill (L.Dog) Garlinghouse
(WJGhouse) - MLife

Locale: Western Michigan
Those new Asolo Piumas on 07/22/2013 07:32:50 MDT Print View

I ordered a pair of the Asolo Piumas (on discount from Oregon Mountain Community). I haven't found any independent reviews on them yet, but I had tried them on at an outfitter whilst hiking an AT section this last summer and found them to be a good fit for my foot.

I found them to be a departure from most of Asolo's designs. They are light for mid-height boots, at just over 15 ozs a pair. Asolo touts a more anatomical design with a "Natural Shape" footbed and sole. I found the toe box to be nice and wide, and the heel narrow enough to cradle mine perfectly. And, they do not have a waterproof lining.

Have only worn them around the house for a few hours, and so cannot give any real insights as to comfort or on-trail performance ...

Asolo's US Site:
http://www.asolo-usa.com/men/hiking-footwear-for-men/piuma-men-s-elephant-black-7.html

Asolo Piuma

Edited by WJGhouse on 07/22/2013 07:44:11 MDT.

Samuel C. Farrington
(scfhome) - M

Locale: Chocorua NH, USA
Mid for Kilmanjaro on 07/22/2013 13:30:51 MDT Print View

Have tried dozens of boots, and could not find good quality mids that fit and would keep my feet dry. So went to so-so quality with GTX liners - NB Country Walkers(gasp!).
Mostly leather with a fabric bellows tongue area that can be protected with gaiters, much less clammy then proprietary WPBs like Keene, and they fit my screwy feet. With the 5/32" avg. tread and so-so quality, they will wear out quickly and have to be replaced, but meet the basics needs for comfortable fit, dryness when the leather is kept treated and used with gaiters, and not too clammy. Had to sacrifice traction and durability, though.

You are lucky if you are one of those whose feet fit most boots. Then you have much better choices. But suggest avoiding the many ones that have fabric that extend far enough outside the tongue area to not be coverable by gaiters. Every mesh fabric boot I've tried that allows rain to pour directly on the outer, leaks in heavy rain no matter what WPB liner is used. Danner uses fabric that is heavier and not mesh, and works OK with regular DWR treatment, but the boots are heavy. So now that there are very light leather boots, I've gone back to leather.

Charles P
(mediauras)

Locale: Terra
Re: Those new Asolo Piumas on 07/24/2013 12:39:09 MDT Print View

I've been eying the Piumas all summer. How is the fit/ sizing? Pretty much true to size? I may order a pair this week. Thx.