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Jason Elsworth
(jephoto) - M

Locale: New Zealand
HMG Mid on 05/17/2013 16:28:38 MDT Print View

Has anyone seen this? HMG Mid

http://tinyurl.com/agv9pfl

Edited by jephoto on 05/17/2013 16:53:08 MDT.

Chris W
(simplespirit) - MLife

Locale: .
Re: HMG Mid on 05/17/2013 17:27:16 MDT Print View

They've been working on it for at least a year. Not available for purchase as of yet.

Jason Elsworth
(jephoto) - M

Locale: New Zealand
HMG Mid on 05/17/2013 18:53:59 MDT Print View

Thanks Chris. I had heard rumours but this was the first time I had seen a pic.

Edited by jephoto on 05/17/2013 19:06:31 MDT.

Clayton Mauritzen
(GlacierRambler) - F - M

Locale: NW Montana
Re: HMG Mid on 05/17/2013 22:27:11 MDT Print View

They posted a video on their Facebook page a little while back of the AMW Ski Classic, and there was one a few of the shots. Presumably someone like Luc Mehl had a prototype for testing.

Stevie Patrick
(XstevieX)

Locale: Adirondacks
Re: HMG Mid on 05/18/2013 14:04:43 MDT Print View

I just got back from Trail Days and they had a two-person mid and a 4-person mid set up. They look awesome, I didn't get any specs on dimensions, but I believe they said the two-person came in at just over a pound.

Mike St.Pierre (HMG)
(HyperliteMountainGear) - M

Locale: Maine
The HMG UltaMid is available! on 05/24/2013 16:25:41 MDT Print View

HMG is pleased to announce that after more than a year of design and testing the UltaMids ARE available now in 2-man and 4-man sizes. These cuben fiber mids are not yet on our site but can be ordered by emailing us directly at info@hyperlitemountaingear.com or calling us at 1-800-464-9208. Here are the specs:

2-Man UltaMid, $650
1.04lbs / 16.6oz
83"W x 107"L x 64"H

4-Man UltaMid, $800
1.3llbs / 20.8oz
111"W x 111"L x 75"H

The UltaMids are available with an optional bug net skirt for an additional $50.

Each of the UltaMids is constructed of single wall Cuben Fiber and has been tested and proven for four-season use.

HMG UltaMid

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: The HMG UltaMid is available! on 05/24/2013 16:31:02 MDT Print View

What thickness cuben fiber are you using?

Also, since this is nearly 2' wider than a Duomid (unless my math is bad), can I assume this would be more difficult to set up in an inverted V pole setup than the Duomid?

One more question, I assume this is bonded-no seam sealing necessary?

Edited by idester on 05/24/2013 16:42:06 MDT.

Edward Jursek
(nedjursek@gmail.com) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
HMG Mid on 05/24/2013 16:53:14 MDT Print View

They managed to bring their Mid in at only 2 ounces heavier and $235 more then the MLD DuoMid! Or the Locus Gear Khufu, to which it bears an eerie resemblance, if only I could convert Yen to Dollars in my head.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: HMG Mid on 05/24/2013 17:14:00 MDT Print View

Well the 2 person version is quite large! What is the difference in cuben weight?

Ryan Smith
(ViolentGreen) - F

Locale: Southeast
Re: Re: HMG Mid on 05/24/2013 18:23:34 MDT Print View

Yowza! $650 is a lot of dough.

Ryan

Rex Sanders
(Rex) - M

Locale: Central California Coast
Re: Locus Gear Khufu - converting yen on 05/24/2013 18:31:36 MDT Print View

Google is your friend:
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Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: HMG Mid on 05/24/2013 18:41:42 MDT Print View

Lets see some pictures with people and gear actually using them.

Need a sense of scale.

Richard R
(alaskaoneday) - MLife

Locale: Northern CA
Inverted 'V' on 05/24/2013 18:54:16 MDT Print View

Doug, I think the 64" height might make it even harder to use the inverted v pole set up as the Duomid height is 54"

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Inverted 'V' on 05/24/2013 18:57:27 MDT Print View

"I think the 64" height might make it even harder to use the inverted v pole set up as the Duomid height is 54""

Richard, you're right, I missed that. This new mid is pretty darned big, and yet only 2 oz. heavier than a cuben Duomid. I assume they're using pretty lightweight cuben. Will be nice when Mike puts it up on the HMG site with a bit more info.

Jason Elsworth
(jephoto) - M

Locale: New Zealand
HMG Mid on 05/24/2013 22:14:18 MDT Print View

It seems to me you are also going to need a big pole extender at that height. Probably best to lash two poles together or use a proper tent pole.

Joel Benford
(Morte66) - F - M

Locale: Surrey flatlands, England
Re: Inverted 'V' on 05/25/2013 02:36:07 MDT Print View

According to my trigonometry (abandon all hope ye who enter here): on the 2p, if you set the poles about 5 inches in from the base of the walls on the shorter span, they need to be about 73 inches long.

75 inches if they're an inch from the fabric base to get more floor space. That's assuming the panel tie outs lift the fabric off despite the curve -- I'm not sure if putting that much tension on panel centres (instead of reinforced seams) is a good idea.

Edited by Morte66 on 05/25/2013 02:51:09 MDT.

Charles Tufankjian
(ctufankjian)

Locale: New Hampshire
Mid on 05/25/2013 05:45:59 MDT Print View

Right on Mike, I've been waiting for this to happen!

Richard R
(alaskaoneday) - MLife

Locale: Northern CA
HMG Mid on 05/28/2013 09:50:54 MDT Print View

Well, the trigger has been pulled on a 2 man UltaMid. I'll report back after I get my hands on it.

Derrick White
(miku) - MLife

Locale: Newfoundland & Labrador, Canada
CF8 Cuben? on 05/28/2013 10:34:25 MDT Print View

Since HMG uses CF8 Cuben on all other tent walls, I expect that is what this tent will use. CF8 is 0.74 oz\yd.

Derrick

Richard R
(alaskaoneday) - MLife

Locale: Northern CA
Cuben on 05/28/2013 11:03:06 MDT Print View

According to an email I got from Mike this morning it is .78 oz/sq/yd material and a 1.1oz/sq/yd material for all the reinforcements.

Derrick White
(miku) - MLife

Locale: Newfoundland & Labrador, Canada
Center Pole on 05/28/2013 11:29:01 MDT Print View

Richard,

Is HMG including a trekking pole extender, selling a custom center pole or recommending tying 2 poles together?

The Ultamid 2 tent slots nicely in with existing options size-wise:

HMG Ultamid 2 107 x 83 x 64H
MLD Duomid 95 x 60 x 54H
MLD Supermid 107 x 107 x 69H
HMG Ultamid 4 111 x 111 x 75H

Its pricey, but I expect the cuben tent market has tolerance for it!

Derrick

Richard R
(alaskaoneday) - MLife

Locale: Northern CA
Center Pole on 05/28/2013 12:03:47 MDT Print View

I actually didn't even ask about it as I have a Luxurylite hiking staff that I use that will work perfect with it. I'll check with Mike at HMG to see what they are recommending.

Mike St.Pierre (HMG)
(HyperliteMountainGear) - M

Locale: Maine
The HMG UltaMid is available! on 05/28/2013 13:12:19 MDT Print View

Here's a little more information on our new UltaMid that might help in comparisons to mids from other manufacturers:

-The HMG UltaMid is constructed using CT2E.08 Cuben Fiber which weighs 0.78oz per square yard.

-The HMG UltaMid has fully bonded seams. Its waterproof right out of the box -- no seam sealing necessary.

-The HMG UltaMid includes all guy lines needed for set up (stakes are not included).

-The HMG UltaMid features a peak cone reinforced with a plastic stiffener for maximum durability and to prevent deformation when setting up using irregularly shaped trekking poles, sticks or even skis.

Here's a pic of the UltaMid in the field:HMG UltaMid in the Field

Edited by HyperliteMountainGear on 05/28/2013 20:44:12 MDT.

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: The HMG UltaMid is available! on 05/28/2013 13:41:28 MDT Print View

It's not on your website

Derrick White
(miku) - MLife

Locale: Newfoundland & Labrador, Canada
Pulled the Trigger on Ultamid 4 on 06/04/2013 15:09:36 MDT Print View

After extensive Q&A with Mike of HMG I pulled the trigger and ordered an Ultamid 4 today.

Will report with images once I get it.

Derrick

Aaron Croft
(aaronufl) - M

Locale: Alaska
Re: Pulled the Trigger on Ultamid 4 on 06/04/2013 20:07:51 MDT Print View

Anyone willing to loan me 650 bucks?

Richard R
(alaskaoneday) - MLife

Locale: Northern CA
HMG Mid on 06/04/2013 20:19:30 MDT Print View

My UltaMid 2 shipped today and should be in my hands on Thursday.

Max Neale
(maximumdragonfly) - M
Way larger than the DuoMid on 06/05/2013 20:27:03 MDT Print View

Several Seattle-based people and myself have been testing the 2p for OGL. The most significant difference between this and other mids is size: the UltraLid is much larger than the DuoMid. It's a comfortable 2p shelter rather than a mostly for solo use mid. The small features could be improved, but pale in importance when compared to the increased size and comfort.a