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Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Foster can for use with StarLyte burners on 04/25/2013 19:26:03 MDT Print View

I made 4 Foster cans for use with the StarLyte burner when placed under a Caldera-Keg system. No shim is needed. This photo shows the new can on the right. The supporting ridgeline has been relocated 3/4" higher up on the can. The can will then be 3/4" lower inside the cone for more heat absorbtion.

 photo FosterCaldera001_zps20fc9841.jpg

The new can is offered only to BPL viewers. It can not be seen by others viewing my stove store site. You have to use this link to see the sale page. I made 4 of these today along with more of the regular cans for the Cone.

The link:

http://www.woodgaz-stove.com/foster-for-starlyte.php

Packman Pete
(packmanpete) - MLife

Locale: Rainy Portland
Very Interesting... on 04/25/2013 21:41:31 MDT Print View

Well, that's looking good! I do have some questions. Does it come with a lid? I normally use the ridge to help me measure 2 cups in the keg. Is there some type of 'marker' on this design to help me gauge the 2 cup volume? Do you have any pics of a caldera cone rolled up in this can-I'm curious how this would pack with a starlyte stove, the cone, the lid, and possibly a fuel bottle. Thanks!

I appreciate all the help on my previous dilemma. You are a super star in my book.

Myla Fay
(swimming) - F
starlyte versus cat can stove? on 04/27/2013 06:03:26 MDT Print View

Do people tend to prefer the starlyte burner to the alcohol stove provided with caldera keg system? What is the difference?

Link .
(annapurna) - MLife
Re: starlyte versus cat can stove? on 04/27/2013 08:48:28 MDT Print View

M fay you can read plenty on this thread and this one .

Edited by annapurna on 04/27/2013 09:06:56 MDT.

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: Very Interesting... on 04/29/2013 18:04:39 MDT Print View

Packman, I'll get you a link to a video that shows the cone being packed into it.

The StarLyte burner is becoming very popular as an efficient replacement for the 12-10 stove. Reasons: More compact. Fuel won't spill out and is as efficient if not more so.

S Long
(Izeloz) - M

Locale: Wasatch
Re: Foster can for use with StarLyte burners on 04/29/2013 18:16:47 MDT Print View

Are these flat bottom cans? If not, would the flat bottom cans be more efficient? I currently have a regular caldera cone with one of your original Fosters pots. The ridgeline was a little small for good support so I had to enlarge it slightly. Are these ridgelines now a good support for cone use? I am interested in the Starlyte option and was wondering what the lightest 2-cup capacity setup you have available is. Thanks for any feedback.

William Chilton
(WilliamC3) - MLife

Locale: Antakya
Re: Re: Foster can for use with StarLyte burners on 04/30/2013 00:56:39 MDT Print View

Izeloz, in my experience the flat bottom cans aren't convenient for use with the Caldera Cone as the bottom is too wide to fit through the top opening in the cone easily. You can work around it by opening the cone slightly, but it isn't convenient.
I would expect the round bottom to be more efficient since it is thinner and has a greater surface area then the flat bottom. I have tested the two cans against each other (not in the Caldera set up, though) and my round bottom can was more efficient. It wasn't necessarily a fair test, however, as my round bottom can has seen more use and is somewhat blackened.
In any case, the difference in efficiency was very small and wouldn't affect my choice of can. I'd get whichever one is more suitable for you, which basically comes down to the type of pot support you use, in my opinion.
BTW, I've had no problem with the ridgeline on my can being too small in the3 Caldera Cone. Maybe you were unlucky?

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: Re: Foster can for use with StarLyte burners on 04/30/2013 21:41:26 MDT Print View

S Long, I made some aluminum flat bottom pots today. They definitely should fit in the most efficient category. The supporting ridgeline is placed so the pot sits 2.5" from the ground. That dimension is reportedly an ideal distance when using the StarLyte burner.

Tomorrow I'll make a video showing how easy it is for me to insert a flat bottom Foster's into my Keg_Cone.

The Foster can with lid weighs 24 grams.

The StarLyte burner weighs 13 grams

2 cups of water comes up to the supporting ridgeline for easy measuring of water. Plenty of headroom left over so water will not boil over.

This is the lightest 2 cup capacity setup that I have for the Caldera Cone.


(the can will have addition fine line ridgelines below the major supporting ridge)
 photo StarveRock_zps50953507.jpg

Edited by zelph on 04/30/2013 21:45:53 MDT.

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: Re: Re: Foster can for use with StarLyte burners on 05/01/2013 16:14:19 MDT Print View

Here is a photobucket video showing how easy it is to insert a flat bottom foster's pot into my Caldera Cone. It also shows how I remove it.

Ask me questions:-)

Click on it to view
 video CalderaFosterStarLyte_zpscb2b269b.mp4

Edited by zelph on 05/01/2013 16:14:54 MDT.

S Long
(Izeloz) - M

Locale: Wasatch
Re: Foster can for use with StarLyte burners on 05/02/2013 19:15:00 MDT Print View

All I have to say is, where do I sign up? I already have the cone, but I need to modified starlyte and one of those cans.

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: Re: Foster can for use with StarLyte burners on 05/02/2013 19:52:29 MDT Print View

I have 4 of them available and will make a sale page at zelphs-stoveworks tomorrow. I'll post a link to it when the page is up. I have not done any test burns with the system yet but I'm sure the results will be under a 1/2 ounce of fuel for 2 cups at 70 degree starting temperature for the water. The flat aluminum bottom and short height of the pot and insulated lid and Modified StarLyte is going to break records. I'm totally involved in spring cleaning and house remodeling so have patience :-) Thanks for your interest S Long

Edited by zelph on 05/03/2013 14:49:00 MDT.

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: Re: Re: Foster can for use with StarLyte burners on 05/03/2013 15:05:37 MDT Print View

"The supporting ridgeline is placed so the pot sits 2.5" from the ground. That dimension is reportedly an ideal distance when using the StarLyte burner."

I did some testing of that dimension and I'm not happy with it. Not happy at all. I'm using denatured alcohol and I'm getting too much soot. I get a 2 cup boil with 1/2 ounce but too much soot.

I did tests with the regular 2 cup foster can with the StarLyte burner shimmed up with another StarLyte burner and it works great. 3 tests all boiled 2 cups of 70 degree water with 1/2 ounce denatured. Boils occured at around 7.5 min and boil continued for approx 1 min and flame out was after about another 1/2 min.

Another thing I didn't like about the shorter version pot is not enough can sticking out above the cone so I could use a silicone pot grabber to lift the can/cone up and pour the water out. There are drawbacks to trying to go too light ;-)

The 1 gram pot lid did not work out well enough for me so that idea is scrapped......................Bummer!!!!! I did come up with an alternate aluminum lid. I'll be using the new design on all pots. It weighs 4 grams.

Edited by zelph on 05/03/2013 15:08:20 MDT.