Subscribe Contribute Advertise Facebook Twitter Instagram Forums Newsletter
Frankenstein Cookkit Returns: New Lid, New Windscreen, More Better Testing
Display Avatars Sort By:
Daniel Fish
(daniel@fishfamilypdx.com)

Locale: PDX
... on 04/16/2013 20:13:41 MDT Print View

...

Edited by daniel@fishfamilypdx.com on 06/09/2013 01:26:54 MDT.

Daniel Fish
(daniel@fishfamilypdx.com)

Locale: PDX
... on 04/16/2013 21:31:56 MDT Print View

...

Edited by daniel@fishfamilypdx.com on 06/09/2013 01:27:25 MDT.

Daniel Fish
(daniel@fishfamilypdx.com)

Locale: PDX
... on 04/17/2013 00:06:18 MDT Print View

...

Edited by daniel@fishfamilypdx.com on 06/09/2013 01:27:57 MDT.

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: itemized weights / possible functional problems / weight penalties on 04/17/2013 08:05:32 MDT Print View

good experiment, looking forward to results

Daniel Fish
(daniel@fishfamilypdx.com)

Locale: PDX
... on 04/17/2013 12:37:27 MDT Print View

...

Edited by daniel@fishfamilypdx.com on 06/09/2013 01:34:02 MDT.

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: Test Procedure details on 04/17/2013 13:45:23 MDT Print View

After 2 trials for each of 2 cases you start getting idea whether the difference between the 2 cases is greater than the trial to trial variation. If there's no difference you might want to re-think your 2 cases. If there's a large difference you may decide you've done enough trials to be statistically significant.

If it takes 12 trials of each to be statistically significant, then there isn't enough difference between the 2 cases to be important.

Nick Larsen
(stingray4540) - F

Locale: South Bay
Re: Frankenstein Cook kit Returns: on 04/17/2013 14:19:03 MDT Print View

How tall and narrow do you want to go?

I think, like your short wide pot, this has already been achieved by the caldera GVP(foster's pot). My kit weighs less than 3oz and boils 16oz using less than one tab, so I think it safe to assume I could get 20oz on one tab.

Seems like you are going through a lot of trouble to find a system that will end up being heavier than what is currently available.

Daniel Fish
(daniel@fishfamilypdx.com)

Locale: PDX
... on 04/17/2013 16:30:54 MDT Print View

...

Edited by daniel@fishfamilypdx.com on 06/09/2013 01:35:03 MDT.

Daniel Fish
(daniel@fishfamilypdx.com)

Locale: PDX
... on 04/17/2013 16:40:40 MDT Print View

...

Edited by daniel@fishfamilypdx.com on 06/09/2013 09:21:42 MDT.

Daniel Fish
(daniel@fishfamilypdx.com)

Locale: PDX
... on 04/17/2013 16:45:50 MDT Print View

...

Edited by daniel@fishfamilypdx.com on 06/09/2013 09:21:12 MDT.

Daniel Fish
(daniel@fishfamilypdx.com)

Locale: PDX
... on 04/17/2013 17:01:19 MDT Print View

...

Edited by daniel@fishfamilypdx.com on 06/09/2013 09:20:26 MDT.

Daniel Fish
(daniel@fishfamilypdx.com)

Locale: PDX
... on 04/17/2013 18:24:32 MDT Print View

...

Edited by daniel@fishfamilypdx.com on 06/09/2013 09:19:04 MDT.

Nick Larsen
(stingray4540) - F

Locale: South Bay
Re: Denied! on 04/18/2013 05:35:53 MDT Print View

Haha, bummer about them being out of stock.

Glad you are still continuing with the testing, as it is interesting.

For what it's worth, if you ever do decide to check out the GVP, here is a thread I created about my rig. It's much lighter than the stock offering, but if you want to boil 20oz. at once, I would keep the full length fosters instead of doing what I did.

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?bo=watch&forum_thread_id=61204

P.S. In that thread, two other people posted kits that might interest you as well.

Drew Jay
(drewjh) - F

Locale: Central Coast
3 cups 1 tab on 04/18/2013 06:08:40 MDT Print View

Daniel, you might try duplicating my Ruta Locura setup:

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=75650

It boiled three cups of water using a 1/2oz esbit tab with fuel left over. I could send you a copy of the paper pattern if you would like.

Daniel Fish
(daniel@fishfamilypdx.com)

Locale: PDX
... on 04/18/2013 10:44:09 MDT Print View

...

Edited by daniel@fishfamilypdx.com on 06/09/2013 01:39:49 MDT.

Daniel Fish
(daniel@fishfamilypdx.com)

Locale: PDX
... on 04/19/2013 09:06:47 MDT Print View

...

Edited by daniel@fishfamilypdx.com on 06/09/2013 01:37:00 MDT.

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: Initial Test Results on 04/19/2013 11:05:20 MDT Print View

How hot did the water get in the never boiled cases?

What are the units of time to boil, seconds?

Why did trial 6 take shorter time, but burned 2 more g of fuel, seems like that would take longer?

The two Ti wing cases were consistent, that's good

Ti wing 12 g of fuel, the other 2 required 14 g, seems like maybe it works good

In the other 2 cases, as the last 2 g of fuel burned, it must burn very slowly and maybe the pot of water looses heat as fast as it gains it, so maybe the fact that it took 2 more g of fuel isn't that significant?

Daniel Fish
(daniel@fishfamilypdx.com)

Locale: PDX
... on 04/19/2013 11:52:43 MDT Print View

...

Edited by daniel@fishfamilypdx.com on 06/09/2013 01:34:32 MDT.

Daniel Fish
(daniel@fishfamilypdx.com)

Locale: PDX
... on 04/19/2013 12:34:29 MDT Print View

...

Edited by daniel@fishfamilypdx.com on 06/09/2013 01:33:32 MDT.

Daniel Fish
(daniel@fishfamilypdx.com)

Locale: PDX
... on 04/20/2013 10:02:55 MDT Print View

...

Edited by daniel@fishfamilypdx.com on 06/09/2013 01:26:16 MDT.