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Greg Pehrson
(GregPehrson) - MLife

Locale: playa del caballo blanco
MYO Chouinard Expedition Sewing Kit, 0.9 oz and under $10 on 04/15/2013 15:09:47 MDT Print View

A while back I saw this thread about recreating the Chouinard Expedition Sewing Kit, a pretty cool piece of kit long out of production, and was interested to try it. Ken’s link takes you to a webpage where a number of different attempts to recreate the kit are described, and the “winner” is Russell Ijams, whose webpage gives pretty detailed instructions including which pin vise he selected from several he tested (you can find it on Amazon here (*see below), and reading the reviews you will see mention of the Chouinard Kit and the same photos that are on Russell’s website. Although it says stock is limited, click on the “3 new from $7.50” hyperlink. I purchased from Hobby Tool Supply, the second option, and got the vise exactly as described). I noticed that not long after Ken posted the link, that particular pin vise jumped from $2 to $7.50! Maybe a coincidence but maybe a bunch of people suddenly started ordering it for this project.

So obviously this is not my idea, but I just wanted to (1) draw attention to how well this works and how easy it is to make so as to (2) hopefully inspire more folks to try it and (3) share a little bit of some extra details I found through searching to make the process a little quicker. Used Chouinard kits, on the rare occasions they show up, are selling for over $100 on eBay. I’m perfectly happy with my under-$10, all-metal (original was plastic) but still lightweight MYOG version.

All I did upon receiving the pin vise was saw off the 3/32” post on the back of it. Unlike Russell’s experience, for me the post did not fall out in the process of cutting, so I used a file from an old Leatherman to smooth the rough edges from the cut flush with the rest of the end piece.

I did a bit of searching to find more details on the specifics of the kit. Chouinard used a size 16 sewing needle, which I found among the spares in my sewing machine box. The original kit used a 3-inch-long cotter pin, and I’ve not been able to locate the same size anywhere. However, 2.5-inch (3/32” diameter) cotter pins were easily found at the Home Depot for $0.60 for 5, and they seem fine for my size hands. As with the original kit, since the cotter pin shape is similar, it serves double purpose as the T-bar of the stitcher and a tool to quickly rethread pulled drawstrings, a not-uncommon field repair need.

The instructions from the original kit can be found on Google Images, but I found an instructional video on YouTube on how to use the Speedy Stitcher (the Chouinard kit’s heavier grandpa) more helpful. Since the Chouinard kit doesn’t have the thread anchor the Speedy Stitcher does, you just have to hold the thread end with your thumb while stitching.

I decided to leave out some elements of the original kit: the buttons (few if any buttons on my hiking clothes) and multicolored thread from what looks like a hotel “freebie” sewing kit (I am fine to use either the dental floss or black poly thread for all repairs), and the needle threader (I’ve found them to break very easily—though they are very helpful when you have cold hands). Instead of wrapping the thread around a card, I used a thin piece of plastic. But there is a really nice aesthetic to the original kit’s leather pouch that I wanted to recreate.

Ultimately, this is what I found to work the best. It’s a coin purse from Guatemala, stamped with the name of the city where I used to live. I feel like I’ve seen similar keyring coin purses in airport gift shops all over the US, so you don’t need to go to Guatemala to pick one of these up. Now, the whole kit in the picture weighs 0.9 oz, and 0.4 of that is the pouch alone. I’m sure there are lighter options, but the aesthetic of it, the toughness of the leather for protecting the needles (and protecting me from the needles!) and the memories it calls forth are worth those 0.4 oz to me.

full kit

At the time of writing, the only sewing I’ve done with it has been replacing Velcro on a pair of thrift-store Keens I found for my daughter's summer adventures. It pushed easily through the webbing and the sandal body. The whole kit fits into the coin pocket on my jeans and I find that more often than not, I leave the house with it on me.sewing shoes

EDIT: Can't embed the Amazon link for some reason...it is http://www.amazon.com/Quick-Chuck-Keyless-Drill-Electric/dp/B000RB7BN6/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1365907521&sr=8-7&keywords=3+quick+chuck+keyless+drill+bit

Edited by GregPehrson on 04/15/2013 15:16:53 MDT.

Jim Colten
(jcolten) - M

Locale: MN
Re: MYO Chouinard Expedition Sewing Kit, 0.9 oz and under $10 on 04/15/2013 18:26:06 MDT Print View

Can't embed the Amazon link for some reason

Happens from time to time here. It usually works to create a bit.ly shortened URL and imbed that ... as seen here bit.ly URL to pin vise

Edited by jcolten on 04/15/2013 18:39:16 MDT.

Sam Haraldson
(sharalds) - MLife

Locale: Gallatin Range
MYO Chouinard Expedition Sewing Kit, 0.9 oz and under $10 on 04/24/2013 13:34:44 MDT Print View

I started acquiring the parts to build one of these a few months ago and at the same time decided to create an updated version of the instruction sheet that was included with Yvon's original kit. You can download it from my site here:

chouinard_sewing_kit_instructions.pdf

There seems to be a rendering error on the file I have on my site so PM me with your email if you'd like me to send you it and perhaps there won't be that issue.

Edited by sharalds on 04/24/2013 13:36:50 MDT.

Stephen Hoefler
(TalusTerrapin) - F - MLife

Locale: Happily wandering
Re: MYO Chouinard Expedition Sewing Kit, 0.9 oz and under $10 on 04/24/2013 14:42:26 MDT Print View

This is exactly what I've been looking for! I made the awl a long time ago but have always wanted some instructions to go along with it. Thank you for posting this :D

Sam Haraldson
(sharalds) - MLife

Locale: Gallatin Range
MYO Chouinard Expedition Sewing Kit, 0.9 oz and under $10 on 04/24/2013 14:45:46 MDT Print View

It's a very cool kit. Nice to see the community come together and open-source it.

Curtis Ware
(ware_curtis) - MLife

Locale: Midwest
Chouinard Expedition Sewing Kit on 05/31/2013 11:50:25 MDT Print View

Sam thanks for the email.

Just read an article (May 2013 INC) where Yvonne Chouinard mention they are going to sell a sewing kit. An email from Patagonia confirmed, but no deails or release date. Hope it is a similar kit!

Sam Haraldson
(sharalds) - MLife

Locale: Gallatin Range
MYO Chouinard Expedition Sewing Kit, 0.9 oz and under $10 on 05/31/2013 12:07:34 MDT Print View

You're welcome, Curtis. And thanks for sharing the news from Patagonia.

Rex Sanders
(Rex) - M

Locale: Central California Coast
Re: Chouinard Expedition Sewing Kit on 05/31/2013 13:35:17 MDT Print View

"Just read an article (May 2013 INC) where Yvonne Chouinard mention they are going to sell a sewing kit."

Here's the article, it's pretty interesting:
http://www.inc.com/magazine/201303/liz-welch/the-way-i-work-yvon-chouinard-patagonia.html

Yvon is like a MYOG tinkerer, who happens to have a $500 million company downstairs to turn his ideas into products.

"Right now, I'm developing a superefficient camp stove that weighs a few ounces and burns little sticks. "

"Before that, I created a fly-fishing boot with aluminum bars on the sole that works well on slippery rocks."

"We're producing a series of videos to show customers how to fix things themselves. We're even going to make a little sewing kit."

"I've gone back to the fly-fishing that was done in the 15th century, with just a pole and a line on the end with a fly--no $1,000 graphite rod or $500 reel. I love the idea of adapting myself to a situation rather than buying a lot of stuff. People don't need fancy stuff--they need gear that lasts and that works well. I've built my company based on that."

-- Rex

John Brown
(johnbrown2005) - F

Locale: Portland, OR
Sewing kit, what thread? on 08/08/2013 15:04:22 MDT Print View

This is very cool. I just saw the sewing kit at the Patagonia store, $30! Will be making my own, what thread do you all use for the heavy duty thread?

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Sewing kit, what thread? on 08/08/2013 15:20:55 MDT Print View

I carry about ten feet of a very strong black nylon thread, and about ten feet of a clear monofilament line. One sewing needle.

All I ever use is black duct tape.

--B.G.--

Greg Pehrson
(GregPehrson) - MLife

Locale: playa del caballo blanco
Poly thread, dental floss on 08/08/2013 21:03:22 MDT Print View

On a little plastic card, I wound strong black polyester thread and waxed dental floss. The waxed dental floss is to approximate the waxed thread in the original Chouinard kit. The poly thread is for clothes, tarp, quilt, and non-stress areas of the backpack. I've never used the dental floss, but I could imagine using it for tears in my shoes or backpack straps. But Bob's post has me thinking maybe the floss is overkill for LW/UL gear? Maybe someone who's a firm believer in floss for repairs could weigh in on its use?

Edited to add: Also, Bob, could you explain what you sew with the monofilament line? Thanks in advance.

Edited by GregPehrson on 08/08/2013 21:06:13 MDT.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Poly thread, dental floss on 08/08/2013 21:25:18 MDT Print View

"Also, Bob, could you explain what you sew with the monofilament line?"

Dainty unmentionables?

I don't know. A friend of mine once gashed open his leg when he stepped into a hollow snow bank with a sharp rock underneath. He sewed up his own skin using monofilament line.

--B.G.--

Robert Meurant
(rmeurant) - MLife
Use in its day, and now... on 08/08/2013 22:00:34 MDT Print View

My original Chouinard Expedition Sewing Kit came in mighty handy in Zanskar-Ladakh in 1984, when the shoulder strap on my UltraLight daypack disintegrated, some days from the road-end.

I sewed up a replacement pack using a stuff bag and two straps I had, and it worked well enough for the 18 day trek.

Now its worth over $100? (I still use it, and it ain't for sale!)

John Brown
(johnbrown2005) - F

Locale: Portland, OR
Thread on 08/09/2013 01:10:49 MDT Print View

I ordered some #69 and #92 bonded Polyester thread. Will report back on how it seems when I get it.

Curtis Ware
(ware_curtis) - MLife

Locale: Midwest
Sewing Kits available on 08/09/2013 10:22:56 MDT Print View

From Patagoinia Customer Service:

The Expedition Sewing Kit, Style 12000, is expected to be available on the website on 08/29/13. The kits are available at our retail stores now or you can call Customer Service at 800-638-6464 to place an order. Its retail price is $29.00.

Please find below the description for the item:

For repairs in the field, our Expedition Sewing Kit (with carrying case) equips you with everything from a 7075 aluminum alloy awl to thread in ten colors

Forget the ten essentials. Survivalists know you need four: food, water, a good knife and our Expedition Sewing Kit (a revival of our original Chouinard Equipment Sewing Kit). Front and center to the kit’s utilitarian burliness is the all-everything awesome awl. The awl isn’t just any awl: It’s machined from high-quality 7075 aluminum alloy – think climbing hardware and hang glider frames – that sews anything from broken pack-straps to the sole flopping off your boot (the stealthy and creative can probably use it to hunt or fish for dinner, too). Heavy duty needles and thread fix the fussy items, while buttons, pins and colored thread mend the easy stuff; and the Tenacious Tape™ adhesive patch seals together everything from torn down jackets to bleeding wounds (not medically approved).

Included in the kit are:

- 2-piece, machined awl made of high-quality 7075 aluminum alloy
- Two heavy-duty needles, nylon thread, waxed polyester thread and cotter pin
- Tenacious Tape™ adhesive patch
- Thread (ten different colors), two sewing needles, two buttons and two safety pins
- Two-pocket, recycled polyester faux suede carrying case



I hope this helps. If you have any questions, please let us know.
All the best!
Ting
Patagonia Customer Service
www.Patagonia.com
1-800-638-6464
Patagonia Customer Service Reps are available for inquiries weekdays from 6am to 7pm, and weekends from 8am to 4pm (PT). Phone orders are accepted 24 hours a day, 7 days a week

Sam Haraldson
(sharalds) - MLife

Locale: Gallatin Range
MYO Chouinard Expedition Sewing Kit, 0.9 oz and under $10 on 08/09/2013 10:35:53 MDT Print View

Cool to see this rebirthed.

John Brown
(johnbrown2005) - F

Locale: Portland, OR
Chouinard Sewing Kit on 08/09/2013 13:05:40 MDT Print View

by the way, I saw the new kit at the Patagonia store the other day. Was pretty neat, and inspired one to make your own!

Edited by johnbrown2005 on 08/12/2013 18:42:37 MDT.

John Brown
(johnbrown2005) - F

Locale: Portland, OR
Thread on 08/12/2013 18:23:36 MDT Print View

My 69 and 92 polyester thread arrived. Either looks great for outdoor sewing. Will see if the 92 works with the size 16 needle and probably use that if so.

I got a ton of thread, if anyone wants 25 feet or so, pm me with your mailing and email address and I'll send you some (reserving right to cut it off in the unlikely event of an overwhelming response ;-))

Daniel Collins
(Diablo-V)

Locale: Orlando FL
re; sewing kit on 09/01/2013 09:20:00 MDT Print View

Greg,
How many 3 inch cotter pins ya need ?
Mine are cadmium plated unlike the zinc plated cheapos from china.
These are mil-spec, used for jet aircraft wheel nuts.
Drop me a PM and I'll get some coming.
Dan

Edited by Diablo-V on 09/01/2013 09:21:00 MDT.

Greg Pehrson
(GregPehrson) - MLife

Locale: playa del caballo blanco
Kit up on Pat. site on 09/01/2013 11:45:22 MDT Print View

Patagonia has their new version of the sewing kit up on their site now:
http://www.patagonia.com/us/product/expedition-sewing-kit?p=12000-0-130

Daniel, thanks, I'll PM you.
-Greg

Daniel Collins
(Diablo-V)

Locale: Orlando FL
cotter pins on 09/02/2013 04:17:36 MDT Print View

I found 18 of them, 3.25 inch counting the staggered end which can be cut off.

Kevin Beeden
(captain_paranoia) - F

Locale: UK
It's a sewing kit... on 09/04/2013 11:48:43 MDT Print View

7075 aircraft spec aluminium, mil-spec, cadmium-plated cotter pins...

Isn't this all just a bit OTT for a sewing kit...?

Daniel Collins
(Diablo-V)

Locale: Orlando FL
aluminum? on 09/04/2013 21:25:05 MDT Print View

There is no such thing as a Cad plated aluminum anything.
Cad is for steel. Anodizing and Alodine is for aluminum.
There are no aluminum cotter pins used on any aircraft that I know of,
and there is no mil-spec for aluminum cotter pins.
Sorry to go off topic.

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: MYO Chouinard Expedition Sewing Kit, 0.9 oz and under $10 on 09/05/2013 00:39:21 MDT Print View

I have one of the original kits. Carried it in my pack for years and never used it once. It is now in my museum (the garage) with all the old stuff -- you know, analyze your gear and remove anything you don't use.

Chounaird sewing kit

Kevin Beeden
(captain_paranoia) - F

Locale: UK
Punctuation is important... on 09/05/2013 04:25:24 MDT Print View

> There is no such thing as a Cad plated aluminum anything.

Excuse my poor punctuation; it was meant to be a list of two items that had been mentioned in the thread, only I used a comma instead of a semi-colon....

7075 aircraft spec aluminium; mil-spec, cadmium-plated cotter pins...

Daniel Collins
(Diablo-V)

Locale: Orlando FL
no problem on 09/05/2013 04:45:52 MDT Print View

No problem, but actually I would like to find an aluminum pin vise for my kit to save weight....... will have to check the RC hobby store here.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: cotter pin overkill on 09/05/2013 07:28:57 MDT Print View

What about an aluminum rod instead of the pin? Piece of titanium tent stake?

Daniel Collins
(Diablo-V)

Locale: Orlando FL
titanium on 09/05/2013 08:21:42 MDT Print View

Excellent idea

John McAlpine
(HairlessApe) - M

Locale: PNW
Stupid question here.... on 09/05/2013 10:00:12 MDT Print View

What is the cotter pin for? I don't know why I'd need that for sewing. Sorry for being so clueless on the subject.

Kevin Beeden
(captain_paranoia) - F

Locale: UK
Cotter pin on 09/05/2013 12:04:29 MDT Print View

The cotter pin is to provide something to spread the load in the hand, when using the pin vice to hold a sturdy needle when sewing tough materials such as leather, as you might have to for repairs.

The whole pin vice thing is a solution, but it's not the only one. I'm sure traditional leather workers didn't, and don't use a pin vice; an awl of some sort is used. The pin vice and cotter pin provides the same function as an awl, in a lightweight form, using things that a tinkerer might find lying around in a workshop... To then take these things and make them from aircraft-grade aluminium, and cadmium-plated steel isn't really great product design or engineering, as it's not really addressing the actual design problem, just replaing the tinkerer's solution with over-engineered versions of what was lying about...

John Brown
(johnbrown2005) - F

Locale: Portland, OR
Re: Re: MYO Chouinard Expedition Sewing Kit, 0.9 oz and under $10 on 09/05/2013 16:24:50 MDT Print View

Nick, can you post the dimensions of the case of the original kit? Thx!

Rex Sanders
(Rex) - M

Locale: Central California Coast
Cotter pin - part 2 on 09/05/2013 23:05:18 MDT Print View

Cotter pin also was in the original kit to help re-thread drawstrings that had slipped out of continuous fabric channels.

Examples: the drawstring around the top of a sleeping bag, stuff sack, or some packs.

You pull some of the drawstring through the head of the cotter pin, then inchworm the cotter pin around the channel.

Needed more often back in the days when we tied knots in drawstrings, instead of carrying those heavy cord locks. Sometimes your knot would slip while tugging on the string - and suddenly you have a handful of string and no easy way to close the opening.

So the cotter pin fills two functions – multi-use! Replacing the cotter pin with a solid rod, loses the re-thread function.

-- Rex

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Cotter pin - part 2 on 09/06/2013 06:17:13 MDT Print View

You could carry a bodkin or use a sailmakers needle for the threading purpose too.

Morgan Rucks
(rucksmtr) - F
cotter pin on 09/06/2013 11:22:56 MDT Print View

The cotter pin is also a spare for replacing a lost one on an external frame pack.

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
MY WIFE WON'T LET ME GO BACKPACKING THIS WEEKEND OR GO INTO THE GARAGE on 09/07/2013 11:56:58 MDT Print View

"Nick, can you post the dimensions of the case of the original kit? Thx!"

John, I missed your post. I will try to sneak into the garage this weekend and locate it for measurements. I thought I was going backpacking this weekend, but she won't let me. I explain later.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: MY WIFE WON'T LET ME GO BACKPACKING THIS WEEKEND OR GO INTO THE GARAGE on 09/07/2013 15:51:05 MDT Print View

Time to finished remodeling the inside Nick.

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: Re: MY WIFE WON'T LET ME GO BACKPACKING THIS WEEKEND OR GO INTO THE GARAGE on 09/07/2013 16:57:08 MDT Print View

Thanks to the modern wonder of technology, yesterday at 5pm my computer, iPhone, and iPad all simultaneously reminded me that today is our anniversary -- just in time, before I told her I was going backpacking :)

Also, a couple months ago it reminded me to buy gifts :)

Edited by ngatel on 09/07/2013 16:59:51 MDT.

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: MYO Chouinard Expedition Sewing Kit, 0.9 oz and under $10 on 09/07/2013 17:44:50 MDT Print View

I love this idea, and I went to my favorite tool supply (Hardwick's in Seattle) and got a pin vise with 3 different sized collets (the part that grabs inside) for $2.99 and a stainless steel cotter pin for $0.60. The pin vise came with a 2" long extension on the end which I cut off and smoothed the base. The cross hole was too small for a decent size cotter pin and I drilled it out to suit. I also smoothed the tip of the cotter pin so it wouldn't catch or scratch things. That's a standard sewing needle in the vise in the photo. Weight as shown in 0.55oz/15g. An aluminum vise would be great.

I have a "hotel freebie" sewing kit with needles, thread and spare buttons to add. I would add this to a small bag or box with duct tape, safety pins, a small roll of 26ga wire, light braided line, and a small tube of Super Glue. I'm going to look for some heavier sewing machine needles too.

Pin vise for sewing kit.

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: MY WIFE WON'T LET ME GO BACKPACKING THIS WEEKEND OR GO INTO THE GARAGE on 09/08/2013 17:07:12 MDT Print View

"Nick, can you post the dimensions of the case of the original kit? Thx!"

Empty and flat it is 3 3/4" tall and 2 7/8" wide.

I scanned the instructions for the awl and also included a picture of the kit contents. I don't know if the instructions will be good enough to read in the post.

Unfortunately when I was taking everything out I dropped one of the "sewing machine" needles and it rolled under a bookcase. Now someone owes me a beer :)

Chouinard sewing instructions

Chouinard sewing kit contents

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: "Hotel Freebie" sewing kits on 09/08/2013 19:21:04 MDT Print View

I was having visions of Nick's wife at the back door to the garage with a can of bear spray in hand:)

FYI, if anyone wants those "hotel freebie" sewing kits, you can get them at http://www.minimus.biz/Easy-Mending-Kit-J01-0459902-8104.aspx as well as a ziliion other travel size goodies. They have lots of meds, first aid and food items. IIRC, they have free shipping if you spend $20, which isn't hard :)

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: Re: "Hotel Freebie" sewing kits on 09/08/2013 21:24:51 MDT Print View

"I was having visions of Nick's wife at the back door to the garage with a can of bear spray in hand:)"

You don't want to mess with Mrs. G. She doesn't take guff from anyone and owns Mace and a handheld Taser. She isn't easily intimidated either; unless you are a rattlesnake or a lizard.

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: The Missus on 09/08/2013 22:08:26 MDT Print View

Mine's an RN. I could wake up looking very strange--- or not at all. Makes you think!

Thanks for the info on the sewing kit. It's really a clever collection of tools. I need to get some of that McNett's tape.

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: Re: The Missus on 09/08/2013 22:11:33 MDT Print View

Dale,

You were pretty creative with the awl by going to the hardware store. But as I said earlier, I carried this thing for years and never used anything in it -- and too think they apparently are fetching big bucks in eBay. The world has gone nuts.