2013 Patagonia Houdini pocket size too small to stuff
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daniel B
(dbogey) - F

Locale: East Coast
2013 Patagonia Houdini pocket size too small to stuff on 04/04/2013 08:09:45 MDT Print View

anyone purchase the latest houdini and notice that you cannot stuff the jacket into the chest pocket. this is my 2nd Houdini the first being a model from 2011 which you can easily stuff into the chest pocket. I tried but cannot get the dammm thing to zip. Wondering if anyone else had this problem with their 2013 houdini.

thanks

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: 2013 Patagonia Houdini pocket size too small to stuff on 04/04/2013 08:13:03 MDT Print View

I noticed that also on my one.

Ike Jutkowitz
(Ike) - M

Locale: Central Michigan
Re stuff pocket on 04/04/2013 08:17:30 MDT Print View

Just out of curiosity, why would you want to? Just toss it in the pack with everything else.

Max Dilthey
(mdilthey) - M

Locale: MaxTheCyclist.com
Some People Like Stuff Pockets on 04/04/2013 08:22:12 MDT Print View

Ike, it's a handy feature for those who use it. It helps with protecting the jacket.

Careful packing is always an option, but having one less thing to worry about is good.

Garth Collier
(garthc) - MLife

Locale: Singapore
Re: 2013 Patagonia Houdini pocket size too small to stuff on 04/04/2013 08:25:48 MDT Print View

Yes same issue, this zip feels like it wants to explode...way too difficult to do so i just use a zip lock to store it in the front pocket of my pack.

daniel B
(dbogey) - F

Locale: East Coast
update - Spoke with Patagonia about this on 04/04/2013 08:26:04 MDT Print View

Just got off the phone with Mary from Patagonia and she tried with a women's model and after about 2 minutes was able to get the jacket to stuff into the chest pocket but admitted that there seems to be a problem with this years model.

daniel B
(dbogey) - F

Locale: East Coast
Re: Re stuff pocket on 04/04/2013 08:31:07 MDT Print View

If I stuff this into the chest pocket and can put it in my hip pocket, back pocket, clip it to a Carabiner or a hip pocket on my pack.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: Re stuff pocket on 04/04/2013 08:31:28 MDT Print View

Shame on you Ike, dont you realise its to see how small it packs ;-)

It does not bother me as I would be wearing it all the time.

A W
(lost_01)
thought I was alone on 04/04/2013 08:58:59 MDT Print View

I've been thinking of making this post for weeks, with the title "How does one properly pack their Houdini into the pocket?".

I feel I almost damaged the jacket attempting to get it to collapse down.

*then again, the smallest I can pack my zpacks poncho downs is still 4x bigger than how they shipped it to me.

Stevie Patrick
(XstevieX)

Locale: Adirondacks
same here on 04/04/2013 09:03:06 MDT Print View

I have yet to be able to zip it up with jacket stuffed. Definitely too small.

Greg Pehrson
(GregPehrson) - MLife

Locale: playa del caballo blanco
from pat's website on 04/04/2013 09:21:43 MDT Print View

Mind you, I have the old version with two hood drawcords and a velcro closure pocket, so this is not from personal experience, but on the Patagonia site under the reviews, someone wrote: "I've read other reviewers saying its hard to stuff into the pocket and at first I did have problems with that. But now I figured out how to properly do it. You need to use every space in the pocket - just keep stuffing it into the outer corners until the jacket is completely in the pouch. Then the pouch will be evenly inside and you can zip it up easy."
Sounds like the little bit of space lost by the corners not being pushed out completely i.e. filled first could make the difference.

Tad Englund
(bestbuilder) - F - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: from pat's website on 04/04/2013 09:56:35 MDT Print View

Greg, though I didn't write the review on the Patty website it is exactly what I found to be true.
Stuff the corners as full as you can get them and then work on evening it out as you finish stuffing. I cup my left hand over the top of the zipper and try and even out the pressure across the zipper as I pull it closed with my right hand.
This all might sound like a bunch of work just to get the thing in the pocket, but when it didn't work for my the first time I figured I was doing something wrong and tried the above solution- it takes all of 30 seconds to complete.
I wear my Houdini all the time even around town and when it get too worm to wear I stuff it so I can carry it easier.

J R
(JRinGeorgia) - F
it's not just the corners... on 04/04/2013 09:59:50 MDT Print View

Stuffing the corners fully is certainly part of what you need to do, but even so the jacket barely fits. I've actually been able to stuff the jacket into the pocket but then getting the zipper closed is another story. I have gotten it closed but it is a chore, and once done the thing is hard as a rock from being stuffed so tight.

Sean Passanisi
(passanis) - MLife
Re: it's not just the corners... on 04/04/2013 10:22:38 MDT Print View

I struggled the first few times but finally got it. Definitely not as easy as the Spring 2012 model, but it is possible.

I have a much easier time folding the new Houdini pants into the pocket.

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Re: it's not just the corners... on 04/04/2013 10:36:24 MDT Print View

+1 on don't bother. I haven't used self-stowing features on any clothing that had them-- more trouble that it's worth. The Houdini stuffs into any little nook in my pack, most likely in an outside pocket where I can get to it easily.

@ Sean: give us a thread on the new Houdini pants. I'm surprised Patagonia didn't make more noise about them.

eric chan
(bearbreeder) - F
stuff on 04/04/2013 11:11:14 MDT Print View

its a pretty useful, even critical feature to be able to do this easily when climbing

the jacket stuffed clips to the back of your harness

Maris L
(Ablaut) - M
Re: 2013 Patagonia Houdini pocket size too small to stuff on 04/04/2013 11:45:54 MDT Print View

The 2013 Houdini is my first and only windshirt... I thought I was the only one who cared about this when I never read any complaints! Larger hands definitely help, I'm able to sort of cup the whole thing shut and zip it up. Silent grumbling and cursing only aggravates it. You have to sort of sing a short lullaby and then it gives in.

Yeah, in the pack it's easier to just stuff it in any space, loosely. But in the city, or on long Greyhound travels, I appreciate the pocket when I'm trying to keep a small backpack organized. I've even avoided coat check at a few shows when I can stuff the thing in my girlfriend's purse (though I'd never brag about this anywhere else).

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: stuff on 04/04/2013 11:46:07 MDT Print View

I like a large expanse of solid ground under my feet :) Harnesses are for beasts of burden ;)

Nancy Twilley
(goodcaver2)

Locale: STL
women's version on 04/04/2013 14:02:29 MDT Print View

That is strange -- I found the new women's version a little tighter of a fit than the 2012 one (ended up returning the 2013, and keeping the 2012) but definitely not difficult to stuff -- maybe the women's pocket is larger?

edit: also the 2012 women's pocket is on the side, instead of the chest, where I guess it has a little more room to roam.

Edited by goodcaver2 on 04/04/2013 14:03:26 MDT.

Sean Passanisi
(passanis) - MLife
Carabiner on 04/04/2013 14:36:30 MDT Print View

Does anyone use a carabiner to clip their Houdini (or other gear) to their shoulder straps? I recently bought a Circuit and I'm evaluating whether to keep my Houdini in my belt pocket or clipped to the shoulder strap.