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DeLorme inReach SE announced, ships mid to late April
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Mike W
(skopeo) - F

Locale: British Columbia
DeLorme inReach SE firmware update... on 05/28/2013 00:09:54 MDT Print View

Sort of telling isn't it... the product hasn't even been widely released and they are doing firmware upgrades. I suspect it's been rushed out the door before testing has been completed.

I did notice that there is still a message on my inReach account page (I owned the old unit and kept my account active while waiting for my pre-order), that says the contact Sync is still not working for the inReach SE. You would think they would be rushing that update out quickly before the units are widely available. With the Sync not working they will get a lot of complaints from users. They explain how to manually update your contacts on the inReach SE.

Maybe guys like Fred, that have received their inReach SE's early, will have all the bugs reported well before the rest of us get the new unit. :) Keep testing Fred, and report all the bugs!

Edited by skopeo on 05/28/2013 00:13:05 MDT.

Rex Sanders
(Rex) - M

Locale: Central California Coast
inReach SE videos, and message length limits on 06/02/2013 22:33:00 MDT Print View

gpscity.com just released five videos showing DeLorme inReach SE functions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c898Z9r5WAc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITS_HFN4VL0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX-1wtjzjrY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My0im4YropY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poTaCfBH20A

Also, you get about 99 characters guaranteed delivery in an SMS text message to certain cell phones, since each message starts with about 61 characters of your name and a link to your current location. Some phones truncate at 160 characters; some send two messages with the full message. The inReach SE screen indicates you have up to 160 characters, which is not always true. The entire message will show in the linked web page, but some cell phones don't have Internet access!

See this thread on the DeLorme forums for details.

-- Rex

Everybody's different, and everybody changes.

Edited by Rex on 06/02/2013 22:42:55 MDT.

Mike Bitz
(trek_guy) - M
Carabiner clip? on 06/04/2013 09:48:31 MDT Print View

I've been unable to decipher if there is a loop/hole on the inReach SE suitable for hooking it to a backpack using a carabiner. This would be useful/required if tracking is enabled. Can anyone who owns one confirm this? Thank you.

Rob E
(eatSleepFish)

Locale: Canada
Re: DeLorme inReach SE firmware update... on 06/04/2013 10:29:54 MDT Print View

Any word on a firmware update that will allow one to view the current GPS coordinates in the field?

My suspicion is that they don't want to chew into sales of their inReach model that pairs with their GPS unit.

Was on a trip recently where we had a GPS geotagging digital camera, a SPOT messenger 2, and a handheld GPS. 3 GPS chips and antennas, but only one device would display coordinates to you in the field.

Rex Sanders
(Rex) - M

Locale: Central California Coast
Re: Carabiner clip? on 06/04/2013 22:54:16 MDT Print View

I don't have one, but the inReach SE should come with a lanyard and a belt clip, according to the owners manual.

You can see part of the lanyard, installed, in the Panbo prototype review photos:
http://www.panbo.com/archives/2013/04/inreach_se_will_the_screen_do_it.html

You can see the holes for the lanyard just above the USB port, with the belt clip on the back, in this GPS City video, starting about 1:15:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c898Z9r5WAc

And you can see the inReach SE attached to packs with the belt clip in DeLorme's long commercial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqQukvj_diI

-- Rex

Edited by Rex on 06/04/2013 23:33:28 MDT.

Rex Sanders
(Rex) - M

Locale: Central California Coast
Re: Re: DeLorme inReach SE firmware update... on 06/05/2013 00:08:19 MDT Print View

"My suspicion is that they don't want to chew into sales of their inReach model that pairs with their GPS unit."

Looks like the inReach PN-60w is going away. It's buried on the inReach web site, and it's been out of stock for a few months now.

Besides, you can get most GPS functions by pairing the inReach SE or inReach Smartphone with a smart phone and DeLorme's Earthmate app.

The prototype reviewed by Panbo could display track point GPS coordinates under History, maybe that's still available, the manual isn't clear.

-- Rex

Rex Sanders
(Rex) - M

Locale: Central California Coast
DeLorme inReach two months free for new activations on 06/08/2013 22:59:58 MDT Print View

"When you activate your new inReach any time during June and July, you'll get your first two months free of your annual satellite subscription plan."

Details here:

http://www.inreachdelorme.com/summer/

-- Rex

Jennifer Mitol
(Jenmitol) - M

Locale: In my dreams....
Would you recommend this yet? on 06/10/2013 09:10:00 MDT Print View

Since my backpacking is getting further and further afield (thanks to sooo much load lightening!!), and my adventures are getting more and more adventurous, I'm starting to consider one of these, especially if I do the PCT next year.

Is this a device anyone would recommend yet? I'd like to get one for the JMT (to make my mom happy), and this seems to check all the boxes I want to check.

I'm in no hurry, of course...I certainly CAN wait for better technology, but goodness if we always keep waiting for better technology......

Mike Bitz
(trek_guy) - M
Or Spot Gen3 on 06/10/2013 09:20:45 MDT Print View

Also another similar contender is the Spot Gen3 which is only 3.2 oz (compared to the 6.7 oz. inReach SE). It depends on what your requirements are. If you only need tracking for people back home, plus an OK message and SOS capability, the Spot may suffice. inReach SE adds two-way communication and mapping when paired to a smartphone, which may be useful, but double the weight.

Jim Larkey
(jimlarkey) - MLife

Locale: NoCO
Re: Or Spot Gen3 on 06/10/2013 09:52:55 MDT Print View

Iridium...thumbs-up
Globalstar...thumbs-down

Rex Sanders
(Rex) - M

Locale: Central California Coast
Re: Would you recommend this yet? on 06/10/2013 10:05:33 MDT Print View

My long-standing rule with high-tech equipment is "don't depend on promises." I have not seen any hands-on reviews of the DeLorme inReach SE, and deliveries seem to trickling out. Based on specs only, the inReach SE might be the best device of it's type. Other types include SPOT devices, satellite phones, and other two-way satellite texting devices.

If you are not in a hurry to buy something, wait a while to see some reviews. Or buy from a dealer with good return policies.

-- Rex

Mike W
(skopeo) - F

Locale: British Columbia
inReach SE... on 06/10/2013 18:11:41 MDT Print View

IF you are carrying a smart phone anyway, you could get the original Inreach for cheaper and it works very well and you don't have to wait to buy one. Waiting for the new device to be released has been a real pain, I was out on a trip on the weekend and we wanted to contact somebody back home (to change our itinerary) but we were off the grid and we had no satellite communication device to use... I guess I shouldn't have sold my original inReach until I received the new one (but thought it would be easier to sell "before" the new gadgets was widely released).

I've owned both the Spot Connect (one way messenger) and the inReach (original) that needed a smart phone. I'm on the wait list for the inReach SE but my supplier is saying it will be the end of June before I get one. My inReach worked way better than the Spot Connect IME and was worth the extra cost that you pay for the inReach plans.

I would have kept the original inReach if I always took a smart phone with me but since the only reason I took the smart phone was to use the inReach, the new inReach SE makes more sense for me to own (I don't want my phone with me). I did like replaceable batteries though, so the old inReach wins in that department.

The Spot Connect just didn't work well enough for me, so no point in carrying that device (others seem to think it's OK).

Jim Milstein
(JimSubzero) - M

Locale: New Uraniborg CO
"Shipping at full volume has begun." on 06/11/2013 22:32:01 MDT Print View

So says DeLorme:

http://www.inreachdelorme.com/product-info/inreachse.php

I asked REI how's it going today. They said they have yet to receive their first SE, but expect bushels of them any day now.

How long can we keep our interest up? The whole SE thing may be just a tease.

And, why no reviews yet? (The one customer review on Amazon hardly counts. We need reviews from competent users.) Fred, how about it?

Jim Milstein
(JimSubzero) - M

Locale: New Uraniborg CO
Re: "Shipping at full volume has begun." on 06/13/2013 09:26:48 MDT Print View

Maybe the dam has broken. REI shipped my SE last night. I am eager to test it and will report the results to BPL "real soon now".

Jim Milstein
(JimSubzero) - M

Locale: New Uraniborg CO
Micro Review from Biker on 06/14/2013 12:03:17 MDT Print View

This guy at

http://advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=21624908&postcount=15

obtained an SE, got it up and running without apparent trouble, and likes its tracking while motorcycling in heavily wooded areas. He found BT pairing to iOS devices easy, and he likes the topo map application. Sadly, he is silent on sending and receiving messages. And the big question of whether the current coords are shown on the SE's display remains unanswered. We care about this for using the SE alone with paper maps. When paired with a BT display device no big deal, since the current coords will be displayed there.

After the guy who got totally wedged for a weekend just registering the device (in the single Amazon review), this is encouraging.

I promise to do better. (delivery tomorrow!)

Mike W
(skopeo) - F

Locale: British Columbia
Another review... on 06/14/2013 14:24:45 MDT Print View

Nice to hear some positive feedback. To-date, the only other user review of the inReach SE is here: (half way down the page)

Not such a glowing report.

I look forward to seeing your review!

Edited by skopeo on 06/14/2013 14:26:07 MDT.

Rex Sanders
(Rex) - M

Locale: Central California Coast
"OOB experience is terrible" on 06/14/2013 17:24:53 MDT Print View

Another review posted on Amazon today:
http://www.amazon.com/DeLorme-AG-009871-201-inReach-Satellite-Communicator/product-reviews/B00BX7TJ2O/

-- Rex

Jim Milstein
(JimSubzero) - M

Locale: New Uraniborg CO
inReach SE Review on 06/15/2013 17:20:31 MDT Print View

I just posted the first installment of my SE review

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/reviews/display_reviews.html?bo=watch&forum_thread_id=78521

I wasn't sure whether to put it in the safety equipment or GPS category. Went with GPS. Sue me.

CORRECTION: it's in survival gear. Don't sue me.

The review is meant to be ongoing as I get further and further into the use of the SE. So far, so good. I rated it as a four since I've had no significant problems, but I don't know it well enough to give it a better rating. Cold weather performance can't be evaluated for a while -- not in these latitudes, anyway.

Edited by JimSubzero on 06/16/2013 08:16:44 MDT.

Mike Bitz
(trek_guy) - M
Charge indicator on 06/16/2013 09:06:49 MDT Print View

First look at this... The USB port on the side connects to the included cable very loosely. Would normally make me nervous that it is perhaps not getting quality charge time. However, check out this charging screen they have built. Very handy!

inReach SE charging

Rex Sanders
(Rex) - M

Locale: Central California Coast
Re: inReach SE Review on 06/16/2013 11:00:25 MDT Print View

Jim,

Thanks for posting your ongoing review.

Early reviewers describe serious problems with firmware updates and/or customer service. Do you have any experience with that?

-- Rex