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Daryl and Daryl
(lyrad1) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest, USA, Earth
Soylent Experiments on 03/19/2013 09:22:10 MDT Print View


Link above will take you to a forum discussion of Soylent. Fellow is experimenting with a shake mix that gives one everything they need nutritionally.

Nick Larsen
(stingray4540) - F

Locale: South Bay
Re: Soylent Experiments on 03/19/2013 13:46:33 MDT Print View

It's made of people!!!

Cool, but how many calories per ounce?!

Nick Larsen
(stingray4540) - F

Locale: South Bay
Re: Soylent Experiments on 03/19/2013 14:09:35 MDT Print View

He'll I'd try it! Would love something like this for the majority of my meals. Not something I'd replace all food with, but would be nice for the majority of my day to day non restaurant meals.

(livingontheroad) - M
food on 03/19/2013 17:11:04 MDT Print View

My dad lived feeding Ensure thru a GI tube into his stomach for several yrs, he could not eat.

You can live on prepared food substitutes.

But if youve seen pics of someone that has been on them for ~10+ yrs, you would come to the conclusion that something isnt totally right, or the person would look healthier.

You can have all the macro-nutrients we know of

You will be missing micro nutrients supplied by a varied diet almost assuredly.

Heather Hohnholz
(Hawke) - M
Soylent on 03/20/2013 18:24:32 MDT Print View

I think this guy makes a pretty good case for having covered both macro & micro nutrients. It was interesting to me to find out that there aren't really THAT many of either category. It's just that so few are found in the same places, we have to eat many different foods. Anyway, if he's still doing this and is healthy one year from now, I'd be tempted to try it.

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: Soylent on 03/20/2013 18:34:38 MDT Print View

I don't think micro nutrients are well understood

What they are, how many, what difference it makes if you get them or not,...

Eric Blumensaadt
(Danepacker) - MLife

Locale: Mojave Desert
Silver Bullet machine & soylent meals on 03/24/2013 13:55:29 MDT Print View

Seems like the "max blender" known as The Silver Bullet could whip up a combo of fresh fruits snd veggies into a balanced meal.

Bradley Danyluk
(dasbin) - MLife
food vs nutrients on 04/06/2013 14:54:10 MDT Print View

The other really important point is that often our bodies ignore or are unable to process many vitamins if they occur on their own (as in supplement capsules) versus when then appear in particular combinations in real food. This very often will "unlock" the body's ability to digest and absorb the nutrients. We have evolved to eat food, not nutrients.

All this said, you can go a long time without any food at all, and almost indefinitely with extremely minimal food (lemon juice fasting etc) so I wouldn't worry about it while hiking very much at all. There is no particular reason to maintain a "normal" diet while hiking for a few days, even nutritionally, except psychological hurdles (diabetes and other health issues excepted). I find that if I keep active, even my energy levels remain high while fasting. When I allow myself to stop, then I crash... but that's exactly what you want when you stop for the night anyway.

Edited by dasbin on 04/06/2013 14:56:48 MDT.

Jan S
Re: food vs nutrients on 04/06/2013 15:24:57 MDT Print View

"diabetes and other health issues excepted"

Can't speak for other health issues but a diabetic can eat nothing for days just as a person without diabetes can. Only trouble I run into in those situations is that I still need a bit of short-acting insulin from time to time and then might end up with low blood sugar. In that cases a bit of sugar will do. But given a bit of experience and experimenting I'm pretty sure I could avoid that too.

Why someone would "eat" something like Soylent without need is a bit beyond me though.

NFN Scout
(scoutout) - F - M
Schmoylent &/or DIY Soylent on 03/23/2015 17:45:05 MDT Print View

OK, I admit, was curious if this forum ever discussed this stuff. Only see a few tiny threads on it. So has anyone tried it on the trail? I've been on it for a few weeks now at home and I think it could be really appealing on the trail.

First: why would anyone skip real food? I'm a pretty healthy eating vegetarian (want chard & seitan recipes?) and while it sounded absurd when I first read about Soylent, once my (even healthier) wife encouraged me to buy some I realized how it helps me avoid some of the crappy food I eat during the day, and I don't love cooking enough to want to do that more. I only do 1-2 meals of it usually, but I've got a lot more fiber+protein than I was getting otherwise. (And I still usually blend greens for micronutrients.)

Second: What's Schmoylent? Soylent was always open source, so the DIY Soylent site has a bunch of soylent-ish recipes you can tweak to make yourself. Or you can buy them premade (without the Soylent wait list) on the Schmoylent site. I like the Ax Chow. 2100 cals/day, lots of protein, few carbs.

I'm spurred by reading how the one guy did the whole PCT with only cold dehydrated beans shaken in cold water every night. That got me thinking about this as an ultralight backpacking food. Maybe it could be great. Why?

1. No stove needed. No fuel needed. <-- pow!
2. Little packing waste. (ziplocs)
3. extremely dense yet easily packable meals. (powder)
4. with soylent DIY or Schmoylent, you can tweak to meet exactly your target cals.
5. tastes so much better than just dehydrated beans.

So if anyone gets to try it before I do, I'd love to hear a reportback.