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Jan S
(karl-ton)
Re: Gout! on 03/23/2013 17:49:54 MDT Print View

My father has gout and he needed to radically change his diet and loose weight. Other then that he's fine as far as I know and mostly symptom free – as long as he doesn't eat two large steaks in a row that is. If that would be it, it should manageable without long term meds – at least for him it is.

As for walking barefoot or running around in minimalist shoes: If you mostly use flip flops and shoes without heel drops you're almost there. I usually wear Merrell Trail Gloves for almost anything or no shoes at all and the hardest part in the beginning is to always land on your fore foot and hitting the floor a lot less hard. Takes about a week I'd say. If it's possible for you to change shoes during work, you can always take minimal shoes and other shoes and just switch if you start to feel uncomfortable. This assumes that you have already started to develop the muscles in your feet by wearing flip flops or other flat shoes or no shoes at all. My feet have also become considerably wider in the process, so that is something to watch out for.

EDIT: I just saw that your mom has rheumatoid arthritis. I know virtually nothing about the symptoms for that, but as far as I know there is a genetic predisposition suspected to cause this. Might that be it?

Edited by karl-ton on 03/23/2013 17:54:36 MDT.

Ozzy McKinney
(PorcupinePhobia) - F

Locale: PNW
RA on 03/23/2013 19:49:52 MDT Print View

negative on the RA, at least so far, which is a relief!

Jennifer Mitol
(Jenmitol) - M

Locale: In my dreams....
Barefoots!!! on 03/26/2013 14:40:10 MDT Print View

All I can say is that as an orthopedic specialist, very little has come around that has been better for my practice than the barefoot running/hiking trend!

So many people think going barefoot is going to cure all their ills, and while there is a small place for it in a small group of people, for so many others it just brings on a whole new set of problems. The theory is nice, that thousands of years ago humans didn't wear shoes and we could run all day and bring down a cheetah; and tribes in Mexico can run 100 miles in sandals and never have an injury. Well that's great, except for the fact that nearly all of us started wearing little white leather shoes when we were 13 months old and have been wearing something ever since. You learned to walk in shoes, you wore them to school, to work...the whole time your feet were developing and your muscles and neurons were coming up with the pattern that would keep you upright when you walked and ran and jumped and stepped on uneven surfaces...

So THAT person is not at all the same as the tribesman who runs down a cheetah...who has never worn shoes in his life.

All I can say is keep running and hiking in bare feet, and the small group of you who are truly helped by it keep telling your friends...then give them my business card and have them take out more insurance.

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
The oldest shoe on 03/26/2013 17:44:55 MDT Print View

discovered so far is approximately 7,000 years old. It was discovered in a cave in Armenia. They've been around for a long time now. I wonder why.......?

Ozzy McKinney
(PorcupinePhobia) - F

Locale: PNW
Wait a minute... on 03/26/2013 19:07:56 MDT Print View

So you are saying I might be able to run down a cheetah?

Sold.

What do I do when I catch it?

Jennifer Mitol
(Jenmitol) - M

Locale: In my dreams....
Re: Wait a minute... on 03/26/2013 19:15:37 MDT Print View

But only if you run barefoot. Now get going!!

Ozzy McKinney
(PorcupinePhobia) - F

Locale: PNW
But... on 03/27/2013 23:03:37 MDT Print View

Well that doesn't answer my question! :P

I believe that training in bare feet, starting small, progressing slowly, can probably yield positive benefits. The reason I didn't consider it before the injury? I could hike 20+ miles a day, never had sore feet, ankles, calves, etc. No blisters, no bruises, no nothing. Why fix what isn't broken?

Injury happens. Try different things: changing shoes, footbed, running surface, frequency of workouts, etc. No bueno. Going barefoot is painless. Sweet. Rock the bare feets a while. I'll keep doing it too, as long as it doesn't hurt. But..

If I am to approach the problem from the perspective of regaining what I have lost, or as we say in nursing, returning to prior level of function, can the barefoot philosophy return me to hiking as I previously did? With the goal of "thru"-hiking the PCT in 2014, I can hardly expect to show up in Campo next April in a pair of huaraches and hike 2600 miles in 5 months. The goal seemed totally obtainable (in my brooks cascadias) 3 months ago, and seem highly unlikely in a pair of comfortable, if inappropriate, Lunas.

So, I'm keeping up the biking, stretching, etc, with the intention of returning to modern footwear, even if it costs the respect of more enlightened individuals. I'm doing to keep rocking my flops, or bare feet, too. Because it is comfortable, and because I think it is beneficial, bit by bit, to maintaining strong feet. Who knows. Maybe years from now I will walk the PCT in huaraches, but probably not in 2014.

Disclaimer- I just demolished a sixer of Fremont IPA, and I'm not entirely sure if what I've just written makes sense to the sober.

Brandon =Þ
(Beeen) - MLife

Locale: California
Re: But... on 03/27/2013 23:25:51 MDT Print View

Also have to resolve yourself for the the sad reality you might be aging and injuries are just part of that, even if we go naked for the rest of our lives and eat only fresh berries and salmon caught with our own teeth.

Disclaimer: 6 canned Blue Moon's (on #7) and one SoCo and Coke. Drinking because I'm in a walking cast/boot contemplating canceling all my summer trips after a very easy twelve mile hike left me hobbled with PTT. But I'll likely just go and deal with limping out.

Jennifer Mitol
(Jenmitol) - M

Locale: In my dreams....
Ill take care of your foot... on 03/28/2013 08:35:32 MDT Print View

Well Ozzy (which auto correct changes to "lazy," by the way!), ill ideally be on the pct in 2014...ill take care of that foot for you. Easy as pie :)

Ozzy McKinney
(PorcupinePhobia) - F

Locale: PNW
Deal on 03/28/2013 15:49:16 MDT Print View

well in that case, ignore everyone who has told you anything but "You must go!" :-P

Jan S
(karl-ton)
Re: Barefoots!!! on 03/28/2013 17:49:11 MDT Print View

"All I can say is that as an orthopedic specialist, very little has come around that has been better for my practice than the barefoot running/hiking trend!"

Judging by the blogs I've read about this is that a lot of people tend to simply over do it. Buying minimalist shoes and running 10 miles after you've worn overbuilt shoes all your life makes me cringe in pain just by reading it. From the same blogs I got the impression that pain is something you overcome by doing more of the same (and finding a good doctor a short while later).

And it doesn't help that a lot of people just seem to get simplified short version of the newest fad. Run without shoes! Hike ultralight! All of the fads I've seen make sense in a way but just skimming over 'Born to Run' or 'Ultralight Backpackin' Tips' and then doing without thinking isn't exactly the road to happiness. Although of course all the evangelists claim it is.

That said I think the whole less shoe thing has something going for it. But then I never liked a heel differential and have worn 'minimalist shoes' (Converse Chucks) as often as I could. Oh, and I come from a country that doesn't have a medical profession that only concerns itself with feet.