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Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
New 2013 Tarptent Models on 02/28/2013 16:44:20 MST Print View

New Double Walled Moment (with two doors!) and three person Cloudburst!

http://tarptent.com/whatsnew.html

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: New 2013 Tarptent Models on 02/28/2013 17:06:50 MST Print View

Oh, more gear porn :-)

I am off for a look.

Peter S
(prse) - MLife

Locale: Denmark
cloudburst 3 on 02/28/2013 17:34:50 MST Print View

looks really nice...

55 ounces / 1559 grams (with optional inner liner)

If i wanted a new roomy 2P tunnel tent, i'd get this, or wait for the winter Caffin coffin...

Edit: Btw, thank you Dave for the news!

Edited by prse on 02/28/2013 17:35:56 MST.

Jolly Green Giant
(regultr) - MLife

Locale: www.jolly-green-giant.blogspot.com
Re: New 2013 Tarptent Models on 02/28/2013 17:43:29 MST Print View

Is the Rainshadow 2 the lightest 3 person fully enclosed shelter on the market, whether Tarp Tent or others? I need to pick something up for time with my young sons...

Alex Wallace
(FeetFirst) - F

Locale: Northern California
Moment DW on 02/28/2013 18:03:01 MST Print View

Purchased and on it's way. I'm really looking forward to using this.

Matthew Hoskin
(mattgugel)

Locale: Kanangra-Boyd NP
new Tarptent models on 02/28/2013 18:24:15 MST Print View

Gee you guys are quick.
I just got an email from Cynthia, and before I could blink, someone has already posted the news.
The Moment DW looks really nice!

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Melbourne
New 2013 Tarptent Models on 02/28/2013 18:25:15 MST Print View

Moment DW
Moment DW


CB3
CB3

Edited by Franco on 02/28/2013 18:26:36 MST.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: new Tarptent models on 02/28/2013 18:38:53 MST Print View

I was waiting for Franco but I am extremely impatient.

Kevin Schneringer
(Slammer) - MLife

Locale: Oklahoma Flat Lands
TT Rainshadow on 02/28/2013 18:50:53 MST Print View

I believe the RAINSHADOW is the lightest. I have 3 and they are great lots of room and simple setup good wind load and condensate is so so
Kids can really make condensation for some reason.
We love ours and super lite

Hope this helps.

Scott Hayden
(Spiffyguy) - F
re Moment DW on 02/28/2013 19:15:45 MST Print View

I just started to put together a spreadsheet on tents. Went to put the moment on there and got confused by the DW that was suddenly there. Curious to know what has changed on the model. Seems the liner is now included? Still looks like a great tent. So far I don't have much on my spreadsheet to compare. Thanks for the update.

Konrad .
(Konrad1013) - MLife
Re: re Moment DW on 02/28/2013 19:17:25 MST Print View

Scott,
Not just a liner, but rather, a true separate inner tent making it a true double wall tent. In summary= heavier weight, more versatility, less condensation issues.

Edited by Konrad1013 on 02/28/2013 19:17:58 MST.

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: Re: re Moment DW on 02/28/2013 19:29:01 MST Print View

Hey Konrad, I guess we have our answers! (from that 'secret' thread)

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: Re: Re: re Moment DW on 02/28/2013 19:29:32 MST Print View

Oh, and nice work, Henry!

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Moment DW on 02/28/2013 19:31:56 MST Print View

Ooh. Me likey.

Scott Hayden
(Spiffyguy) - F
Re: Re: re Moment DW on 02/28/2013 19:32:11 MST Print View

Konrad thanks for the info. At 34 oz, without the extra pole for freestanding, seems pretty light to me. May just move to the top of my list.

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: Re: Re: re Moment DW on 02/28/2013 19:35:23 MST Print View

There's something kinda awesome about the CB3. Can't put my finger on it...
----------------------------


"Oh, more gear porn :-)"

Wait. There's ALSO gear porn!?!!?! My late night web searches have been far too narrow...

Edited by T.L. on 02/28/2013 19:38:14 MST.

Greg F
(GregF) - F

Locale: Canadian Rockies
Cloudburst on 02/28/2013 19:48:26 MST Print View

The vertical mesh is really well designed. Makes the useable area much greater. Same weight as the new Golite Imo3. The GL is 6" wider at the entrance and the same at the foot but the cloudburst seems like it would have alot more usable space. Great design.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Re: Re: re Moment DW on 02/28/2013 19:57:01 MST Print View

Henry, Franco, will a solid inner be available for the new Moment?

Scott Chassey
(schassey) - F

Locale: Bay Area
Very cool on 02/28/2013 19:59:04 MST Print View

The CB3 looks especially inviting.

Interesting that Henry made a DW Moment, as just this past week I began pining for what could be described as the inverse: a single walled, single doored/vestibuled Notch. I was guesstimating it could be in the 23-24 oz range and give me an 'upgrade' in terms of weight, stability, vestibule coverage, usable headroom and snow shedding ability from my Contrail.

Super cool to see Henry keep on incrementally refining and innovating year after year. Can't wait to see them on the trail!

diego dean
(cfionthefly) - M
cloudburst 3 on 02/28/2013 20:03:49 MST Print View

With the additional 3rd pole and inner available on the CB3, I wonder if this would be a great lightweight winter tunnel tent? Hopefully the sides can be pitched close enough to the ground to keep spindrift out. I had been looking at getting a Hillenburg but this might do the trick for most of my non expedition winter trips.

Henry Shires
(07100) - F - M
Re: Re: Re: Re: re Moment DW on 02/28/2013 20:12:14 MST Print View

> Henry, Franco, will a solid inner be available for the new Moment?

Yes, though it may have to wait until later summer. Our production team is pretty slammed. I'm thinking it will be more Scarp/StratoSpire style--all solid with mesh vents at top of doors--than the open mesh roof style on the Notch interior but I'm opening to lobbying and good beer ;-)

-H

Edited by 07100 on 02/28/2013 20:13:03 MST.

BER ---
(BER) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
New TT models for 2013 on 02/28/2013 20:14:54 MST Print View

Had been looking at the GL Imogene 3 today, but I like the vertical end walls of the CB3 better. Looking forward to seeing more on this. Any news on the price point yet?

Edited by BER on 02/28/2013 20:16:52 MST.

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
Moment on 02/28/2013 20:22:17 MST Print View

I like the weight, even with the added crossing pole and snow capability of the Moment. Would be a pound lighter than my BD Hilight. Would not be spin drift proof due to all that netting still. The vestibules would be nice in snow and wind for using stoves, which I'd like in a snow storm, just not high winds.
Duane

Dan Durston
(dandydan)

Locale: Cascadia
Nice on 02/28/2013 20:27:39 MST Print View

Henry needs to get some modern Thermarests :)

The new tents look nice.

Henry Shires
(07100) - F - M
Re: New TT models for 2013 on 02/28/2013 20:29:21 MST Print View

> Any news on the price point yet?

We're not quite in production just yet although we start cutting fabric tomorrow. I wont have sewing costs for 2-3 weeks. I'll get it posted on the Cloudburst 3 page as soon as we know. Best guess is that will certainly be competitive with the Imogene 3.

-H

Henry Shires
(07100) - F - M
Re: Nice on 02/28/2013 20:31:03 MST Print View

> Henry needs to get some modern Thermarests :)

Very true. I'm too cheap...

Henry Shires
(07100) - F - M
Re: cloudburst 3 on 02/28/2013 20:34:46 MST Print View

> Hopefully the sides can be pitched close enough to the ground to keep spindrift out.

The CB3 has a low fly edge--about 2.5" all the way around--so, yes, if you can manage a very small snow wall.

BER ---
(BER) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: Re: New TT models for 2013 on 02/28/2013 20:47:14 MST Print View

Thank you for the quick response, Mr. Shires. I will continue to watch this one.

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Henry and beer on 02/28/2013 21:06:09 MST Print View

>but I'm opening to lobbying and good beer ;-)

I home brew. Some cases for a CB3? ;)

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Henry and beer on 02/28/2013 21:22:53 MST Print View

Sorry Travis. The only good beer is farther north. He will have to come to Canada for a trade.

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: Re: Henry and beer on 02/28/2013 21:23:21 MST Print View

Dave, them's fightin' words.

Jeffs Eleven
(WoodenWizard) - F

Locale: Greater Mt Tabor
Re: Re: cloudburst 3 on 02/28/2013 22:17:46 MST Print View

Yeah That CB3 is looking purty man.

Feelin all nostalgic for my old Cloudburst. At least I sold it to my friend so I can still use it.






ooooH I just noticed the optional 3rd pole. Henry has his eyes on my wallet.

Edited by WoodenWizard on 03/01/2013 08:14:41 MST.

Charles P
(mediauras) - F

Locale: Terra
Re: Re: Re: New TT models for 2013 on 02/28/2013 22:43:22 MST Print View

Fantastic! I figured with the recent sale that a new Moment must be brewing. I've been waiting a while to pull the trigger on a new solo tent. Well, the Moment has arrived. :) I'll be ordering in a few weeks. Thanks for the keen work Henry and co.

Charles P
(mediauras) - F

Locale: Terra
Re: Re: Re: Re: New TT models for 2013 on 03/01/2013 08:20:13 MST Print View

Henry or Franco, can you give separate weights of fly, inner, and included crossing pole?
Thx.

Henry Shires
(07100) - F - M
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New TT models for 2013 on 03/01/2013 08:50:42 MST Print View

> Henry or Franco, can you give separate weights of fly, inner, and included crossing pole?

The interior is 10 oz (10.1 actually), the fly + stakes + stuffsack is 34-10 = 20 oz. Of the 20 oz, the included arch pole is 6.5 ounces. The "crossing pole" is a 7-ounce option.

-H

Edited by 07100 on 03/01/2013 09:35:07 MST.

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
New TT models for 2013 on 03/01/2013 08:59:34 MST Print View

Wow! Thank you Henry, a winter shelter (non-storm) about 1.5 lbs. I could lose 2 lbs. from using my BD Hilight. I may have to hold off getting that new, large capacity backpack for winter trips, until the dust settles.
Duanr

Charles P
(mediauras) - F

Locale: Terra
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New TT models for 2013 on 03/01/2013 09:06:22 MST Print View

Thanks for the quick reply! Again, looks like an awesome versatile shelter (esp for someone like me who doesn't use trekking poles). Can't wait to order.

Eric Lundquist
(cobberman) - F - M

Locale: Northern Colorado
Re: New 2013 Tarptent Models on 03/01/2013 09:44:02 MST Print View

Henry,

Will you be including a setup video of the CB3 when it's ready for market?

Henry Shires
(07100) - F - M
Re: Re: New 2013 Tarptent Models on 03/01/2013 09:56:08 MST Print View

> Will you be including a setup video of the CB3 when it's ready for market?

Yes, definitely.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: Re: New 2013 Tarptent Models on 03/01/2013 09:59:08 MST Print View

"> Will you be including a setup video of the CB3 when it's ready for market?

Yes, definitely."


Will you also be including a setup video while being really drunk for our Scottish friends?

Diplomatic Mike
(MikefaeDundee)

Locale: Under a bush in Scotland
@Doug on 03/01/2013 10:13:11 MST Print View

How very dare you sir!

Michael K
(chinookhead) - F - M
cludburst 3 on 03/01/2013 11:49:46 MST Print View

Wow! that Cloudburst 3 looks great to fulfill my present search for a light 2 person double walled 2 person palace . With my new Wide inflatable (synmat LW)....typical 2 person shelters don't really work. I just hope that it'll be reasonably priced.

Mary D
(hikinggranny) - MLife

Locale: Gateway to Columbia River Gorge
New 2013 Tarptent Models on 03/01/2013 12:12:35 MST Print View

I note that the Cloudburst 3 can add an optional hoop pole in the middle, making it a true tunnel tent. You may not have to wait for Roger's! It's also the same height the entire length.

Of course it's definitely heavier than the Rainshadow.

Edited by hikinggranny on 03/01/2013 12:16:03 MST.

Donna C
(leadfoot) - M

Locale: Middle Virginia
Re: New 2013 Tarptent Models on 03/01/2013 14:05:22 MST Print View

And I just bought the Contrail. I'm happy with that decision. : )

HK Newman
(hknewman) - MLife

Locale: Western US
Re: New 2013 Tarptent Models on 03/01/2013 14:47:38 MST Print View

Just when you thought it was safe for your credit card to go outside ...

Raymond Estrella
(rayestrella) - MLife

Locale: Northern Minnesota
New Tarptents on 03/01/2013 15:31:56 MST Print View

The CB3 looks pretty nice Henry. Love the center pole option.

"Wait. There's ALSO gear porn!?!!?! My late night web searches have been far too narrow..."

Travis you need to work on your search parameters.

Search: "girls with big tents"...

Charles P
(mediauras) - F

Locale: Terra
Re: New Tarptents on 03/01/2013 15:38:05 MST Print View

I predict serious thread drift from here on out.

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: Re: New Tarptents on 03/01/2013 16:09:27 MST Print View

HAHA!

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: Re: New Tarptents on 03/01/2013 16:22:59 MST Print View

Back on track boys and girls.

I think Mrs. M would find the Cloudburst 3 highly satisfactory.

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Melbourne
New 2013 Tarptent Models on 03/01/2013 19:23:38 MST Print View

Something else new from Tarptent.
you can now buy the Strato Spire 1 (20 oz) and 2 (25 oz) as "fly only"
$180 and $210
TT SS1
TT SS2

Edited by Franco on 03/01/2013 19:25:19 MST.

Paul McLaughlin
(paul) - MLife
Re: New 2013 Tarptent Models on 03/01/2013 19:29:50 MST Print View

Oh man, oh man. Fly only finally! If I could only get them in a bright color.

Jeffs Eleven
(WoodenWizard) - F

Locale: Greater Mt Tabor
Re: New 2013 Tarptent Models on 03/01/2013 19:31:52 MST Print View

You guys are killing me.

Is it wrong to want all of these?



Yes- can you say 'Goodbye Mutha Hubba- Hellooo CB3'?






Too bad its not CB4... I love that movie.
"Straight outta Low Cash, I'm kickin up the shit"

Heath Pitts
(heathpitts) - F

Locale: Nashville
Re: New 2013 Tarptent Models on 03/01/2013 21:04:56 MST Print View

Being able to buy the fly only might be the answer for people that dislike mid shelters due to the pole being in the center. I have the SS1 and it seems to help a lot with usable space

Edited by heathpitts on 03/01/2013 21:05:37 MST.

Alex Wallace
(FeetFirst) - F

Locale: Northern California
thumbs up on 03/02/2013 00:32:07 MST Print View

I had a surprise on my doorstep when I got home from work.

Tarptent DW

Tarptent DW open

I'm really looking forward to using it next weekend on the coast.

Edited by FeetFirst on 03/02/2013 00:47:46 MST.

ed hyatt
(edhyatt) - MLife

Locale: The North; UK
Moment DW weight on 03/04/2013 00:34:31 MST Print View

So what's the all-up weight Alex?


Henry

"The interior is 10 oz (10.1 actually), the fly + stakes + stuffsack is 34-10 = 20 oz. Of the 20 oz, the included arch pole is 6.5 ounces. The "crossing pole" is a 7-ounce option"


Perhaps it's the £/$ exchange rate but I make that 34 oz - around 960g - is that right?

Not that I need another tent....

cheers,

ed

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Moment DW size on 03/04/2013 06:16:38 MST Print View

Can we see a photo with a 25" wide pad and someone over 6" in there?

diego dean
(cfionthefly) - M
Re: Re: Moment DW size on 03/04/2013 08:04:17 MST Print View

Id also like to see two 77x25 inch pads with a long (6'6) bag in the CB 3. I think it should fit without ends touching. Also what size will the CB3 pack to?

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Re: Moment DW size on 03/04/2013 08:05:59 MST Print View

I would have called it, "The Death of Akto."

Henry Shires
(07100) - F - M
Re: Re: Moment DW size on 03/04/2013 08:32:34 MST Print View

> Can we see a photo with a 25" wide pad and someone over 6" in there?

I'll get one posted, at least the 25" x 77" pad. There are no changes to the floor length/width from the prior Moment so all previous long/wide pad photos or comments still apply. FWIW, I'm 5'11" and you can see me inside the standalone interior in the setup video.

-H

Edit - this photo now posted on the Moment DW page. Pad fits very well.

Moment DW - large/wide pad

Edited by 07100 on 03/04/2013 11:36:36 MST.

Henry Shires
(07100) - F - M
Re: Re: Re: Moment DW size on 03/04/2013 08:40:19 MST Print View

> Id also like to see two 77x25 inch pads with a long (6'6) bag in the CB 3. I think it should fit without ends touching. Also what size will the CB3 pack to?

Those will fit easily though photo proof will have to wait a couple of weeks as all prototype samples are now at our Seattle factory.

Packed size is currently 20" x 4.5 due to the folded arch pole length. Down the road a bit it will be 18" x 4.5" when our next pole shipment arrives. The body can be stuffed into whatever size/shape you want if you store the folded poles (currently 20") separately.

-H

diego dean
(cfionthefly) - M
Henry on 03/04/2013 09:01:16 MST Print View

Will the reduced poled length (20 inch to 18 inch) also apply to the Moment DW? Probably most dont care, but I have found the shorter the better for thinks like bikepacking.

Henry Shires
(07100) - F - M
Re: Henry on 03/04/2013 09:04:44 MST Print View

> Will the reduced poled length (20 inch to 18 inch) also apply to the Moment DW? Probably most dont care, but I have found the shorter the better for thinks like bikepacking.

Yes, same. Just waiting for the next pole shipment. We have already made the switch on the Rainbow and Double Rainbow.

-H

Eric Blumensaadt
(Danepacker) - MLife

Locale: Mojave Desert
TT Moment for winter on 03/05/2013 15:56:15 MST Print View

The new TT Moment with a "solid" inner tent will make a nice solo winter tent. I can wait for it and then sell my current Gen 1 Moment, crossing pole and liner.

(Of course I'll have to mod the new Moment with an inner crossing pole beneath the fly! ;o)

With either the factory outer crossing pole or a modded interior crossing pole this Moment DW will be far more winter-worthy than the Hilleberg Akto in terms of being able to withstand wind and snow loads.

Yeah, five or six more ounces but that outweighs the advantages it offers.

Edited by Danepacker on 03/06/2013 16:44:26 MST.

ed hyatt
(edhyatt) - MLife

Locale: The North; UK
Moment DW; How much does it weigh? on 03/06/2013 15:51:10 MST Print View

I'll try again....

Henry

"The interior is 10 oz (10.1 actually), the fly + stakes + stuffsack is 34-10 = 20 oz. Of the 20 oz, the included arch pole is 6.5 ounces. The "crossing pole" is a 7-ounce option"


Perhaps it's the £/$ exchange rate but I make that 34 oz - around 960g - is that right?

Checked and that seems to concur with the website weight?

If you have run up a 'Scarp type' inner - how much (provisionally) did that weigh?

Edited by edhyatt on 03/06/2013 15:51:47 MST.

Eric Blumensaadt
(Danepacker) - MLife

Locale: Mojave Desert
Re: Solid Inner on 03/06/2013 16:52:15 MST Print View

Henry,

When deciding on the best venting for a solid interior try putting colored smoke inside the tent, then turn on a big fan and see which version vents the smoke out best with the least area of mesh.

You may not need mesh on the roof area, just high on the sides.

wiiawiwb wiiawiwb
(wiiawiwb) - F
Cloudburst 3 height? on 03/13/2013 15:37:56 MDT Print View

I was looking at TT's website and can't seem to find the height. Anyone know?

Henry Shires
(07100) - F - M
Re: Re: Solid Inner on 03/13/2013 16:13:08 MDT Print View

> When deciding on the best venting for a solid interior try putting colored smoke inside the tent

Good idea. I'll shoot an email over to the Vatican to see how they make theirs -- when the white smoke comes out I'll know it's done.

Henry Shires
(07100) - F - M
Re: Cloudburst 3 height? on 03/13/2013 16:18:40 MDT Print View

About 41" to the center seam. The optional liner takes about 2" off of that.

-H

Jan S
(karl-ton)
Re: Re: Re: Solid Inner on 03/13/2013 16:20:56 MDT Print View

"I'll shoot an email over to the Vatican to see how they make theirs"

Here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_conclave#Post-scrutiny (last sentence in the paragraph)

You might need to experiment with the right mixture a bit though.

Charles P
(mediauras) - F

Locale: Terra
impressions? on 03/13/2013 16:21:19 MDT Print View

Anybody (Alex Wallace?) have a chance to take the Moment DW out yet?

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: impressions? on 03/13/2013 16:39:15 MDT Print View

I really like the look of the CB3, it would be perfect for bringing the wife on trips as she likes tents with lots of space.

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: Re: impressions? on 03/13/2013 17:29:46 MDT Print View

Stephen,

The CB3 is the first tent ever that my wife would consider trading for our Double Rainbow.

I dig it too.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: Re: Re: impressions? on 03/13/2013 17:54:21 MDT Print View

Nice one Travis,

I will have to save up my pennies.

Stuart .
(lotuseater) - M

Locale: Where the air is thin
Re: Re: Re: Re: impressions? on 03/13/2013 22:41:54 MDT Print View

Uh-oh, Stephen. That'd be 5 shelters and counting. I have to agree with you, the CB3 looks like a 3 season, maybe 3.5 season Hilleberg killer. If the Kaitum and the Anjan had a love-child, it'd be the CB3, albeit with different skintones.

Anthony Britner
(ant89) - F - M

Locale: North Wales, UK
Moment on 03/14/2013 12:17:31 MDT Print View

I like the new Moment. I like the fact a solid inner will be on the way. The only big thing I'd prefer on it is a flysheet that goes to ground- but maybe that's just me.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: impressions? on 03/14/2013 14:55:20 MDT Print View

Stuart,

Don't you know if its for use with the wife it counts as household gear, and so comes out of the household budget ;-)

Stuart .
(lotuseater) - M

Locale: Where the air is thin
Household budget on 03/14/2013 16:29:34 MDT Print View

That doesn't fly in my household. Nice arrangement :-)

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: Household budget on 03/14/2013 17:14:19 MDT Print View

Sure it keeps me out of trouble :-)

Benjamin Auer
(mankind117) - M
Impressions of the new moment. on 03/25/2013 10:59:32 MDT Print View

I got the new moment this last Friday and took it out this weekend on the AT in Maryland. I will post pictures later but so far I am impressed. I'm really tall and I actually fit ok. Height wise it could be taller but that is most tents. I'm 6'6" and with no pad inside I can just sit up straight. Length size it is plenty long enough since the fly is well away from the ends of the inner. This weekend I had no trouble fitting in a large neo-air xtherm and still had room for most of my things inside with the pack (x-large ula catalyst) in the vestibule. The the freestanding feature works ok with the extra pole. I was able to set it up in my living room with the optional pole. I would say the freestanding feature works better than the scarp with I have used as well. I think with the solid inner that will hopefully be released later this would make an excellent winter tent. It was interesting as somebody else I was with this weekend had a notch. The new moment is basically a notch with the arch pole instead of the trekking poles. Overall the notch had a little more headroom and bigger vestibules but the moment double wall has more floor space inside with the ability to be freestanding if you had to pitch it on some place where staking is hard. This will probably be my new go to tent. I'm looking forward to using it in winter the a solid inner and the crossing pole. It will mean a lot less fiddling of pounding a lot of stakes into frozen ground.

Eric Blumensaadt
(Danepacker) - MLife

Locale: Mojave Desert
"Smoke & mirrors"... on 03/25/2013 23:57:07 MDT Print View

Henry,

OK, OK so my smoke idea sounds wacky. But, hey, how else are you going to find out which mesh/ripstop configuration works best?

Bless you my Son. May all your venting be successful.

Yours, "Waiting for the White Smoke" Eric

Alex Wallace
(FeetFirst) - F

Locale: Northern California
Re: impressions? on 03/29/2013 00:02:38 MDT Print View

"Anybody (Alex Wallace?) have a chance to take the Moment DW out yet?"

Charles,

Luckily, I was able to sneak in a 48 hour trip to the foothills in northern California using the new Moment DW. I'll post a more thorough review with pictures soon, but in the meantime know that the DW (aka version 2) is better, more refined, in every way compared to version 1. This is MY perfect shelter. Temps dipped below freezing and I had light snow flurries in the early AM and this shelter sat rock solid with no condensation to deal with. Oh yeah, it's also still nice to only worry about two, four tops, anchor points.

Charles P
(mediauras) - F

Locale: Terra
Re: Re: impressions? on 04/02/2013 12:39:00 MDT Print View

Awesome, thank you for that. Mine's on order, hopefully I'll get it this week or next. I can't wait to take it out.

Tim Zen
(asdzxc57) - F

Locale: MI
Re: New 2013 Tarptent Models on 04/02/2013 19:07:07 MDT Print View

Moment -- looks like the condensation will be less, but getting close to my double rainbow in weight.

Franco -- how do you get these tents so fast?

todd harper
(funnymoney) - MLife

Locale: Sunshine State
Re: Re: New 2013 Tarptent Models on 04/02/2013 19:18:59 MDT Print View

Franco sells them for Tarptent.

Stuart .
(lotuseater) - M

Locale: Where the air is thin
Re: New 2013 Tarptent Models on 04/02/2013 20:19:38 MDT Print View

It might be splitting hairs, but I think Franco has said that while he represents TarpTent in Australia, all orders are placed with and fulfilled by Henry and the US organization.

Speaking of which, either Franco or Henry, do you have an update on the CloudBurst 3 launch date? The website's still reading "Shipping late March 2013". Quite a few folks here are watching with bated breath.

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Melbourne
New 2013 Tarptent Models on 04/02/2013 21:18:00 MDT Print View

How do I get them so fast ?
Henry was playing with the CB 3 about two years ago and I still have not seen one.
Do you call that fast ?

BTW, yes Stuart is correct. I don't sell them I seal them.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: New 2013 Tarptent Models on 04/07/2013 14:20:59 MDT Print View

It's past late March. Any update on the CB3?

Stuart .
(lotuseater) - M

Locale: Where the air is thin
Cloudburst 3 on 04/08/2013 10:36:53 MDT Print View

Henry updated the website this morning. Looks like the basic configuration of the CB3 will run $319, shipping 'mid April', although no way to place an order yet.

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: Cloudburst 3 on 04/08/2013 10:40:06 MDT Print View

$319 appears to be a good price.

Henry, Franco, or anyone... I have an old extra Double Rainbow pole. Can I use this for the center pole on the CB3? If so, would I have to add or subtract a pole section?

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: Cloudburst 3 on 04/08/2013 10:44:31 MDT Print View

Don't know about the double rainbow pole, but the CB3 sells with two poles, adding the third pole is extra ($13 if I remember correctly).

Henry Shires
(07100) - F - M
Re: Re: Cloudburst 3 on 04/08/2013 13:24:09 MDT Print View

> I have an old extra Double Rainbow pole. Can I use this for the center pole on the CB3? If so, would I have to add or subtract a pole section?

The Rainbow poles are 144" and the Cloudburst poles are 120". It is certainly possible to remove sections but you will also want to a) trim an existing section--regular tube cutters are a few dollars from the hardware store-- and b) shorten/trim the shock cord before reinserting the tip.

-H

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: Re: Re: Cloudburst 3 on 04/08/2013 13:30:43 MDT Print View

Awesome. Thanks Henry.

Danny Milks
(dannymilks) - MLife

Locale: Sierras
Caffin-syle poles on Cloudburst 3 on 04/15/2013 14:50:05 MDT Print View

I think the Cloudburst 3 looks fantastic. Not much heavier than the double rainbow, but much more space and stability!

I wonder if poles (like Roger Caffin uses) would fit into the sleeves of the Cloudburst 3? Straight poles with 3 corners, so the pole bending radius is not so severe, and so that there is a defined 'point' at the tent's apex (rather than a flat spot as is inherent in every hooped tent design).

Roger Caffin Tent
Roger Caffin's legendary tent design. Photo credit, Roger Caffin, from bushwalking.org.au .

Alex Wallace
(FeetFirst) - F

Locale: Northern California
TarpTent Moment DW on 05/28/2013 12:33:51 MDT Print View

I'm happy to report that the TarpTent Moment DW is treating me very well. I've been able to use it on four trips now and I'm really impressed. Last weekend I used it on the west slope of the Sierra (Desolation Wilderness)and really appreciated the easy setup and wind shedding capabilities.

TarpTent Moment DW at Lyons Lake

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: Caffin-syle poles on Cloudburst 3 on 05/28/2013 14:18:28 MDT Print View

Danny,
I highly doubt that poles with any bend will work in the CB3. The design appears to rely on a consistent curve. But who knows!?

Tanner M
(Tan68)
Rainbow comment on 05/30/2013 03:48:05 MDT Print View

I closed up the ends and sides of a Double Rainbow.

I sewed light nylon over the mesh up about 18" or so on the sides. I wanted a warmer tent. On a quite windy night I could feel no drafts on me. So, it works...

I wasn't really able to close up the corners very well. There are little gaps. I added the nylon to reduce drafts. I couldn't feel any, but I wonder if the little gaps created a slight chimney effect.

Since doing this to your tent, I have had the tent out one night at 22* in the tent, quite humid weather, and no condensation. This night was not terribly windy. The windy night was rainy.

Has anyone thought about a small, small vent low to work with vents high..?

I didn't have the heart to cut the mesh out from behind the panels I sewed in place. The mesh still bears the weight; I made sure my nylon is looser. If anyone else cares to try, I sewed all my panels onto the outside. Doing it again, the side panels on the outside are okay but I would definitely sew the end panels on the inside. Just easier to make the corner.

I also think the 18" pole sections will be easier for packing..


" Yes, though it may have to wait until later summer. Our production team is pretty slammed. I'm thinking it will be more Scarp/StratoSpire style--all solid with mesh vents at top of doors--than the open mesh roof style on the Notch interior but I'm opening to lobbying and good beer ;-) "

Edited by Tan68 on 05/30/2013 04:09:43 MDT.

Christopher Yi
(TRAUMAhead)

Locale: Cen Cal
. on 07/27/2013 22:43:08 MDT Print View

Any ETA on the partial solid inner for the Moment DW?

Eric Blumensaadt
(Danepacker) - MLife

Locale: Mojave Desert
Moment DW ripstop inner on 07/27/2013 23:57:44 MDT Print View

I talked to Henry early this month and he said August. They were working on the final details for production when we talked.

Can't wait! Finally a 4 season Moment. (Of course I'll have to mod it to make it "winterized" to my preferences. :o)

Brock Graves
(gravesbrock) - F

Locale: asheville nc
Moment dw on 09/25/2013 20:27:16 MDT Print View

Just put my order in with the solid inner today. Will add pictures as soon as it comes in!