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Seth Brewer
(Whistler) - MLife

Locale: www.peaksandvalleys.weebly.com
Fill weight of : WM Men's Hooded Flash (L) vs. MH Hooded Ghost Whisperer (L) on 02/20/2013 20:21:11 MST Print View

My large Ghost is 8 oz. , my large Flash is 12 oz. both 2012/2013 models. The Ghost fits better (enough room to layer, but not huge in the chest) but the Flash gets such good reviews and seems to have more down....Anyone have an idea about fill weights (WM says "average" fill is 3 oz. for the Flash hooded), no info on the Ghost hooded...

michael levi
(M.L) - F

Locale: W-Never Eat Soggy (W)affles
re on 02/20/2013 20:33:27 MST Print View

There is a long thread of the ghost whisper around here. Fill weight is in there.

The flash has a better fill weight / total weight. But the ghost is pretty good given that it has less down. I think it has around 3 oz.

Edited by M.L on 02/20/2013 20:36:42 MST.

Seth Brewer
(Whistler) - MLife

Locale: www.peaksandvalleys.weebly.com
Thanks Michael on 02/20/2013 20:47:30 MST Print View

I'll look for the thread...must have missed it

Tommy Franzen
(Tomlike) - F

Locale: Pacific Wonderland
flash/ghost whisperer on 02/20/2013 21:47:55 MST Print View

WM Flash: 3oz. 850 down, 10.25oz average weight
MH Ghost Whisperer: 2.78oz 850 down, 7.5oz average weight

I'm interested to see how the MH fits, and it has a single pull hem drawcord, something the WM does not. The Flash has a down filled draft tube behind the zipper which might account for the difference in weight. I'm not sure that's really needed as I usually will have a wind jacket on over my insulating layer.

Serge G.
(sgiachetti) - M

Locale: Boulder, CO
ghost vs. flash on 02/20/2013 23:44:40 MST Print View

The ghost whisperer is also well reviewed:
http://www.outdoorgearlab.com/Down-Jacket-Reviews/Mountain-Hardwear-Hooded-Ghost-Whisperer

http://www.gearinstitute.com/hiking/item/mountain-hardwear-ghost-whisperer-hooded-down-jacket

http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/gear-features/gear-of-the-year---four-that-got-away/10477.html

and more chatter here on bpl:
http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=67826&disable_pagination=1

Are you considering which to keep?

Considering they serve a similar function and will likely keep you warm to a similar tempt (slight edge to WM), I'd go with the MH at 4 oz lighter. Your flash is considerably over spec, so I bet at least some of that is down. Either way, we're still talking about 2-3 season insulation pieces.

Also, as mentioned elsewhere, the ghost will have hydrophic fill soon. The hoodless version already does: http://www.mountainhardwear.com/Men%27s-Ghost-Whispererâ„¢-Down-Jacket/OM5678,default,pd.html&colorID=293

Edited by sgiachetti on 02/20/2013 23:46:53 MST.

Tommy Franzen
(Tomlike) - F

Locale: Pacific Wonderland
Ghost Whisperer on 02/21/2013 12:50:23 MST Print View

Last year's model of the Ghost Whisperer can also be had for 40-50% off right now, so that seems like the better jacket all around

Seth Brewer
(Whistler) - MLife

Locale: www.peaksandvalleys.weebly.com
Fit on 02/21/2013 12:52:41 MST Print View

It came down to fit for me. I have a small/medium chest with arms that need a large jacket for length -- and the WM is very roomy in the chest (too roomy for me) and the Ghost fits more snuggly (with room to layer still). Both good pieces, both top quality from looking them over.