I Take Back Everything I ever said about the REI Flash 45
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Luke Schmidt
(Cameron) - MLife

Locale: The WOODS
I Take Back Everything I ever said about the REI Flash 45 on 02/15/2013 17:17:43 MST Print View

Okay so I finally got to look at a Flash 45 in person today...

I officially take back everything good I've ever said about this pack. From the specs I'd assumed it would have a somewhat stiff frame. It does not. The "frame" is barely stiffer then the foam back panel on a Golite Jam. This is not the breakthrough design I'd hoped for. If you like the current Jam you might like the REI but its not a true internal frame pack.

What a disappointment I was thinking we had a $140 pack that weighed 2 pounds and could actually carry some weight.

Jake D
(JakeDatc) - F

Locale: Bristol,RI
Re: I Take Back Everything I ever said about the REI Flash 45 on 02/15/2013 18:41:56 MST Print View

Find an Exos 46/58 on sale and you'd have something in that weight and price range. I got mine for 155.. fairly close.

I also tried on the REI flash when I was looking at them and even empty it felt uncomfortable for me so it was quickly taken off the list.

Mark Andrews
(buldogge) - F

Locale: Midwest
What about... on 02/15/2013 19:19:44 MST Print View

Lowe Alpine Zepton 50 @ STP? Lose the lid and you'd be real close to 2#...~$100 with the right code.

???

I bought the Nanon 35:40 awhile back, which is ~6 oz. heavier...FWIW.

-Mark in St. Louis

Steve Meier
(smeier) - MLife

Locale: Midwest
I like it on 02/15/2013 19:23:16 MST Print View

I like the frame on the new REI Flash 45. I think it is stiff enough vertically stay comfortable in the 25-30 range but has enough flexibility from side to side that it moves with your stride. I think the pack does that its meant to for REI and fills the true lightweight spot in their line-up.

Ben 2 World
(ben2world) - MLife

Locale: So Cal
Like It -- Don't Like It... on 02/15/2013 19:53:10 MST Print View

Just goes to show how "personal" a pack experience can be. Almost like buying shoes -- sometimes, you just can't tell until you've tried it.

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Flash 45 details on 02/15/2013 20:33:59 MST Print View

I read that the Flash 45 has an aluminum head rail and Delrin rods, sounding much like an Osprey Hornet.

Are the rods well anchored to the waist belt?
Are the rods too flexible and if so, could they be placed with something like aluminum tubing?

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: I Take Back Everything I ever said about the REI Flash 45 on 02/15/2013 20:43:26 MST Print View

Buy an HMG pack. All 2lbs or under with very stiff stays (now) and varying sized and options. Bomber material and multiple sizes. More expensive but then you get something that works.

Raymond Estrella
(rayestrella) - MLife

Locale: Northern Minnesota
I Take Back Everything on 02/16/2013 20:27:16 MST Print View

"Okay so I finally got to look at a Flash 45 in person today...

I officially take back everything good I've ever said about this pack. From the specs I'd assumed..."

And that is why we like informed opinions. Not spec sheet guess-work.

;-)

Luke Schmidt
(Cameron) - MLife

Locale: The WOODS
Clarification on 02/16/2013 20:32:36 MST Print View

"And that is why we like informed opinions. Not spec sheet guess-work"

I never claimed to have much knowledge of it. I pointed several people shopping for packs toward this one as a possible option but at that point it was brand new and I hadn't been able to look at one. I also told people I hadn't used it and they should check it out for themselves.

Edited by Cameron on 02/16/2013 21:53:44 MST.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Clarification on 02/17/2013 09:40:26 MST Print View

Luke, I think you should have left your comment about the Porter in your post. It is in a completely different league.

Luke Schmidt
(Cameron) - MLife

Locale: The WOODS
Re Re Clarification on 02/17/2013 13:26:13 MST Print View

I forgot what I said about the Porter David. I tried a Porter once that did not fit (torso too short). But I would agree its in a different league. With a proper fit I'm sure I could carry 40 pounds in the Porter and possibly more. It's frame is way stiffer.

Tyler Miller
(FightingTheTide) - F - M

Locale: Southeast
Re: Re: Flash 45 details on 03/20/2013 17:15:42 MDT Print View

Dale, this is really late, but I just bought a Flash 45 today and can answer your question (if you are still wondering).

The rods do not anchor directly to the waist belt. However, the design is very effective at transferring load to the hips. The rods have their own "pockets" at the bottom of the pack, and the webbing for the waist belt attaches directly to that "pocket". The webbing is separate from the actual waist belt padding (it slides between the padding and the pocket). Does that make sense? I can take a picture if you would like. It seems to remove a need for waist belt stabilizers since the belt pulls straight on the rods.

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Re: Re: Flash 45 details on 03/20/2013 19:15:33 MDT Print View

Tyler,

Thanks for the update. It makes sense. I'll have to take a look the next time I'm at REI (I get distracted.....)

You should write up a review with pictures and arrows :)