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Justin McCabe
(justinmc) - M

Locale: Southern California
Convertible Down Blanket W/Snaps-Genius? Superfluous? on 02/08/2013 17:13:03 MST Print View

Stumbled on this from a Japanese hiking blog (evidence of my Friday work boredom).

Is this superfluous? Innovative? Old news?

I'm intrigued.

7.65 oz.Down Blanket w/snapsTake your sleeping system lowerConverts Well.Children's Down Pants? =)Granny Style

The original blog post is here (use google translate):http://bah.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2012/01/bellemaison.html

spelt !
(spelt) - F

Locale: SW/C PA
re on 02/08/2013 18:27:42 MST Print View

Dude, I like it! The downside I see is that keeping it small enough to be used on arms and legs means it's too small to give true poncho coverage.

tyler marlow
(like.sisyphus) - F

Locale: UTAH
Thats awesome! on 02/08/2013 18:39:17 MST Print View

So versatile, great for those in-between-season trips where you need a little extra warmth.

Or, when you are anxious about being warm enough

I want one!

Justin McCabe
(justinmc) - M

Locale: Southern California
Re: Convertible Down Blanket W/Snaps-Genius? Superfluous? on 02/08/2013 20:53:40 MST Print View

I see Tim Marshall getting a call about a customer job....

Eugene Smith
(Eugeneius) - MLife

Locale: Nuevo Mexico
Re: Re: Convertible Down Blanket W/Snaps-Genius? Superfluous? on 02/08/2013 21:16:42 MST Print View

If you can effectively work it into your kit, then it's genius! I would find it fussy. It could be handy stuffed down in the bottom of a bag or quilt, stuffed around the collar region, for a little extra warmth.

Cool blog link btw, the Japanese UL'ers possess a seriously meticulous outdoor style. They seem to put significant effort into the details/outward appearance of their clothing and gear systems, on a level unlike what you see here in the states.

Martin Clark
(Marty_Mcfly) - F

Locale: Southeast US
Creater on 02/08/2013 21:16:51 MST Print View

Is a answer japanese UL hiker. I've been following him on instagram and flickr and he also utilizes a down skirt during the colder months for 4+ season hiking. In general he and his friends (jotaro of Locus gear) seem to currently be aligned with some of the nordic backpackers at the edge of innovation in the Ul backpacking world

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Convertible Down Blanket W/Snaps-Genius? Superfluous? on 02/08/2013 22:55:17 MST Print View

Good outside the box thinking. It seems to be a way to extend a sleeping bag and get some clothing value out of it. In similar veins, Jacks R Better has made down sleeves and a quilt with a head hole to allow use as a serape. The latter version is the best example of multiple use, IMHO.

As it would be used in camp, I would make it larger; if it was a little big for legs or arms, it could be drawn up a bit. I like the cape idea and a skirt might work well for the bottom option. It would have to be pretty cold to need that on top of all the other down. That's where I see the quilt-as-serape to be a better bet.

A quilt sized as shown may have some use for a hammock underquilt. There are all kinds of places to go with that.

Tom Lyons
(towaly) - F

Locale: Smoky Mtns.
re. on 02/09/2013 05:23:33 MST Print View

It's good thinking.

I think that some/many of us use our quilts or sleeping bags for a wrap/cape around the upper torso when it's cold and we are at camp. At least, that's what I do.
That's why I don't carry a down jacket with me. I use the sleeping bag for that use at camp.

But, this blanket with snaps brings some additional versatility, with the down sleeves and leg warmers.
However, this versatility introduces some other limitations, such as it then becomes too small to actually be the sleeping bag or quilt, and so you must then carry this AND the sleeping bag.
So, unless you could reduce the weight of your bag or quilt by the amount of weight in this blanket, you may not be really getting much benefit in terms of weight.

I like the idea. I think it could be further developed to overcome most/all the limitations.

Thom Darrah
(thomdarrah) - MLife

Locale: Southern Oregon
Convertible Down Blanket on 02/09/2013 05:56:10 MST Print View

I developed a similar concept (nearly two years ago) and took it as far as prototype testing. Sent one to Jamie Shortt to test and field tested one myself. I liked the basic concept, Jamie not as much. I think the design concept has merit as it can be worn as an insulation layer and opened up to provide added warmth to a users UL sleep system. With Jamie's input I made the decision to not develope the concept further but it was a fun project.

Edited by thomdarrah on 02/09/2013 06:17:49 MST.

josh wagner
(StainlessSteel) - F
blackrock on 02/09/2013 09:31:03 MST Print View

is that guy rocking 2 different blackrock hats?

i'm sure that extra insulation could really be nice sitting around at camp. you could essentially take a lighter down jacket than you'd normally have to, and rely on the quilt. it'd also be nice getting up to take the morning wizz and make coffee. that's the WORST!

Rusty Beaver
(rustyb) - F

Locale: Rocky Mountains
Re: Re: Re: Convertible Down Blanket W/Snaps-Genius? Superfluous? on 02/09/2013 10:16:10 MST Print View

"Cool blog link btw, the Japanese UL'ers possess a seriously meticulous outdoor style. They seem to put significant effort into the details/outward appearance of their clothing and gear systems, on a level unlike what you see here in the states".

Yes, that's what I've noticed too.

Say, on another note, how does one translate a page like that?

Hendrik Morkel
(skullmonkey) - MLife

Locale: Finland
Chrome on 02/09/2013 11:57:16 MST Print View

OT: @Rusty, if you use Google Chrome as your browser it will automatically ask you if it should translate the page for you to English. Very useful!

Justin McCabe
(justinmc) - M

Locale: Southern California
Re: Chrome on 02/09/2013 15:52:42 MST Print View

I use Chrome as well, it's integrated translator opens up amazing possibilities to read some really great Japanese and German UL blogs.

I agree Rusty, the Japanese have an amazing eye for detail, which makes many of their products aesthetically beautiful as well as functional (Jotaro's products over at Locus gear is an amazing example).

As far as the down blanket goes, I agree with the exception of using it to take your sleep system a little lower, it would be hard to justify, unless it is to replace a puffy or down pants, which I think we all love too much.

So maybe this is destined to be placed on the "luxury" category, but still might find a way into my pack....

Andy Jarman
(AndyJarman) - M

Locale: Edge of the World
Did you read the weight of it though? on 02/09/2013 17:24:53 MST Print View

It's more than 2kilos isn't it? 4.5lbs. Wonder why? Looks like down.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Did you read the weight of it though? on 02/09/2013 19:04:21 MST Print View

216.5 grams

7.63 oz

Edited by kthompson on 02/09/2013 19:05:42 MST.

Justin McCabe
(justinmc) - M

Locale: Southern California
Re: Did you read the weight of it though? on 02/09/2013 19:18:30 MST Print View

Andy,

ken is right.

I think you might be thinking of the "convertible lead blanket w/snaps" that ULers in the South are forced to carry during hunting season =)

Rusty Beaver
(rustyb) - F

Locale: Rocky Mountains
Re: Chrome on 02/09/2013 20:13:50 MST Print View

Thanks, Hendrick and Justin. I downloaded Chrome and translated.