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John Donewar
(Newton) - MLife

Locale: Southeastern Louisiana
Men's Cajun Fairy Tale on 02/12/2013 22:02:11 MST Print View

Boudreaux and Clotile are long time married.

While attending a party Clotile spots an old boyfriend on the dance floor laughing, smiling and generally having a great time.

Clotile points him out to Boudreaux and informs her husband of many years that the old boyfriend is a doctor and has plenty of money. She further informs Boudreaux that she chose to marry Boudreaux instead of the doctor. She asks Boudreaux what he thinks about that fact.

Boudreaux casts an eye towards the doctor on the dance floor and says, "It looks like he is still celebrating." ;-)

Party On,

Newton

Daryl Daryl
(lyrad1) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest, USA, Earth
I'm Out on 02/12/2013 22:04:03 MST Print View

I'm cancelling my BPL membership after that one. (the half time football one)

Edited by lyrad1 on 02/13/2013 09:29:11 MST.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
True story on 02/12/2013 22:27:40 MST Print View

A while back I figured out that I have been with Renee for more than half my life. Upon informing her of this milestone, her response was, "I'm so sorry."



Good one Newton!

Cesar Valdez
(PrimeZombie) - F

Locale: Scandinavia
Now I'm a troll? Another big surprise. on 02/13/2013 01:57:46 MST Print View

"As for you Caesar, I would have thought at the wise age of 32 you could keep your trolling off of a rare and precious joke thread at bpl!"

First of all it's Cesar, not Caesar. Next, I find it amusing that now I am a troll. I mean, I get it, it's easier to disregard a dissenting opinion if you just turn them into an "other" by just calling them a troll.

It's simple really. I am opposed to dominant culture's sexist stereotypes of women. I understand that this is not very popular, and that everyone will just appeal to the cop-out of "but it's just funny ha ha jokes" or whatever. As a minority myself, I am more sensitive to these issues of Otherness and can't help but speak out against them. This does not mean, I would add, that I am "offended" by this thread--it is very difficult indeed to offend me as a direct result of people attempting to.

This thread reminds me of gym locker room conversations when I was back in high school and the jocks would tell racist Mexican jokes. When I called them on it, I got told the exact same thing as here. Predictable, really. That I have no sense of humor. Then when I fired back with my sense of humor, often someone else (much like you, Samuel) would then call me weird or an a-hole or whatever. If you would like a real example of this if you don't take my word for it, go and check out this website: http://www.mexicanjokes.net. You will note that on the top of this website it clearly states, "Not racist, just funny!" --because just falling back on a bare assertion fallacy makes everything okay right?

Look, I fully support the right for you guys to have your little misogynist, bro-high-fiving thread. Tell all the "funny jokes" you want. But I am also entitled to voice my opinions of them, i.e. that they are sexist and generally not funny. It's not like you guys are being avant-garde and/or challenging social conventions in a positive or ironic way like say Lenny Bruce, Chris Rock, David Cross, and Joe Rogan do (I am a fan of all of those guys btw). It's canned jokes cut and pasted from emails, as David admitted earlier. And by the way, I found the joke that I contributed by Googling "bad jokes" and cut and pasting it from some bad joke website.

I guess this is the part where you either double-down on calling me a troll and/or pour on the insults and ad hom fallacies, if this predictable trend continues.

"We now return you to our regularly scheduled program..."

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Melbourne
Men's Fairy Tale on 02/13/2013 03:27:32 MST Print View

Cesar
"As a minority myself"
I lived in 4 different countries and worked/socialised with all sorts of people, and I mean races,nationalities,religions,sexual preferences and so on, yes even with the Irish.
Inevitably the ones I did not get along with are the ones that make a big deal out of nothing...
Believe me every person in this planet is a "minority" somewhere .
Now put up that "minority" flag and wave it about and you are just inviting criticism and making your life more difficult than it needs to be.
How about you start seeing yourself just like everyone else ?

BTW, there is a difference between telling a joke and living that joke, pity you can't see that.

As I mentioned before, the best Jewish jokes (making fun of the stereotypical Jewish characters) are told by Jews.
No they are not being racist, just having a good laugh at themselves.
Not long ago in fact I posted here some comments from one Terence Milligan (Spike) that some thought were offensive towards the Irish and they were..except that they don't come any more Irish than Spike.

Have a laugh at yourself too , it's not going to kill you, in fact you may just live longer by doing so.

Franco
Land Rights For Gay Whales

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Melbourne
Fairy Tale on 02/13/2013 03:43:14 MST Print View

Cesar,
Just in case you still have no idea of what I am talking about...
have a look at some of the Daffyd Thomas (Matt Lucas) sketches in Little Britain.

Cesar Valdez
(PrimeZombie) - F

Locale: Scandinavia
Re: Men's Fairy Tale on 02/13/2013 04:34:02 MST Print View

"I lived in 4 different countries and worked/socialised with all sorts of people, and I mean races,nationalities,religions,sexual preferences and so on, yes even with the Irish."

...Good for you, I guess?

"Inevitably the ones I did not get along with are the ones that make a big deal out of nothing..."

Because open discourse and posting a difference of opinions on a forum is a big deal. A very. Big. Deal.

"Believe me every person in this planet is a "minority" somewhere."

And believe me when I tell you that pointing out the obvious is obvious. Not that this point is relevant, seeing as this forum is comprised mostly--correct me if I am wrong--of Western white males.

"Now put up that "minority" flag and wave it about and you are just inviting criticism and making your life more difficult than it needs to be."

All I did was mention how I could relate this thread to past experiences, and this is flag waving? Talk about making a big deal out of nothing. Pot meet kettle. And I fail to see how my life is more difficult. Again, this is just words man. On an obscure backpacking website.

"How about you start seeing yourself just like everyone else ?"

How and when did I state that I was not like everyone else? I only spoke for myself and my experiences. My existence has certain unique details that influence my perception, as does all individuals. To deny this and try and appeal to some BS "we are all one" type essence is just silly. I would encourage you to stop speaking in tired platitudes and actually address the issues raised. Or crack more bad jokes.

"BTW, there is a difference between telling a joke and living that joke, pity you can't see that."

Thank you for your insight and your pity. I will do my best to try and ruminate on such sage advice, though as you have pointed out, I can't see it just yet, but I am trying. Perhaps you can elaborate further on exactly how it is that one differentiates between telling and living a joke?

"As I mentioned before, the best Jewish jokes (making fun of the stereotypical Jewish characters) are told by Jews.
No they are not being racist, just having a good laugh at themselves."

First of all, the majority of the jokes cracked in this thread are by men about women. Next, it's all about context, isn't it? You would have to give us a specific example rather than make broad generalizations about the entirety of Jewish jokes told by Jews. I would imagine some are challenging stereotypes by being ironic, while others are perpetuating them. And by the way, just because someone from a particular minority group is okay with potentially racist/sexist/bigoted jokes does not make it alright, as I have already pointed out. There are documented cases of Jewish anti-semites, for example: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/14/csanad-szegedi-jewish_n_1776617.html

I was not okay with Carlos Mencia cracking racist jokes against his own ethnicity and others, for example Asians. Not to mention that he was not really breaking new ground with his comedy, and that I just didn't find his jokes funny.

"Not long ago in fact I posted here some comments from one Terence Milligan (Spike) that some thought were offensive towards the Irish and they were..except that they don't come any more Irish than Spike."

I have already explained that I am not offended by this thread, for one. Next, it is again about context, and if the jokes are actually funny or not.

"Have a laugh at yourself too , it's not going to kill you, in fact you may just live longer by doing so."

How exactly have you determined that I don't have laughs at myself? You don't know me or have ever met me as far as I can tell. As to living longer, science has already debunked that whole positive thinking BS. I recommend you read a book called "Bright-sided: How the Relentless Promotion of Positive Thinking Has Undermined America" along with many other studies that have evidence to suggest that being grumpy may contribute to living longer, for example: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1224701/Forgas-Grumpy-good--scientists-bad-moods-improve-memory.html#axzz2KmIACtFY

and another example: http://www.livelongerpost.com/grumpy-people-live-longer-since-they-are-more-apt-to-cope-with-crisis-research-says/

Have a nice day :)

Cesar Valdez
(PrimeZombie) - F

Locale: Scandinavia
Re: Fairy Tale on 02/13/2013 04:39:55 MST Print View

"Cesar,
Just in case you still have no idea of what I am talking about...
have a look at some of the Daffyd Thomas (Matt Lucas) sketches in Little Britain."

No thank you. I have seen the show and didn't like it or think it was funny. And no, I was not offended by it either. Also, what does this example have to do with the content of this thread, specifically?

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: Men's Fairy Tale on 02/13/2013 04:54:26 MST Print View

Hey Franco, leave us Irish and the gay whales out of it ;-)

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: Re: Men's Fairy Tale on 02/13/2013 05:16:46 MST Print View

So a gay Irish whale walks into a bar...






(hey, we can type "gay" now without the filter blocking it. The whales will be so happy!)

Edited by T.L. on 02/13/2013 05:40:02 MST.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Men's Fairy Tale on 02/13/2013 06:24:07 MST Print View

It's Chaff. Wear you thick skin as anything goes.

"Unrelated to any of the forums above. No rules regarding the topic. Opinions, politics, the benefits of heavy gear, you name it. Please, no commercial posts, and NO SPAM. Courtesy is monitored in the other forums. In this one, you may need some thick skin to play with the big dogs."

This was a fun thread until someone had to go and ruin it.

It's just a forum on a website, relax. I get this told to me over and over.

What does a Jewish wife do with her asshole in the morning?

Send him to work!

Told to me by a Jewish judge.

Edited by kthompson on 02/13/2013 06:25:39 MST.

Cesar Valdez
(PrimeZombie) - F

Locale: Scandinavia
Re: Re: Men's Fairy Tale on 02/13/2013 07:23:01 MST Print View

"This was a fun thread until someone had to go and ruin it."

http://youtu.be/ijZRCIrTgQc

Daryl Daryl
(lyrad1) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest, USA, Earth
Nice Song and Video on 02/13/2013 08:15:57 MST Print View

Cesar.

I liked the song and video. Very moving.

Daryl

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Nice Song and Video on 02/13/2013 09:20:01 MST Print View

This one is better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2UhvN0k74w

Lynn Tramper
(retropump) - F

Locale: The Antipodes of La Coruna
Happily married men? on 02/13/2013 12:41:30 MST Print View

Just wondering, all joking aside, how many of you men (or women) participating on this thread are actually in a happy committed relationship (OK, call it 'married' if you like)? And if so, what is it about your partner that keeps you happy? Is it because they allow you to drink, have a man-cave, control the telly, shop-til-you-drop, sit and be a blob, cook great meals?? Or is it something else? Just asking. And if you are in an unhappy relationship, what are the aspects of that relationship that don't live up to your expectations?

Cesar is entitled to his opinions, and is entitled to voice them here. He has a good point, which is why I added that it doesn't have to be 'husband and wide' jokes. The half-time joke would have been just as funny (and gross) if told with a gay perspective, or a hetero couple who are not married. The Jewish joke could have been just as funny as "What does a Jewish woman (instead of wife) do with her asshole in the morning? Send him to work!". Admittedly, this leaves you wondering if it was her father, husband or son she sent to work, but it still work works just fine without hammering the institution of marriage (which I happen to think is an outdated institution, but that's beside the point). However, it is still sexist. But on Chaff, anything goes, even racist and sexist comments...

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Happily married men? on 02/13/2013 13:10:09 MST Print View

"The half-time joke would have been just as funny (and gross) if told with a gay perspective, or a hetero couple who are not married."

I actually take it as more of a 'getting older' joke and you are absolutely correct, the humour is not because they are married - one could substitute any type of relationship in there.

What is it about my partner that makes me happy? I hate to be cliche, but everything. And she has been making me happy for 20 years just because of the way she is, not because of what I want her to be. We have a great relationship that is based on a committed approach to supporting each other in our own endeavors. For sake of example, I dropped her off at the airport this morning for a trip to a fitness conference (in a MUCH warmer clime, I must add) for the next 5 days for both a work and relaxation commitment with several others. I now will take care of our children, take them to school, drive around to their activities, volunteer at the Provincial Dive Competition of which my son will compete, etc, and try to run my business on the side. And in April, she will return the favour as I venture into the wilds for a week. Works well plus I get to spend more time with the kiddies.

Seriously - I could not be happier.

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: Happily married men? on 02/13/2013 13:20:41 MST Print View

I'm happily married.

What keeps me happy? Knowing that we married each other for exactly who we were and allowing each other to be the person we want to be. We do what we want knowing that all decisions, both individual and as a couple, will be respectful to the relationship. We don't have to bend to the other's view of ourselves.

If I want a beer, I have a beer. If she wants a beer, she'll have a beer.
If I want to buy a shirt, I'll buy a shirt. if she wants to buy a shirt, she'll buy a shirt.
If I want to fart, I'll fart (and then get laughed at and jokingly yelled at). If she wants to fart, she'll fart (and I'll laugh at her and jokingly yell at her.)
If I want to be a blob, I'll be a blob, but feel slightly bad because my wife never sits and is a blob. But she doesn't make me feel bad about it. I just do because she's a very hard worker and that motivates me to be the same.

And so on.

I've been married 1.5 years, and dated her for 5 before that. In all that time, I can count on one hand the "fights" we've had, and the hard feelings never lasted more than a few hours. Why? Because everything is always on the table. (And neither of us are assholes).


Case in point (true story):

"Hey, do you mind if I go hang out with the guys at the bar tonight?"
"Excuse me? Don't ever ask me that again."
"Um, what?"
"Don't ever feel that you need to ask permission to see your friends. They're your friends and they mean a lot to you."
"I just didn't want to leave you home alone tonight."
"I'm fully capable of being alone. I got stuff to do anyways. Go and have fun, but be safe."
"Sweet!"




BTW, she thinks all the jokes on this thread are funny and doesn't feel at all insulted. Sees the forest for the trees.

spelt !
(spelt) - F

Locale: SW/C PA
Seriously, then on 02/13/2013 13:23:01 MST Print View

As the OP, what did you even find funny about the joke? It doesn't reflect your life. I would bet it doesn't reflect the lives of most happy people, married or not. Without believing in the gender stereotypes that supposedly make it funny...it really isn't much of a joke.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Seriously, then on 02/13/2013 13:40:30 MST Print View

I like fart jokes.

Now piss off. This is Chaff.

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: Re: Seriously, then on 02/13/2013 13:50:05 MST Print View

tyuoi