NeoAir Mini Pump
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Peter S
(prse) - MLife

Locale: Denmark
NeoAir Mini Pump on 01/30/2013 01:26:21 MST Print View

Just saw this at Cascasde Designs:

http://cascadedesigns.com/therm-a-rest/accessories/neoair-mini-pump/product

One of the reasons i sold my NeoAir Large was the amount of air/time it took to blow it up. I might get the Xlite Large because of this.

Rob E
(eatSleepFish)

Locale: Canada
Re: NeoAir Mini Pump on 01/30/2013 04:27:17 MST Print View

That looks pretty neat. I've often wondered why an electric fan pump for inflatables in this size didn't exist, as all of the small electric pumps I've seen weigh a ton and seem to take a dozen or so D-cell batteries.

Although comfortable and warm, the time and effort it takes to inflate my Big Agnes insulated air core mat often has me leaving it behind.

Edited by eatSleepFish on 01/30/2013 04:29:27 MST.

diego dean
(cfionthefly) - M
Nothing new on 01/30/2013 05:36:21 MST Print View

This looks like a rebadged Micro burst which has been around for a couple years. Yes, they work.

Don Selesky
(backslacker) - M
Re: Nothing new on 01/30/2013 06:14:58 MST Print View

Mostly. I've found that they don't have enough pressure to fully inflate a pad, so you still need to top it off, but it does get it most of the way.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: NeoAir Mini Pump on 01/30/2013 06:17:02 MST Print View

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=53651

Raymond Estrella
(rayestrella) - MLife

Locale: Northern Minnesota
Inflator on 01/30/2013 06:55:20 MST Print View

Diego is correct. They are an OEM version of the Camptek Microburst. I use one a lot in winter.

http://tinyurl.com/6rrefje

Durwin Bassett
(onemoremile)

Locale: inthesticks
I have CampTek version on 01/30/2013 07:31:13 MST Print View

Works very well for my Neo Air X-Lite large. I would recommend.


Durwin

Hiking Malto
(gg-man) - F
My namby pamby item on 01/30/2013 07:53:02 MST Print View

My camptek pump is probably my only namby pamby item that I take. Official reason is to not get moisture into the insulation of my xtherm. Real reason, I hate blowing up an air at at after a long day hiking.

Peter S
(prse) - MLife

Locale: Denmark
Thank you on 01/30/2013 18:54:32 MST Print View

for good feedback guys, I think this is a could be a really nice luxury item

Yes 1000
(mamamia)
Top off using your lungs on 01/31/2013 08:06:39 MST Print View

I use this thing from Camptek on all my trips. Basically you run the pump for 3 minutes and then top off with using your lungs. I have tried running it for 45 mins and never got the pad fully inflated. I'm also impressed with their low battery consumption.

michael levi
(M.L) - F

Locale: W-Never Eat Soggy (W)affles
Re on 01/31/2013 09:43:25 MST Print View

Weight? 2.3oz with or without batteries?

Andrew F
(andrew.f) - F - M

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: Pump on 01/31/2013 10:37:39 MST Print View

And as we learned at the GGG Wood Stove Burnoff this last weekend, you can dual-use it as a sweet forced air fan to turn your wood stove into a blowtorch... :)

Michael Cheifetz
(mike_hefetz) - MLife

Locale: Israel
call me stu_id on 01/31/2013 11:08:15 MST Print View

but is it THAT bad inflating the NEO?

I admit I have a short version - but its pretty trivial - just takes a few minutes as I slowly but surly do it by mouth

and RE humidity - I thought TAR vehemently said that is NOT a concern for the NEO series

Mike

Miles Spathelf
(MilesS) - MLife
Not that bad to inflate on 01/31/2013 11:21:33 MST Print View

It takes me 11 deep breathes to inflate the regular neo air...I think the large is 34% bigger by volume...so 15 deep breathes. I suppose if you had lung function issues this might be useful.

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: call me stu_id on 01/31/2013 11:31:24 MST Print View

Yes, according to their FAQ, humidity, even if it freezes, is not a concern. Just store the pad correctly when not in use; unfolded and valve open.

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: NeoAir Mini Pump on 01/31/2013 11:47:40 MST Print View

So people who can hike 20+ miles a day cannot blow up their air mat? What's up with that?

I can see the value for a DAM, but an air bag pump would be lighter.

James Castleberry
(Winterland76)
Air bag pump on 01/31/2013 11:51:10 MST Print View

I always thought a modified alpacka raft silnylon inflator bag would work great.

Raymond Estrella
(rayestrella) - MLife

Locale: Northern Minnesota
What's up with that? on 01/31/2013 12:12:02 MST Print View

It is about blowing them up and introducing moisture day after day when it is below freezing. Not being a wimp. How much water do you think you add blowing up a large Xtherm? Now it collects and freezes solid in one of the tubes because it is -24 F (like I was about a week ago). Then you roll it up the next day and puncture your pad with the ice.

I really wimp out having to buy new gear when I didn't need to wreck it in the first place. ;-)

I am packing right now for a trip leaving early tomorrow that will never see the high temp get above 0 F. The Microburst is sitting right here waiting to get loaded.

But even in warmer weather some folks have problems blowing up large pads. I have a buddy that gets major dizzy blowing up his Q-Core. To the point he talks about going back to something with less volume.

Edited by rayestrella on 01/31/2013 12:16:05 MST.

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: What's up with that? on 01/31/2013 16:28:36 MST Print View

Ray,

You have much more cold weather experience than I do. Coldest I have ever been in was 5F, and I was sleeping on foam. I do sleep in the 20's F and the past couple of years have been using a BA IAC.

It seems to me that if one is sleeping on a air mattress and the air inside of it is cold enough to freeze the water vapor from blowing it up, and there is still ice in it when you wake up, then one would lose a lot of body heat into the air mattress during the night? Of course if one had thick enough foam pads on top of the air mattress to stop the heat loss, then an air mattress would not be needed?

Not being argumentative or smart -- just trying to figure all of this out.

P.S. Sleeping in -24F weather does not seem like fun or sane :)

Peter S
(prse) - MLife

Locale: Denmark
boring on 01/31/2013 16:33:48 MST Print View

It's bleeping boring to blow up a large air mattress....

I don't need whisky either...