Tim has been super helpful, but I'd like to have user input on two questions: 1) For a 3 season, 70-30 degree temp range quilt, is the feel of the 10d liner so much better that its worth considering, if I have the funds for a Rev over a RevX? 2) How does the does the green 15wr do with breathability in that same 70-30 degree temp range. Thanks in advance.

Edited by ThreeRidges on 01/29/2013 20:59:45 MST.

Any insights would be welcome, thanks.

10d nobul1 and 10d nobul2 for me.

I have both a Rev 40F 8D/8D and a RevX 20F. While the 10D is certainly softer than the 30D, I find the 30D still pretty darn soft, don't forget that 30D is considered an ultralight fabric for the major manufacturers. Get a 30F quilt in either config and I think you'll be happy, Tim makes an excellent product. It really comes down to how much the few extra ounces matter to you.

Finally decided Rev was worth it.

30 degree w/1 overstuff
Inside Color: Charcoal 10D NB 1,
Outside Color: Black 10D NB 2

I'm fence sitting on whether to get a regular Revelation (more weather resistant material), EE cuben quilt or hold off a year and just get a new, lighter pack and maybe a new shelter this year. Just got a reply from Tim, will be another two weeks for info on his cuben quilts.
Duane

The lighter materials are definitley worth it imo. 30d is great for tents, not so much for a sleeping bag.

Couldn't agree more. I know a lot of people aren't bothered by the 30d, but for me the regular revelation is hands down far and above the revX in terms of feel. I have both - a 30 deg revelation and a 10 deg revX, but honestly I may end up selling the revX and getting a colder revelation next winter because I love the softer hand so much more.

Edited by Jenmitol on 01/30/2013 20:34:38 MST.

Won't the 10D be cooler, letting wind thru, thus making you colder?
Duane

The 10d NB2 has a more substantial coating (compared to NB1) so probably not. Im not sure though.

Doesn't seem like folks have gone for the 15 WR outer, anyone have experience with that, breathability wise?

My revelation has that combo. It's a 30* with 30% overstuff (so rated about 25?). Seems pretty wind resistant yet fine in terms of breathability. I like it a lot so far...

Thanks Jennifer, that's very helpful.

I got a great deal on a demo Borah cuben bivy with top netting, side zip, so my question now is, how down leakage resistant is the 10D? From the EE site, all 10D will save about 1.5 oz. I don't need the weatherproofness now with the bivy and soon to add a tarp maybe when I make up my mind on what size.
Duane

I've had my rev with the 10d liner for a few months...using it a lot on the couch ;)

I've not seen ANY down leaking from the liner. I went with the slightly more resistant 15d for the shell because my 70# wet and muddy pup sleeps in the tent with me...and, well, you can just imagine.

Thank you Jennifer. I miss having a dog. My current work situation does not allow me a dog.:(
Duane

I haven't seen any leakage from my 8D/8D 40F either. Tim makes a great quilt.

Oh man! I'm a Libra, you're not making this decision making easy for me.
Duane

Duane, just get the 10D, you'll never regret going as light as you could, but I've often regretted not just getting the lightest of something the first time around.

Thanks Art.
How strong is the 10D in comparison to? Say a silk liner. WM "Lite" series of down bags.
Duane