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Andy Jarman
(AndyJarman) - M

Locale: Edge of the World
Sawyer improves its bags - Aussies go check out Kmart on 01/25/2013 20:12:42 MST Print View

John Abela has recently posted an interesting article about Sawyer's new tougher (?) and improved 'squeeze' bags - http://hikelighter.com/2013/01/20/sawyer-squeeze-updated-2013-version/#more-594 .

I've contacted Sawyer and I think I blew it, not sure John was supposed to advertise the fact that the old black bags are now obsolete! Sorry John.

Anyway, Sawyer agreed to sell me some of the new bags which are normally only available if you buy the new filter.

AUSTRALIANS - you may have noticed that Kmart are selling tastefully decorated (metallic blue or Zebra striped) 0.5L squeeze bags for $1 each - grab em whilst they last they seem pretty tough and they fit the squeeze filter. You may have to change your entire wardrobe to go with their understated appearance though...

BTW I've been using PET soft drink bottles as the 'dirty' bottle on my Squeeze. Whilst they are a bit noisey they take quite a bit of wringing before cracking and don't leak and they are stiff enough to submerge in the water when filling with dirty water, rids you of the need to keep a 'scoop' for the purpose of filling the bag - just a thought in case you haven't tried them..or burst your last bag!

Max Dilthey
(mdilthey) - M

Locale: MaxTheCyclist.com
Platypus Bottles May Fit Sawyer Now on 01/26/2013 00:29:14 MST Print View

I can't tell if this is anecdotal or not. I will post some high definition pictures tomorrow.

My brand new Platypus 2L fits absolutely perfectly on my brand new 2013 Sawyer Squeeze, which I got from MLD with the new bombproof bag. It's a perfect connection, no forcing it, just had to line it up right. It doesn't sit at an angle and it filtered 4 liters without a leaked drop.

So, either 50 backpackers on this forum can't screw a bottle on or they changed it. It should be the latter... I hope!

Adam Rothermich
(aroth87) - F

Locale: Missouri Ozarks
Re: Platypus Bottles May Fit Sawyer Now on 01/26/2013 05:40:20 MST Print View

That's good news, I've been wanting to get a Sawyer filter for a while but was leery because I've got a couple of Platypus bladders that I'd still like to use. I'm less interested if I have to replace them with the ever-elusive Evernew bladders.

Adam

Chris W
(simplespirit) - MLife

Locale: .
Re: Platypus Bottles May Fit Sawyer Now on 01/26/2013 06:38:23 MST Print View

I bought my Sawyer system some time last year and my Platys are several years old, but they mate up fine.

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: Re: Platypus Bottles May Fit Sawyer Now on 01/26/2013 08:36:48 MST Print View

I have a Platypus from maybe 2 years ago and it does not fit right - I can screw it on but it doesn't feel right and leaks - maybe I need lessons from Max and Chris.

I have a Platypus from maybe 10 years ago and it fits fine.

But they both seem brittle - kind of stiff and crinkly - delamination around the edges - I should quit being a hoarder and throw them away.

Max Dilthey
(mdilthey) - M

Locale: MaxTheCyclist.com
Sawyer + Platypus on 01/26/2013 10:44:54 MST Print View

Takes me like two seconds to screw it on. No resistance at all.

This is the platypus I used:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B002LSS68C/ref=dp_image?ie=UTF8&color_name=x&img=MAIN&s=sporting-goods

My Sawyer was the 2013 one from MLD, as stated above.

matthew rangel
(MRangel) - F
Theading on 01/26/2013 13:45:39 MST Print View

Perhaps Sawyer changed the threading as well as the bag material. My Platy leaks terribly when attached to my 2012 filter. It's a useless combo with my filter...

Max Dilthey
(mdilthey) - M

Locale: MaxTheCyclist.com
2012 on 01/26/2013 14:51:07 MST Print View

Yeah, the 2012's don't work.

Edited by mdilthey on 01/26/2013 14:52:09 MST.

Lance Marshall
(Lancem) - F - MLife

Locale: Oregon
Re: Platypus Bottles May Fit Sawyer Now on 01/26/2013 15:20:22 MST Print View

Here are pictures of a Sawyer in-line adaptor vs. a Platypus bottle. The adaptor was purchased about a year ago. I assume the threads are identical to the Squeeze itself. My Platypus bottles range from two to ten years old and are all threaded alike.

The Platypus threads appear use the SPI specification for 28mm caps of .167" thread pitch or 6 tpi. The Sawyer threads measure closer to the .106" thread pitch (about 9.43 tpi) pop bottle standard (Similar standard).

They line up and screw together to a point.

Maybe one or the other has changed for 2013.

Platypus Bottle thread vs Sawyer

Platypus Bottle thread vs Sawyer

Hope this helps.

(edited to correct specification references)

Edited by Lancem on 02/22/2013 21:48:18 MST.

KEN LARSON
(KENLARSON) - MLife

Locale: Western Michigan
SAWYER 2013 BAGS AND THREADS on 01/28/2013 07:39:28 MST Print View

I emailed John T. Smith of Sawyer concerning the threading and bag material in question that individuals had about the new 2013 squeeze bags (blue model).

The question was, "Has Sawyer changed the threading as well as the bag material on the new bags?"

The ANSWER......."We have changed neither."

2013 SAWYER BAG

For more information: http://hikelighter.com/2013/01/20/sawyer-squeeze-updated-2013-version/

Max Dilthey
(mdilthey) - M

Locale: MaxTheCyclist.com
Oh no! on 01/28/2013 08:15:45 MST Print View

Now I'm picturing fifty BPL members furiously banging a platypus and a Sawyer Squeeze together, unable to complete the basic screwing motion!

Sarcasm. I'm sure it isn't incompetence. Something, somewhere, changed. It had to, right?

J J
(jraiderguy) - M

Locale: Puget Sound
Any new info? on 02/09/2013 22:59:55 MST Print View

New to the forum, but I have the squeeze. I had one of the sawyer bags fail on me already. I've made due with a platy bottle, but it does leak as others have shown, so I'm careful to hold the whole thing upside down when squeezing.

Just wanted to bump this thread and see if anyone has come up with an alternative other than the perpetually unavailable Evernew bags?

One idea I was toying with was whether it was possible to add a second spout to a platypus bottle using some sort of bulkhead fitting, but I haven't been able to fin a bulkhead fitting for the soda bottle type threads.

I'm thinking I might just switch to a nalgene canteen and one of the jetflow adapters, but it doesn't seem like the lightest option.

Thoughts?

Tom Lyons
(towaly) - F

Locale: Smoky Mtns.
Tornado tube on 02/10/2013 01:58:57 MST Print View

Here ya go!

http://www.highwaterfilters.com/Tornado-Tube-Adaptor-for-SP-131-Sawyer-Squeeze-p/tt-01.htm

J J
(jraiderguy) - M

Locale: Puget Sound
Not sure the tornado tube would fix the issue? on 02/10/2013 14:19:02 MST Print View

Wouldn't I need some sort of male-male coupler to use the tornado tube with a platy bag on the dirty water end?

Lance Marshall
(Lancem) - F - MLife

Locale: Oregon
Re: Not sure the tornado tube would fix the issue? on 02/10/2013 16:07:34 MST Print View

Here's what I've used with a Frontier Pro filter instead of threading it directly to a Platy. I find it's easier to drink from and can be left attached and still fit in a side pocket. It's just a Platy hydration tube cut short. Arrowhead Equipment has a similar 'Platy hose adaptor' for cheap.

Pictured attached to a Sawyer Squeeze adaptor:
Platy to sawyer using hydration hose

Hope this helps.

Edited by Lancem on 02/10/2013 21:13:07 MST.

J J
(jraiderguy) - M

Locale: Puget Sound
Thanks! on 02/10/2013 19:42:51 MST Print View

This looks great. Thank you!

Lance Marshall
(Lancem) - F - MLife

Locale: Oregon
Thread pitch revisited on 02/22/2013 23:06:14 MST Print View

I broke down and purchased a Sawyer Squeeze. Upon inspection, it appeared that the thread pitch on the filter and adaptor was different than the thread pitch of the included caps! I cut a cap in two and compared the threads more closely. The thread pitch is indeed different. The Squeeze cap more closely matches the Platypus bottle neck than the Squeeze itself!

Squeeze cap vs Squeeze bottle neck - mismatch:
Sawyer Squeeze cap vs neck

Squeeze cap vs Squeeze filter - mismatch:
Sawyer Squeeze cap vs filter

Squeeze neck vs Platypus neck - mismatch:
Squeeze neck vs Platypus neck

Squeeze cap vs Platypus neck - match:
Squeeze cap vs Platypus neck

I'm no longer going to worry about thread compatibility. If it's good enough for Sawyer and it doesn't leak, I'll use it with my Platy bottles without fear of messing up the threads.

Edited by Lancem on 03/03/2013 23:34:08 MST.