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Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Wants to spring open on 02/07/2013 22:54:21 MST Print View

I had that occur when I unpacked an aluminum cone while making a video. Got to remember that they are under tension. That tension issue was a concern for me when I designed this new windscreen. I releived the tension by heat treating. You can see from my last video that there is no longer a concern of a "jumping out" issue. I consider that a major improvement over the DIY or commercial cones.

Watch the video:

http://www.woodgaz-stove.com/ridgeline-can-for-caldera-cone-keg.php

By the way, the stainless steel band closure strip that helps hold my windscreen together is in part an idea that Jason Klass came up with a few years ago. I think he called it a belt buckle closure. It had quite a few holes punched in it to reduce weight. Thanks Jason :-)

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Project on hold on 02/09/2013 07:07:30 MST Print View

Family matters have caused me to put this project on hold.

David Gardner
(GardnerOutdoorLD) - M

Locale: Northern California
Re: Project on hold on 02/09/2013 11:54:47 MST Print View

Dan, sorry to hear it. Hope everything works out OK.

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: Re: Project on hold on 02/14/2013 19:26:55 MST Print View

Thanks David. Son-in-law's funeral was yesterday. He was 54 years young. Heart attack/diabetes. Now life goes on for the rest of us for a space in time. Make the best of it.

I can begin my project again tomorrow.

brent driggers
(cadyak) - MLife

Locale: southwest georgia
condolences on 02/15/2013 11:00:17 MST Print View

Very sorry to hear about your son-in-law.

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: condolences on 02/16/2013 16:44:12 MST Print View

Thank you Brent. Really takes a toll on a guy. Takes the wind out of your sails for a bit.

Hey, just wanted to get back on track with this project. Want to show you how I pack the stove in the wood burning mode. after you watch my video go over and watch the Trail Designs video on how the TiTri Inferno stove is loaded. Big difference in the two.

Watch "User Friendly" (click on it)

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Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Project is Finished on 02/20/2013 12:38:58 MST Print View

I'm finished with this windscreen project. All has went well. Working with titanium has been interesting and rewarding.

New design for a welded wire pot support gives new meaning to a StarLyte stove. Yesterday I weighed a 2 cup foster pot with lid, a starlyte burner with lid and a full size ss pot support and the weight came to 1.5 ounces. Pot support fits inside the Foster can.

Thank you everyone for your help on this project.

Roger Munsey
(8100LT) - MLife

Locale: Midwest
Just ordered mine! on 02/28/2013 10:41:22 MST Print View

Dan,

Thanks for your work and videos on this project.
I just ordered this new kit from you and it looks like
you shipped already! Can't wait to try it!

Roger

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: Just ordered mine! on 02/28/2013 20:09:56 MST Print View

Yes, thank you. I shipped it out yesterday. Send me an email when it arrives, I have a question for you.

Roger Munsey
(8100LT) - MLife

Locale: Midwest
Looks Great! on 03/01/2013 19:35:21 MST Print View

Dan,

Kit arrived and it looks great!
Sent you a PM.

Roger

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: Titanium Windscreen Design on 11/24/2013 18:06:10 MST Print View

A thread by Delmar O'Donnell prompted me to bump this thread up because it has a lot of content that relates to information gathered in his thread. In this thread we can see how shared information improves on a design. The progression of designs has led to the use of louvers to swirl the incoming air to keep the flames centralized and turbulent. As they rise the turbulence is maintained by the ridges in a flat bottomed Foster's can. A photo and video of that windscreen can be seen in Delmar's thread.

In this thread you will see the use of crenelation pot support/air entry system.

Can a plain cylindrical windscreen be the pot support?

DY
Adventures In Stove Making

Edited by zelph on 11/24/2013 18:15:19 MST.

Delmar O'Donnell
(Bolster)

Locale: Between Jacinto & Gorgonio
Thanks on 11/24/2013 20:38:13 MST Print View

Thanks for the bump, Dan. I had not seen this excellent thread.

Paul French
(SSGHawk) - F - MLife

Locale: Northern Texas
New (?) idea and best practices on 07/02/2014 21:28:30 MDT Print View

This is dedicated to Dan Zelph who provides constant encouragement, support and guidance always like a perfect gentlemen.
This is based on the concept that the longer we can keep turbulated exhaust in the space been the windscreen and the pot, the greater the heat extraction.


I call this the JenBar Swirl after my daughter and also my wife. I was young man (not baby sitting as he started beating me at chess at age 3)sitting my 7 year old super jock grandson. I watch him side down the tightly wound McDonald's playland slide and had the lite bulb turn on moment. How don't I make the exhaust swirl around the pot without too much weight addition and with the strength to stay attach permanently to the pot. I am on generation 4 or so and this week I hope to make a real prototype. I have made a number of test beds using wood stove gasket with a coat hanger to make and hold the slide swirls in the proper shape and position and the size/shape of the swirling bends. This gave me the easy ability to test the amount of swirls and the distance between the pot and the wind screen.

A probably will make the first proto type with aluminum flashing. Ultimately will use much lighter tooling foil or titanium. Not being an engineer, I had to cut up a boat load of empty cereal boxes to figure out the template to cut the slide and support tabs. Everything on that is set except for the blood the will be required during the cutting.

The aluminum flashing slide will be high temp epoxied to the pot itself(a Zelph 32 oz flat bottom ridged conquistador)The inner windscreen will be horizontally corrugated for strength since the final version will be very light Next comes a 1/16 to 1/4" of carbon felt or fiberglass insulation (insulation suggestions appreciated) and then a final corrugated tooling foil cover. The windscreen will be as tall as the stove plus clearance plus the file pot height. The temporary packing storage container will be a oatmeal round cardboard container or an old aluminum coffee pot.(packing storage containers appreciated.)

The windscreen may have a permanent bottom for rigidity and possibly swing out feet with holes to use with small stakes.

the width between the inner windscreen and the pot will be approximately 3/4" away from the pot and possibly more depending on many sides I add. Slides mean the exhaust must bend which chokes efficiency so the opening gap must me larger.

THe air inlet holes will be substantial but will be side opening as shown in Zelph's swirling inlets posted here or on his website. A drop of epoxy will help help the side hinged doors from being moved. There will be an inner lower ring of Dan's old style corrugate windscreen that will be somewhat taller than the inlet air holes & this will be epoxied in place. There will be a lip on the bottom of the windscreen that will hold a tooling foil with similar air holes as in the windscreen that can close up or limit the amount of the air inlet flow. The stove is Dan's giant starlyte that cones with his conquistador kit. I will extend the lighting wick so it can reach to an easy place to light. I am considering making the lower portion of the windstand a separate section that the top windscreen will stack onto. The stove will been epoxied to a piece of carbon felt and than to the bottom of the pot. I will have a simmer ring to fit on the top of the Starlyte as well as the ability to turn down the air inlet vents. There will be a base reflector made out of kitchen aluminum to help keep the stove cool.I may want to put a viewing pot so I can monitor the flame.

This is wear I am. Picture will follow if I get it together, up and running.

All suggestions greatly appreciated,

And thanks again to Dan the man.
Paul French

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
The JenBar Swirl on 07/05/2014 19:08:07 MDT Print View

Hey Paul, we look forward to the completion of your JenBar Swirl. That's quite a project you've taken on. Get it up and running.....the sooner, the better :-) with lots of photos, flames and water boiling :-)))))