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George Davis
(nsiderbam) - F

Locale: mid-Atlantic
New MLD Trailstar on 01/07/2013 15:39:57 MST Print View

Did anybody see Ron's post on the MLD Facebook page? What do you think of it (for those who haven't seen it's a new 'mini' Trailstar with 6' side lengths) and will you get one? For those who have a Trailstar already, do you think that this new one would be too small for two people?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/131793047725/

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: New MLD Trailstar on 01/07/2013 15:43:13 MST Print View

The only thing that gave me pause when using the TrailStar was the sheer foot print requirement. It is a palace for two and some gear. The new one is intriguing for solo use plus gear. For a 2.5oz savings, however, you might be better off using the regular one for two people.

michael levi
(M.L) - F

Locale: W-Never Eat Soggy (W)affles
Re on 01/07/2013 16:08:36 MST Print View

The cricket is the mini trail star, this one must be somewhere Inbetween. Can someone post some info and pics? I'm on my phone and can't view the whole link on mobile view.

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
From FB on 01/07/2013 16:32:03 MST Print View

MLD Prototype

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
This doesn't help on 01/07/2013 16:38:03 MST Print View

Well I've narrowed my selection down to either the Hexamid solo plus, duo mid, speed mid, cricket, Zpacks hammock tarp or this gem.

Cottage industry isn't making this process any easier.

Tyler Barcelli
(youngster) - M

Locale: Southeast
Re: Re: New MLD Trailstar on 01/07/2013 16:38:04 MST Print View

The only thing that kept me from getting a trailstar was the footprint size. I'm almost always solo so I did not need that room but have always wanted its flexibility and wind worthiness. The previous solo trailstar was just the cricket fly. It was not a true trailstar and so it did not perform like one. I will definitely be getting one if/when they become available.

Jim Colten
(jcolten)

Locale: MN
footprint comparison: New MLD Trailstar on 01/07/2013 17:12:06 MST Print View

I've voluntarily redacted this post until such time that I communicate with Ron Bell and figure out where my calculations are wrong.

Regardless of any calculated numbers I certainly should have explicitly pointed out that "(all corners at or near ground level)" is a pitch that I expect would almost never be used.

Edited by jcolten on 01/08/2013 11:18:00 MST.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: New MLD Trailstar on 01/07/2013 17:20:46 MST Print View

Nothing on the MLD site, and I don't do facebook. What does it say about availability?

Tyler Barcelli
(youngster) - M

Locale: Southeast
Re: Re: New MLD Trailstar on 01/07/2013 17:25:54 MST Print View

No mention of availability Douglas. Ron made it for a friend as a prototype and he hasn't said whether or not it would become available.

George Davis
(nsiderbam) - F

Locale: mid-Atlantic
Re: Re: Re: New MLD Trailstar on 01/07/2013 17:32:23 MST Print View

Just a note -- this is not available yet and may not be for quite a while. The facebook post was just asking for name suggestions. The one I like best so far is "Starlet".

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: Re: New MLD Trailstar on 01/07/2013 17:44:35 MST Print View

"Nothing on the MLD site, and I don't do facebook."

Yeah, same problem here :)

Anyway, for a couple of ounces might as well get the regular one.

Tyler Barcelli
(youngster) - M

Locale: Southeast
Re: Re: Re: New MLD Trailstar on 01/07/2013 17:52:29 MST Print View

I agree that the regular trailstar would probably be the best for most. For me however, the footprint size was just too large for me. I'm excited that at least a prototype is available and dropping weight is always a plus here right ;)

Ron Bell
(mountainlaureldesigns) - F - M

Locale: USA
Re: Re: Re: Re: New MLD Trailstar on 01/07/2013 21:29:48 MST Print View

The footprint size depends on the peak height and various options in the footprint shape / pitch configurations. Note also that in some pitches it is more of a seven sided shelter. Lots of pitch options is one of it's strengths.

Edited by mountainlaureldesigns on 01/08/2013 08:53:39 MST.

Jim Colten
(jcolten)

Locale: MN
Re: New MLD Trailstar on 01/08/2013 08:28:10 MST Print View

Hi Ron,

I have redacted the contents of that post.

And yes, different pitch choices will result in dramatically different footprint dimensions and shapes.

Jim

Edited by jcolten on 01/08/2013 08:36:42 MST.

Michael Cheifetz
(mike_hefetz) - MLife

Locale: Israel
protection on 01/08/2013 11:21:18 MST Print View

Ron - looks really interesting to me - sort of going for a full on 2+ ppl shelter to a 1+ type of shelter.

having said that, since its not a fully enclosed tent - in my standard TS part of the ability to avoid foul weather has to do with its size - it allows me to be far enough away from the entry (assuming a 5 corners to the ground is really only an emergency pitch) so that i rarely get spray etc...

How do you see this change from 7 to 6 feet affecting the protection? did you consider making the side asymmetric?

Mike