Forum Index » GEAR » Long sleeve shirt for sun protection


Display Avatars Sort By:
Steven Hall
(lundquistas) - F
Long sleeve shirt for sun protection on 12/29/2012 00:14:10 MST Print View

Hi everyone,

I'm planning a trip around the Tahoe Rim Trail this summer and decided I should probably have some decent sun protection. I want to find a long sleeve shirt that breathes well for hiking in the warm weather over summer. It will probably be a 10 day trip so I'd prefer to have something that fights off the stink some. Does anyone have any experience with the lighter wool long sleeve options from Smartwool, Ibex, or Icebreaker? I like the 1/4 zip features on some to air out the shirt even more...

Thanks!

Jeremy B.
(requiem) - F

Locale: Northern California
sun hoodies on 12/29/2012 00:33:31 MST Print View

I haven't tried the wool items, but I wanted to mention some sun hoodies. I picked up an EB solarfoil hoody (sizing on these ran extremely large), and it looks like Patagonia also has something similar.

They're loose fitting tops with floppy hoods and often have thumb holes in the sleeves (I found this useful for keeping the backs of my hands from getting sunburnt).

Alex Eriksson
(aeriksson) - M

Locale: Austin, TX
Re: Long sleeve shirt for sun protection on 12/29/2012 01:48:49 MST Print View

Having been afflicted with the Curse of the Gingers at birth I too am often searching for long sleeve protection from the sun, especially for summertime adventures. I can only speak to two things I've tried, and one thing I'm going to try...

1. Under Armour Heat Gear (in white, slim-ish fit): Light. Airy. Super easy to stain with dirt that never washed out after one use. Smelled so bad after a weekend trip with some humidity I thought I would pass out, which is saying something because, as a friend once said, "everyone loves their own brand." It was that bad; trashed.

2. Arcteryx Motus LS (in silver, purchased 60% off at REI): Expensive before discount. Totally made of some sort of unicorn hair spun into a magical garment that works great as a base layer, but more apropos to this discussion, is really amazingly nice in warm conditions. Better yet? Zero stink after 4 straight days of wear 24/7. Unicorn hair I tell ya!

3. Railriders Eco-Mesh Shirt (someone will mention it, but I haven't tried it): Looks promising with it's mesh panels albeit it a little at the expense of wearing mesh and sending the woodland creatures the wrong idea. I may never try it because it has a nehru collar and if I ever caught myself wearing a nehru collar I'd be forced to kick my own @ss for talking about adjusting my chi (what happens after everyone wears a nehru collared anything).

Alex Eriksson
(aeriksson) - M

Locale: Austin, TX
Almost forgot... on 12/29/2012 01:52:07 MST Print View

I have some 150 and 100wt merino tops with half zip (Stoic) that I snagged as they were discontinued a few months ago, that I'm going to try out this spring/summer. My big worry there isn't that they'll be too warm due to their fiber, but due to their fairly dark colors. Granted, I picked up a medium blue, but I'd still much rather have a light gray, unbleached cottony color, or white.

But we'll see how it goes.

Mike Van
(Mike777) - MLife
No need for long sleeves on 12/29/2012 04:10:55 MST Print View

I started to use an umbrella for UV protection last spring. Best self made shade I ever had, great against light to medium rain too. I now always take my Euroschirm SwingLiteflex silver with me (212 grams / 7.5oz), to me it's worth the extra weight.

Mike Van
(Mike777) - MLife
no need for long sleeves on 12/29/2012 04:10:55 MST Print View

I started to use an umbrella for UV protection last spring. Best self made shade I ever had, great against light to medium rain too. I now always take my Euroschirm SwingLiteflex silver with me (212 grams / 7.5oz), to me it's worth the extra weight.

Nathan Watts
(7sport) - MLife
Re: sun hoodies on 12/29/2012 05:10:27 MST Print View

I would not recommend Patagonia's sun hoodies for hot conditions. I have a couple and they're awesome for around the house wear, but they're too thick and hot to use hiking in hot conditions.

I use a Sol Cool long sleeve by Exofficio. Feels really nice against the skin, relatively cool, and dries quickly. Won't solve the multi-day stink issue, but I usually soak it in a brook and wring it out at night. Like I said, it dries quickly.

I've got a fly fishing shirt (bone flats shirt) from railriders with mesh sides and venting pockets. Works pretty well and dries quick. Collar is designed to flip up in back for neck coverage too.

Also have used the motus long sleeves by arcteryx that someone else mentioned. Really great at wicking sweat and very thin. I sometimes get chafing from this fabric on long runs, so I stick to the exofficio shirt instead. But I'm guessing it might be a fit issue with me as my wife never has issues with the shirts when she uses them.

Rick M
(rmjapan) - F

Locale: Tokyo, Japan
Re: Re: sun hoodies on 12/29/2012 05:46:36 MST Print View

I sometimes use a Patagonia Lightweight sun hoody when hiking at elevation (2500m+) in summer and think it is an EXCELLENT piece. Even Mike Clelland likes it. You can read his review here on BPL

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/reviews/display_reviews?forum_thread_id=12594&cat=Clothing%20%2D%20Baselayer%20%26%20Fleece%20%2D%20SYNTHETIC&cid=50

and see him wearing it in his various videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_J4D3AHzlxQ

The Patagonia Merino 1 tops also work well for me at elevation while I found the Smartwool LS Lightweight 150 fabric too hot. The gotcha is Merino's durability under a pack over time.

Can't imagine summer alpine hiking without washing my top and undies at least every other day or so though. If washing forces me to carry alot more water, then will just carry an extra shirt.

Edited by rmjapan on 12/29/2012 07:29:25 MST.

Harrison Carpenter
(carpenh) - M

Locale: St. Vrain River Valley
Re: Long sleeve shirt for sun protection on 12/29/2012 08:14:44 MST Print View

Call me a cheapskate (as many people do), but I've never had a problem with long sleeve/breathable workout shirts from Target-- less than $10 on the clearance rack.

Richard Cullip
(RichardCullip) - M

Locale: San Diego County
Railrider Madison River shirt on 12/29/2012 09:06:38 MST Print View

I use the Railriders Madison River fishing shirt for my long sleeve sun protection. Breathes well, dries fast and it has two small pockets that can hold misc small stuff (like my camera).

John Reichle
(mammoman) - M

Locale: NE AL
RR on 12/29/2012 09:31:30 MST Print View

+1 for Railriders shirts. The new Bone Flats shirt is kinda pricey but made for use in the sun.

Steven Hall
(lundquistas) - F
Arc'terxy on 12/29/2012 12:55:17 MST Print View

Thanks guys, look like I may try to find a deal on one of these shirts. They are pricey!

Sun hoodie looks like it may be a little much for what I'm looking for

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Long sleeve shirt for sun protection on 12/29/2012 13:25:52 MST Print View

I like polyester over wool. In general, those fabrics that have a more open "meshier" weave, like Cap2 vs slicker tighter weaves like Cap1. Add light colors and a loose fit.

Odd how some types pick up stink so quick (and strong). I have one North Face shirt that is terrible that way.

One you step outside the hiking brands box, there are all sorts of sports and running shirts that work well and can be found in big box stores and the discount liquidators like Ross and Marshall's.

If you are on a really tight budget, you can go to thrift stores buy the give-away promo shirts from marathons and chartity runs for a couple dollars. You might be a walking billboard, but you can scoff at ember holes and snags.

I like Ex Officio Airstrip Lite shirts--- until I put a pack on, with shoulder straps mashing the pockets and the pack negating the ventilation features in general. I've found a simple long sleeve polyester tee to be lighter, cooler, better to layer, less expensive and easier to launder.

Add some simple runner's shorts and a light shady hat like a Sunday Afteroon Adventurer hat for a light and simply hot weather combo.

Jeff Jeff
(TwoFortyJeff) - F
Re: Long sleeve shirt for sun protection on 12/29/2012 18:26:39 MST Print View

When I did the High Sierra Trail and John Muir Trail, I hiked in an UnderArmor heat gear shirt. I coupled it with sun gloves which meant I only needed a little bit of sunblock each day for my face (I didn't trust my hat to keep me shaded, but it did a good job). It's basically like going shirtless, so I packed a light capilene layer to go on top when it got below 70 degrees or so.

jeffrey armbruster
(book) - M

Locale: Northern California
"Long sleeve shirt for sun protection" on 12/29/2012 18:37:39 MST Print View

I use a Mountain Hardwear long sleeved sun shirt for backpacking. I had my doubts at first--it's mostly nylon; I thought that it would be too hot for my typical trips in the Sierra during summer. Now I swear by it. 30 spf, but better than that. Better still, it's mosquito proof. I wear nothing underneath it; this may pose a problem for those who are sensitive to nylon fabrics. Yes, it's a tad more hot than a capilene base; but the sun and bug protection are worth it, imo. REI and others make a good sun-shirt as well.

mik matra
(mikmik)

Locale: Allways on the move
Long sleeve shirt for sun protection on 12/29/2012 18:38:50 MST Print View

I have the Colombia Titanium series long sleeve shirt. Not only is it it VERY lighgt but also very quick drying and also has a VERY high UV protection built into the fabric. Very happy with it.

Hiking Malto
(gg-man) - F
My sun setup on 12/29/2012 19:04:46 MST Print View

I wore a long sleeve Golite base layer, I think it was a bl1. Combined with long pants, bandana and visor and sun gloves I only had to wear sunscreen in the snow on my face. I wore this setup the whole way through SoCal and would likely do it again if hiking the PCT again. Here's a picture

http://Postholer.Com/journal/viewJournal.php?sid=0baa4b20725b7d24df10351245b2aedf&jtype=photo&entry_id=25879&photo_id=33071

Katy Anderson
(KatyAnderson) - F
Ex Officio Airstrip Lite shirts on 12/29/2012 19:05:33 MST Print View

For me a loose fitting thin long sleeved nylon shirt is great sun protection and wears a lot cooler and more comfortably for summer Sierra hiking than a wool shirt.

The ex officio airstrip lite is tried and true, has been around for years. Pricey but you can often find last years colors on sale for much less at places like Sierra Trading Post.

Steven Hall
(lundquistas) - F
Stink on 12/30/2012 11:32:43 MST Print View

Thanks guys, problem I've had with under armour or similar shirts is that they stink fast and if I'm going to be wearing the shirt for around 10 days I'd like to make sure that it fits the odors off!

John S.
(jshann) - F
Re: Stink on 12/30/2012 12:09:45 MST Print View

Good luck with that. I'd just wear Exofficio and rinse it out every few days while wearing my windshirt, IF I was hiking maybe with a supermodel...lol.

scott rebello
(scottrebello) - F
Ex Officio on 12/30/2012 21:14:59 MST Print View

Another vote for an Ex O shirt. With a micro wt wool t shirt under. For sun or bugs. 200 G so they arent super light.

peter vacco
(fluff@inreach.com) - M

Locale: no. california
shirt stink on 12/30/2012 21:45:56 MST Print View

since the tahoe rim is high in elevation, and it will probably be nice and dry, you can successfully deploy almost anything. i go with nylon, but have experimented with poly/cotton (as opposed to cotton/poly) and had very decent luck with it.
the cotton will make it sweeter to wear, and feel better under the pack belt.
because of bugs, comfort, and moisture control, no matter how warm, i'd prob layer a thin merino T under it. Minus-33 sells a nice Zip-T in merino. the wool will attend to the stink issue as well as is possible.

just my op.

cheers,
v.

Patrick O'Neil
(human) - F
Re: shirt stink on 12/31/2012 13:12:22 MST Print View

I have an arteryx phase sl long sleeve, probably the only non merino base layer that that I've tried that doesn't reek after a couple of hours (I've never actually tried merino though too expensive), I've worn it for 2-3 days at a time in Ecuador, not overnight hiking but with some day hikes of 3-5 hours. The thing nver stank on me. Another good thing is that the neck actually goes up to your neck.

Anything i've tried from patagonia has a massive neck, even their UV50 stuff which seems to defeat the purpose for me, they stink after an hour sitting around at home and most people I now would say I smell neutral, I don't even really need deodorant if I'm not wearing a suit.

Arcteryx does not have a UV rating and it seems it's made of a mesh, even so I never got burned even in direct sun at the equator. I also wear it for bike rides (up to 100km). One thing to note is that they are slim fitting, I normally go medium sizes (I'm 6'1" 170-175 pounds) but found the medium too revealing around my skinny fat gut. A large doesn't hang off of me. Unless you're comfortable with the stretched feeling on your stomach or you've got a six pack or a very flat stomach go with your regular sizing if not go up, .

It seems the phase sl has been "revised" I guess that's their way of raising the price and now it's about as expensive as merino but it's lighter, more compact, washes in the sink and dries fast (wear it damp and 10 minutes in the sun it will be dry). I have a few "running" long sleeve shirts and 2 or 3 patagonia shirts, I never wear them now. The phase sl is very light and the sleeves seem to be starting to fray a bit and look a little stained but so far no holes (after one season).

I have a skinny neck and wear a junior buff around my neck, along with shades, long pants and a hat I never burn now except for my hands. I burn really easily and I hate applying sunscreen all day so this has become the best solution, although my girlfriend's pretty mortified to be around me in this get up . . .

Wow I really sound like an ad, but for me it works. Sorry for the long winded message.

Eric Blumensaadt
(Danepacker) - MLife

Locale: Mojave Desert
Options on 12/31/2012 13:23:26 MST Print View

As a Mojave Desert resident I have to wear long sleeved shirts every time I hike/ have one of all the shirts below and 2 wide brimmed hats.


SHIRTS: (all are polyester)
1. REI Sahara
2. Columbia Titanium
3. Cabela's Guidewear

HATS:
1. wide brimmed cotton or polyester (Poly is my choice - lighter, MUCH faster drying)
2. fisherman's lilled hat W/ neck cape

PANTS:
1. REI Sahara (light polyester)
2. .511 tactical pants (heavier nylon)

Brett Peugh
(bpeugh) - F - M

Locale: Midwest
sun shirt on 12/31/2012 18:48:27 MST Print View

I have never found one I like that well. Either it is too expensive, stinks or doesn't breathe well. Usually I just use a very thin poly/cotton light colored dress shirt. Dries somewhat fast, doesn't stink too fast and is inexpensive. A compromise at best.

Warren Greer
(WarrenGreer) - F

Locale: SoCal
Mosquitos on 12/31/2012 20:51:40 MST Print View

Doesn't appear to be mentioned much in this thread. But, where you'll be there'll be mosquitos and a poly or wool shirt will not provide adequate protection unless you are really early/late in the season. Nylon will work a real treat offering excellent protection from them skeeters. So ExOfficio and REI Sahara shirts work great and I'm sure other in nylon will too. (The REI shirt was stated as poly earlier in the thread, but that is the liner only, not the shirt material) These nylon shirts also breath fairly well too.

Susan Papuga
(veganaloha) - M

Locale: USA
Re: Long sleeve shirt for sun protection on 12/31/2012 23:04:39 MST Print View

Hey Steve,

I'm planning on doing the TRT this summer as well.

My favorite L/S shirt is still the Columbia PFG snap-front shirt. Retail is about $45.00. Our local Sports Authority carries them, you may find them online as well. The snap-front is better than the button-downs for fabric, ventilation and other features.

It has SPF 30, is wind resistant, is light and comfortable against your skin and dries very quickly, is durable and doesn't retain odor either.

Best,

Susan

Warren Greer
(WarrenGreer) - F

Locale: SoCal
PFG on 12/31/2012 23:52:01 MST Print View

A friend has a shirt like that but I don't think he's worn it in buggy situations. Susan, how is the bug protection of the PFG shirts?

edited to directly address Susan. Thanks Susan.

Edited by WarrenGreer on 01/01/2013 15:08:41 MST.

Bradford Rogers
(Mocs123) - MLife

Locale: Southeast Tennessee
Re: Re: Long sleeve shirt for sun protection on 01/01/2013 12:41:49 MST Print View

Railriders Eco Mesh, Adventure, or Bone Flats shirt. They are all nylon and unlike the ex officieo, their venting works with a pack on. Nylon doesn't stink as bad or as fast as poly, but it still will stink some. Nylon does dry quickly and not only has sun protection but bug protection.

jeffrey armbruster
(book) - M

Locale: Northern California
"Long sleeve shirt for sun protection" on 01/01/2013 15:45:10 MST Print View

I forgot to mention that my Mountain Hardware nylon sun shirt has vents that run under the arms and down the side. This is brilliant if you're wearing a pack--as opposed to back vents. Also, it has a great zip front pocket. And again, skeeterproof! Sorry, I've forgotten the model name.

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Thrift store on 01/01/2013 16:35:10 MST Print View

I have all kinds of expensive shirts, most of which have been mentioned. But to be honest a 60/40 cotton dress shirt at your local thrift store works just as well.

Brett Peugh
(bpeugh) - F - M

Locale: Midwest
huh? on 01/01/2013 18:27:56 MST Print View

Just a quick note to all the people pushing the hiking shirts like the RailRiders Exo Mesh. How do you find them breatheable? Yes, there is the venting on the side but I never found that much in the front or back and would sweat a lot in them when the temp was above 90F, I did any exertion and there was no breeze blowing on my side. I found more breatheablitiy in the really thin dress shirts, those seemed to breathe all around and a breeze at any angle would help to cool me down.

John S.
(jshann) - F
Re: huh? on 01/01/2013 18:49:01 MST Print View

Brett, if you are naked you will sweat at 90 F.

Susan Papuga
(veganaloha) - M

Locale: USA
Re: PFG on 01/02/2013 02:54:53 MST Print View

Warren,

I haven't been noticably bitten through these shirts despite them not having any bug chemicals applied to the fabric. I suppose a really big cloud of determined mozzies, black flies, chiggers, noseeums, etc could get you through it, but I'm not sure of any breathable shirt that offers complete bug protection.

For me, I can use DEET or whatever for the occassions when bugs are out. Personally, I probably wouldn't want bug stuff in my clothes, as I choose my shirt based on other attributes like sun protection, lightweight, breathable, quick drying, comfort, etc. I've been happy with the PFGs when I want a L/S shirt. Like I said, they are also pretty wind resistant despite the light fabric and back vents. They hold up well and come clean pretty easy by hand-washing.

Hope this helps.

Susan

Dean F.
(acrosome) - MLife

Locale: Back in the Front Range
Rail Riders on 01/02/2013 11:23:10 MST Print View

I guess I'll +27 the RailRiders, particularly the EcoMesh shirts. I have come to fight the UL tide regarding just wearing your base layer top as a shirt. I detest slathering anything greasy on my skin so I avoid sunscreen and bug dope. Thus I am a firm long-pants (not shorts) and long-sleeves (not baselayer T-shirt) hiker in almost ANY conditions I can think of. I just did a hike in the Grand Canyon this spring and the long-sleeved baselayer didn't really work for me, even with some of the thinnest wool I could find. First, it's hot, but actually that's not TOO terrible. But also I was exposing a relatively expensive wool shirt to snags and scrapes, so I had to be careful about tearing it or wearing holes in it. Kind of a pain.

I have since discovered the RailRiders Ecomesh pants and shirts, and I love them. For summer hiking here in the mountain west you rarely need your baselayer for most daylight walks- I seem to worry about overheating in the sun far more often than getting cold. And they can be bought with InsectShield(tm), which I presume is some sort of Permethrin treatment.

And, heck, if it does get cold you can always add that baselayer shirt under the RailRiders nylon top.

Bradford Rogers
(Mocs123) - MLife

Locale: Southeast Tennessee
Re: huh? on 01/02/2013 12:13:06 MST Print View

Brett,

You may be refering to this but RR and similar shirts are mainly for sun protection and are not intended for hiking below tree line. I would never wear one in the hot and humid SE where I live, but they worked great on the JMT and Wind River the past two years. I would not recomend one for the midwest, southeast, northeast, or even the northwest. They are great in hot, arid/semi arid conditions in the Sierras and Rockies and any time sun protection is top priority. Rail Riders shirts were originally for sailing, and saltwater fly fishing. The Eco Mesh shirt was designed for a ultra marathon in the sahara desert.

Brad Fisher
(wufpackfn) - M

Locale: NC/TN/VA Mountains
Re: Re: huh? on 01/02/2013 12:20:16 MST Print View

+1 Arcteryx Motus LS

Wore one on the JMT for a week last year without any stink.

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: Rail Riders on 01/02/2013 12:56:13 MST Print View

I wear both Eco-Mesh pants and shirts on a lot of my trips. Even in triple digit heat if I expect cold at higher elevations. Both are among my favorite pieces of gear. But they are not cheap.

For most people a thin 640/40 cotton/poly blend dress shirt will be just fine. I hiked in these for decades.

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: Re: Re: huh? on 01/02/2013 17:47:41 MST Print View

"+1 Arcteryx Motus LS"

+ another 1. I've been using one the past 2 seasons in the Sierra with great results. It has a UPF rating of something like 53, weighs ~4 oz in a size S, and breathes superbly. I can't comment on the stink factor, since I don't. ;0)

Edited for content.

Edited by ouzel on 01/02/2013 17:49:06 MST.

Brett Peugh
(bpeugh) - F - M

Locale: Midwest
clarification and thanks on 01/02/2013 18:16:06 MST Print View

'Brett, if you are naked you will sweat at 90 F.'

I usually don't if I am just standing around in the shade. With most hiking shirts I do. Yes, nylon doesn't stink but it doesn't breathe that well either. I think my First Ascent windshirt unzipped about half way down breathes just about as much.

'Brett, You may be refering to this but RR and similar shirts are mainly for sun protection and are not intended for hiking below tree line. I would never wear one in the hot and humid SE where I live, but they worked great on the JMT and Wind River the past two years. I would not recomend one for the midwest, southeast, northeast, or even the northwest. They are great in hot, arid/semi arid conditions in the Sierras and Rockies and any time sun protection is top priority. Rail Riders shirts were originally for sailing, and saltwater fly fishing. The Eco Mesh shirt was designed for a ultra marathon in the sahara desert.'

Okay, I can see that and I acknowledge that it applies to the original poster. I still think you would bake in them even in arid conditions in an EcoMesh, that is why I sold mine. I wish I knew it was just for above tree line before I bought it but no one said squat when I asked, like three times. I think everyone one here lives around mountains. To get above the treeline where I live I would have to drive more than 12 hours.

Randy Nelson
(rlnunix) - F - M

Locale: Rockies
Shirts on 01/02/2013 20:38:44 MST Print View

I'm apparently very lucky in that I don't stink while backpacking. That or my sense of smell is gone but same difference. Champion C9 long sleeves ploy shirts from Target for me. Tried more expensive shirts and got tired of putting snags in them. At $12 a pop, I don't worry about that. They don't have an SPF rating AFAIK but they provide very good coverage and I haven't seen a hint of evidence that I need sunblock under them. I've had skin cancer issues so I stay on top of that. Some permethrin spray during bug season and I'm good to go.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Long sleeve shirt for sun protection on 01/02/2013 20:54:56 MST Print View

I just paint my torso and arms reflective silver. No need for a shirt at all.

Works so far.

Mike W
(skopeo) - F - M

Locale: British Columbia
sun protection on 01/02/2013 21:38:13 MST Print View

>> I just paint my torso and arms reflective silver. No need for a shirt at all.<<

Looking good Doug!!

Doug heads out in the sun

Susan Papuga
(veganaloha) - M

Locale: USA
Columbia PFG L/S Shirt on 01/03/2013 01:51:34 MST Print View

I just checked the label, the model name is Timiami II.

Mike M
(mtwarden) - MLife

Locale: Montana
sun hoody on 01/03/2013 07:23:57 MST Print View

disappointed that Pat sun hoody is too warm as I was looking at that as a possibility. I can tell you can cross off the Ibex Indie for warm sun protection- it's too warm, great mid-layer (or a base layer in very cold weather).

the Merino 1 long sleeve does pretty good in warm, but probably not hot. Mine is a darker color, so maybe a lighter color??

the long sleeve shirt I'm looking at now is the OR Echo- it's UPF rated and only weighs 3.9 oz in a men's large

Rick M
(rmjapan) - F

Locale: Tokyo, Japan
Re: sun hoody on 01/03/2013 08:36:07 MST Print View

Mike, like I mentioned at the top of this thread the Lightweight Sun Hoody is an excellent top for alpine hiking at elevation where average daytime temps are ~27c and RH<50%. It looks like a blend of smooth cap 1 on the inner surface and cap 2 mesh on the outside. Whatever it is, it has some mojo as I actually feel cooler in the sun wearing it than not. Breathes well enough because when the wind kicks up I inevitably need to put on the Houdini. Of course I still sweat in it but the sleeves are easy to yank up for quick venting too. Kangaroo pocket is quite useful. My size XL weighs 330g, so about the same as a typical LS nylon fishing shirt. Paid $30 for it during one of Patagonia's semi annual 50% off sales.

Edited by rmjapan on 01/03/2013 08:38:50 MST.

Mike M
(mtwarden) - MLife

Locale: Montana
Re: Re: sun hoody on 01/03/2013 08:42:42 MST Print View

^ thanks for the clarification, looks like I'll put it back on the list :) if it can handle 80's, I'm good to go

Nathan Watts
(7sport) - MLife
Re: Re: Re: sun hoody on 01/03/2013 16:44:26 MST Print View

And like I mentioned earlier in the thread, I've got a few and don't find I use them for hiking and think they're too hot to wear in hot sunny conditions, but I don't regret buying them in the least. They're a great article of clothing.

Mike M
(mtwarden) - MLife

Locale: Montana
Re: Re: Re: Re: sun hoody on 01/03/2013 18:24:16 MST Print View

Nathan- what would you say is the upper limit for you w/ the hoody? If it will get me into the low 80's, we really don't get much hotter than that in the mountains and rarely that hot.

thanks

Mike

Randy Cain
(bagboy) - MLife

Locale: Palmdale, CA
Nylon shirts on 11/23/2013 20:09:59 MST Print View

I used to live back east and hike in the miserable humidity. Because it was hot, I initially felt that a short-sleeved polyester shirt would be best, so that's what I used for a long time. But bugs (flies, horseflies, gnats, mosquitoes, etc) drove me nuts having exposed arms. And the biting types can nail you right through the fabric. When I switched to a long-sleeve RailRiders Madison River shirt, life was instantly better! The shirt dried extremely fast, and I was pretty amazed that I didn't really feel any hotter in it. And the bugs can't bite through the nylon, so that was a HUGE advantage. I eventually moved west and now spend my time in the High Sierras and find that the same Madison River shirt is my favorite. It provides great sun and bug protection and dries in minutes. So as I go in and out of buggy zones along the hike, I'm not a bit bothered if I look down and see 5 mosquitoes on the front of my shirt, because I know they can't bite through it. Not the case with other fabrics. I also love that I can unbutton the front for ventilation while hiking, and the mesh strip up the sides helps with this as well. I wear not only a long-sleeve nylon shirt, but also nylon pants and a big ole Sunday Afternoons sun hat, so in terms of exposed skin, that really just leaves my hands and front of my face from maybe the nose downward. So I don't need much sunscreen. I read online this year of people complaining of the terrible mosquito pressure in the Sierras, yet I spent a considerable amount of time in the Sierras this year without a single bite...no doubt because I'm wearing stuff they can't bite through. I never once resorted to using DEET, which I had with me just in case. Sometimes when hiking, I'd look down and see 8-10 mosquitoes on my pant legs. I wouldn't even bother to swat them, because they'd just eventually go away on their own. The folks with lots of exposed skin were being eaten alive apparently.


I'll also add a note on the R.R. Madison River shirt compared to the Bone Flats shirt. Despite what R.R. advertises about the Bone Flats being "ultralight," it actually weighs almost an ounce MORE than then Madison River shirt. The fabric on the Bone Flats IS noticeably thinner, but the response I got from R.R. was that it weighs more because there is additional fabric in the shirt. Where? I have no idea. And why their advertised weight of the Bone Flats isn't even CLOSE to its real weight is also a mystery. I'm not too happy about their failure to correct the weight of the Bone Flats shirt in their product description. Regardless, I'll keep on loving my Madison River shirt. It freakin' rocks!!

Edited by bagboy on 11/23/2013 20:12:35 MST.