Where the FBI stats wrong? I used the 5, 10 and 20 years that were available on the FBI website. You used stats from 30,40 and 50 years. Both stats are right, so what's the point? You just ignore the 5,10 and 20 year because they don't support your position.
What is the "issue at hand"? The title of the thread is "Newtown", not should we ban guns in the US. The thread has split into many things like gun control, gun rights, mental health and relationship to guns, murders in different countries, etc. So I'm just confused with the redirection comment. Are you the moderator for the thread like in a debate?
So let me redirect myself back to the issue should guns be ban in the US. Since that is your position let me ask you a question. Let's say we ban guns in the US to all citizens. This will leave us with law enforcement, military and criminals having guns. How do we get the guns away from the criminals?
BTW, I enjoy some of your comments. Makes me think and reassess my beliefs. I'm more careful with my sources and do more research. However you belittling comments (insane, idiots, you are the reason for the problem, etc) just get old after awhile.