Joshua Tree CRHT Run
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Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
Joshua Tree CRHT Run on 11/30/2012 09:12:43 MST Print View

What: A single day (not overnight) crossing of the California Riding and Hiking Trail in Joshua Tree National Monument. Roughly 38 miles (according to trail markers).

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When: Late February?
Option A: Car camp at Black Rock Campground on a Friday night, run Saturday, shuttle back, spend the night, and leave Sunday.
Option B (more adventurous): Same as option A but...doing it as a night run with a full moon has always been high on my to-do list. We could start just before sundown and run until...
February 2013 full moon is on Monday, Feb. 25th. Saturday the 23rd moonrise is at 4:02PM at 97.2% illuminated. Barring clouds, it would be BRIGHT out there.
***Date is totally negotiable. But I'll likely need at least a month and a half from now to get my legs back.

I'm obviously in favor of the moonlight traverse.

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Who: Anyone that understands the nature of running self-supported* across nearly 40 miles of desert trail (possibly at night). High temps for Feb are ~65, lows are ~37.
*There are ways to stash water on the route.

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Oh, and PRIZES!!!!
Who doesn't like PRIZES?!
I'll likely do up a commemorative batch of beer mugs, ramen bowls, or gigantic neck medallions.

If I don't hear from any interested parties within a week or two, I'm just going to plan on a solo Feb. 23rd moonlight run and go from there...

So who's game?

Art ...
(asandh) - F
Re: Joshua Tree CRHT Run on 11/30/2012 12:41:39 MST Print View

hmmmm, how old is this thread ? J Tree is a National Park now :-)

been to Josh over 600,000 times, but its been a few years and most of them were climbing trips.
would be nice to see the place again.

haven't done much hiking running in the Park.
where does the trail begin ? Blackrock CG ?
end ?????

I could probably get one or two others to tag along.

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Edited by asandh on 11/30/2012 12:57:10 MST.

Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
Re: Re: Joshua Tree CRHT Run on 11/30/2012 14:36:26 MST Print View

Oops...I forget it's a park now. I'm remembering the old days...

The CRHT runs from Black Rock Campground to the North Entrance station near 29 Palms. It can be done either direction with a shuttle and water can be stashed at the halfway point near Ryan Campground. It makes sense to camp at Black Rock as you can reserve sites there from home...

It runs through some good park scenery...I like the Covington Flats area of the beginning quite a bit.

What do think of a night run with a bright moon Art?

Art ...
(asandh) - F
Re: Re: Re: Joshua Tree CRHT Run on 12/01/2012 09:45:00 MST Print View

First off, looks like you started 2 threads for this topic.
Maybe consolidate and cancel one before we get any further down the road.

Night run
not opposed to it, and my buddy John is up for anything unusual.
but I do love the desert vistas ... I suppose with a full moon there is still a lot to see.

Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
Re: Re: Re: Re: Joshua Tree CRHT Run on 12/01/2012 10:03:40 MST Print View

I'm guessing that people new to the trail or area will want to do it by day for the views...which is fine by me.

How does Saturday, Feb. 23rd sound for the run?

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I'll go consolidate that other thread now...

Mike M
(mtwarden) - MLife

Locale: Montana
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Joshua Tree CRHT Run on 12/01/2012 14:47:16 MST Print View

Craig- count me as a definite maybe :) Looks like I could fly into Phoenix and then a 4 hr drive, we have an airline that has cheap rates to Phoenix (but only flies a couple of times a week).

As I've never been there, day would be preferable- although a night run sounds neat as well.

Mike

Art ...
(asandh) - F
Re: Joshua Tree CRHT Run on 12/03/2012 12:50:00 MST Print View

talked to John and he's in too,

so better start that training Craig.

my one concern with a night run is just how well marked that CRHT is. desert trails are sometimes less obvious in places.

Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
Joshua Tree CRHT Run on 12/03/2012 13:09:18 MST Print View

I think we should go for it as a day run at this point. I've done 50% of it at night and it wasn't bad, but it will certainly complicate things and likely just kill the view for most people doing it. I really only want to do it at night because I've been through it in the day already.

Training...hmmm...
Let's just say I'm simply out to finish.

Art ...
(asandh) - F
Re: Joshua Tree CRHT Run on 12/03/2012 13:16:29 MST Print View

finish is our only goal too, but you want to be able to sit up at the end, hold that beer up high.

do you know of a trail map, want to check if the trail goes by any of my old climbing spots.

Mike M
(mtwarden) - MLife

Locale: Montana
Re: Re: Joshua Tree CRHT Run on 12/03/2012 16:03:50 MST Print View

just found out that JT is closer to Las Vegas than Phoenix, rates are a little cheaper to Vegas :)

Art found this map, probably better ones

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Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
Joshua Tree CRHT Run on 12/03/2012 17:23:03 MST Print View

The CRHT swings wide of most of the established climbing areas, staying mostly in more of the backcountry. I use a Nat. Geo. topo for Joshua Tree; theirs has pretty good detail.

Mike, look into whether or not you can get a flight into Palm Springs. If so, you could likely be picked up and avoid dealing with car rentals/driving.

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: Joshua Tree CRHT Run on 12/06/2012 17:12:58 MST Print View

All the major airlines go into Palm Springs -- cost is usually minimal. And if you are really ambitious just hike from the airport to Long Canyon in Desert Hot Springs to the campground. Probably around 24 miles.

Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
Re: Re: Joshua Tree CRHT Run on 12/06/2012 18:15:31 MST Print View

You should come out and have a beer/dinner with us Nick.

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: Re: Re: Joshua Tree CRHT Run on 12/06/2012 18:24:34 MST Print View

"You should come out and have a beer/dinner with us Nick."

You think I can't run with you young bucks?






... well you're right! Maybe I'll take my camper up there and make it a weekend with my better half.

Jacob D
(JacobD) - F

Locale: North Bay
Re: Joshua Tree CRHT Run on 12/07/2012 16:13:08 MST Print View

Craig, I was quite stoked by the adventure that you and the others embarked on across the Grand Canyon and back - inspired enough to get me out running on roads, trails, whatever... which traditionally I've sorta despised. Strangely, now I sort of bask in the experience.

My hopes are that one of you guys (you know who you are) will be thinking about putting a long run/hike like this together around fall of 2013 when I'll be better prepared.

I'm *probably going to sit this one out, but just out of curiosity.... has anyone found/looked at an elevation profile?

And, how many hours are you out there start to finish on this (ballpark)?


- Jacob.

Mike M
(mtwarden) - MLife

Locale: Montana
elevation profile on 12/07/2012 19:10:30 MST Print View

haven't seen an elevation profile, but this link describes the trail pretty well (w/ elevation gain/loss)

from what I've read the majority of the trail is runnable, I'd think anywhere from 8-12 hours would be in the ballpark

Jacob D
(JacobD) - F

Locale: North Bay
Re: elevation profile on 12/07/2012 19:55:13 MST Print View

Mike, is the link you were going to post?

http://www.trimbleoutdoors.com/ViewTrip/410883


Doesn't sound too bad at all from that description.

Mike M
(mtwarden) - MLife

Locale: Montana
link on 12/07/2012 20:30:32 MST Print View

would be nice if I actually posted a link! :)

here's the one I was looking at

http://www.protrails.com/trails/view/348

that's a useful link you provided

Edited by mtwarden on 12/07/2012 20:33:10 MST.

Art ...
(asandh) - F
Re: elevation profile on 12/08/2012 08:35:38 MST Print View

thanks for the good links describing the route.

it does not seem like a difficult route, except for some staying awake so as not to get lost.

for me personally, I'd say somewhere from 8.5 - 10.5 hrs, leaning toward the slow side because we may have to carry extra water, and of course I'd like to take in the scenary a bit too.

Edited by asandh on 12/08/2012 08:36:52 MST.

Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
Joshua Tree Run Date??? on 12/09/2012 21:38:04 MST Print View

Coming from the R2R2R and the likes, it's certainly not a hard route. Rolling and flat terrain with only one small climb to really speak of.

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Does Saturday, February 23rd sound like a good day for the run? I'd like to finalize the date soon for training purposes and to reserve a campsite for Friday and Saturday night.