Difference between Patagonia Houdini Full-zip Jacket and Patagonia Houdini Jacket
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Daniel Kats
(boompig)
Difference between Patagonia Houdini Full-zip Jacket and Patagonia Houdini Jacket on 11/27/2012 19:41:03 MST Print View

Full-zip:
http://www.patagonia.com/us/product/patagonia-mens-houdini-full-zip-jacket?p=24017-1-472

(presumably) not-full-zip:
http://www.patagonia.com/us/product/mens-houdini-jacket-windbreaker?p=24140-0-042

I don't understand - are they basically two versions of the same jacket? Is one of them newer? I notice a .3 oz weight difference, a price difference, and a small material difference (1.2 oz 10-denier vs 1 oz 15-denier).

Other than that, they look like the same jacket... what am I missing?

Clayton Mauritzen
(GlacierRambler) - F - M

Locale: NW Montana
Re: Difference between Patagonia Houdini Full-zip Jacket and Patagonia Houdini Jacket on 11/27/2012 19:44:51 MST Print View

The first one is the older version of the Houdini. The new, reduced price Houdini is the second link. Basically, they're the same jacket with some very minor differences.

Stephan Doyle
(StephanCal)
Re: Difference between Patagonia Houdini Full-zip Jacket and Patagonia Houdini Jacket on 11/27/2012 21:04:04 MST Print View

New version is cheaper, more water resistant, lighter, slimmer cut. In their running line.

Old version is more breathable, more expensive, and classic. From their alpine climbing line.

Rick M
(rmjapan) - F

Locale: London, UK
Difference between Patagonia Houdini Full-zip Jacket and Patagonia Houdini Jacket on 11/27/2012 21:11:48 MST Print View

Lemmon Lime is Spring 2012 model. Current Fall 2012 model uses slightly sheerer fabric, a covered pocket zipper, raglan shoulders and what looks like a gusset along the arms.

Jeff Jeff
(TwoFortyJeff) - F
Re: Difference between Patagonia Houdini Full-zip Jacket and Patagonia Houdini Jacket on 11/28/2012 19:51:31 MST Print View

The new one also changed the arm cuffs. It looks like they provide more coverage of the hands and only use a half elastic cuff, but I haven't seen it in person.

They usually don't stock the Houdini this time of the year. I am hoping they still bring the older one from the alpine line back for early spring like they normally do.

Maris L
(Ablaut) - M
Cuffs & Hem on 11/28/2012 21:10:43 MST Print View

They did elasticize only half the cuff - makes it more comfortable pushed up the arm. Same treatment for the hem, adjustable elastic only on the rear half - and it works - doesn't ride up as easily as other full-elastic hems or scrunch up into a funny shape.