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Michael Bachman
(rivrfox) - F - M

Locale: Western Slope, Colorado
Mountain town/city advice: Future move on 11/19/2012 15:12:50 MST Print View

Hi,

Mill Creek Hike 11/12

I currently live in the western slope of Colorado in the Gunnison Valley. I have been living in Crested Butte and Gunnison since 2007 and absolutely love it for a lot of reasons yet am considering a move in 2013. Here are some general +/-'s on the valley.

Likes: Amazing outdoor recreation extremely close to home, tight knit small town community feel, not a lot of traffic, older friends are like family. Amazing biking, winter backcountry sports, backpacking galore, etc. Lot of character and charm in Crested Butte. Sunny. Only hot during July in CB. I try to stay in the high country hiking.

Dislikes: Almost a bit confining, bad fem to male ratio, not a lot of job diversity, expensive, many seasonal home owners artificially boost the cost of living at the north end of the valley. Gunnison can get -40 although it feels much warmer. Supermarket sucks in CB. Health food stores are great but a bit pricey in both ends of the valley.

About myself: Early thirties bachelor, science backround working outside of my field with varied interests in alternative healing, sustainability, permaculture, etc. I enjoy photography, hiking, music, art, backcountry winter travel, backpacking obv. and my politics are green orientated. I feel we are stewards of the land co-existing with nature. We truly own nothing but our own conscience & our actions. I also have an aussie border collie who needs to run a lot or have a job.

Although I'm currently looking at Colorado in the Front Range and possibly western Washington as well. I'm open to any towns or cities you might recommend. North Cascades? I'm possibly looking to get a fixer upper that I can live in and then maybe flip depending on the housing market. I would be able to put 20-30k down on a 120k but would want to spend less on a fixer upper. Open to building a something like a strawbale as well.

I've lived for a couple months in Steamboat, then moved to Northern Cali and then to the Gunnison Valley. I prefer living on the outskirts of a city or anywhere in a mountain town. I've been perusing some different articles and city-data.com and will update as I go along.

Look forward to any feedback from personal experience. Thanks for your time!

Cheers,
Michael *edited for grammar*

Edited by rivrfox on 11/19/2012 15:17:59 MST.

Michael Bachman
(rivrfox) - F - M

Locale: Western Slope, Colorado
thread ref. on 11/19/2012 15:28:57 MST Print View

Thread referenced for later: have to run..:)

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=27796&disable_pagination=1

Randy Martin
(randalmartin) - F

Locale: Colorado
Re: Mountain town/city advice: Future move on 11/19/2012 15:40:59 MST Print View

What are your priorities?

Certain Cons you listed are consequences of living in a small mountain community anywhere (i.e., high prices of food, isolated socially, poor job prospects etc...). I would suggest looking at somewhere with proximity to a decent College/University. That always creates a vibrancy socially and economically. Are you willing to live in a larger city that has proximity to the mountains? Somewhere like Boise, ID or Boulder, CO?

Kier Selinsky
(Kieran) - F

Locale: Seattle, WA
Seattle... on 11/19/2012 15:48:45 MST Print View

it's an obvious option. I love it here. This place is a candyland. The options for exploration are nothing short of amazing.

There's also lots of decent sized cities outside of Seattle where you might be able to find work. And there's some interesting public transportation options if had to work in downtown Seattle but wanted to live outside of Seattle (there's a train that serves areas north of seattle, and I take and love the ferry from the west side of the Sound to downtown).

Feel free to ask detailed questions or PM me.

Eugene Smith
(Eugeneius) - MLife

Locale: Nuevo Mexico
Re: Mountain town/city advice: Future move on 11/19/2012 15:49:00 MST Print View

Do some digging around on Silver City, NM.

The climate is nice, small tightly woven community, quirky, MUCH more affordable than anything in CO, and great outdoor opportunities right in town or from town. The Gila Wilderness has suffered some serious fire damage, but the land is healing and people are still making it out to the springs, mountains, canyons and rivers. The CDT makes its way through the area, so its a popular layover for many travellers. Its not upscale/affluent Front Range CO, but it is chock full of character and unique opportunities in the region for land acquisition and use.

Michael Bachman
(rivrfox) - F - M

Locale: Western Slope, Colorado
Howdy! on 11/19/2012 15:51:58 MST Print View

Thanks for everybody dropping in!!!

Randy, I'm actually open to both just considering a change. Right now I don't have a priority over the other but am leaning towards a slightly more dynamic & diverse town/city.

I would consider living in Boise and maybe on the outskirts of Boulder. I've never been to Boise but when I visited a co-op in Boulder I founds it very friendly, liberal and yet quite expensive down town.

Will be on later tonight to check back in and read/respond to the rest of you. Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts/experiences with me. :)

Salud, M

Edited by rivrfox on 11/19/2012 15:53:38 MST.

Joe Clement
(skinewmexico) - MLife

Locale: Southwest
Mountain town/city advice: Future move on 11/19/2012 16:07:34 MST Print View

Silver City would be great, if my brother-in-law didn't live there. I think you're gonna have to get in a metro area to get that guy/girl ratio synced up.

Brian Johns
(bcutlerj) - M

Locale: NorCal
Mountain town/city: Advice ... on 11/19/2012 16:21:13 MST Print View

Two places I've lived that felt "right" and more or less fit the bill you're after, Missoula Montana, and Asheville, NC. Both towns have universities and are probably better on the Guy:Girl than other places. Missoula has everything you're looking for and, ten years ago, a very reasonable cost of living. Asheville is cheap enough to, at least compared to California. Asheville has lots of character and access to the beautiful southern Appalachians right out the back door. Great Smoky mountains, great rivers, not so much winter mountaineering. Missoula would have more of the latter, and not a terrible haul from other great places. Bozeman is nice enough too, though I've never lived there. That said, I think I would enjoy Tahoe City or Truckee California, but I can see where they could close in after a little while, not unlike Crested Butte has for you.

jeffrey armbruster
(book) - M

Locale: Northern California
Mountain town/city advice: Future move" on 11/19/2012 16:42:14 MST Print View

Bellingham, perhaps? If you can handle the rain! (A tad worse than Seattle). College town, close access to lots of outdoor activity. Not too big; doesn't feel "urban" to me. Great food. Loooong wet winter.

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: Mountain town/city advice: Future move" on 11/19/2012 17:02:52 MST Print View

"Bellingham, perhaps? If you can handle the rain!"

Or maybe Mount Vernon, about 25-30 miles south of Bellingham. You might be able to pick up a relatively cheap house on its outskirts or in Burlingame just to the east.
It's in the Skagit Valley. If you like to grow things, it has some of the best agricultural soil in Washington, Class II soil in many places with seasonal high water table the only limitation.

Further south, much further, is Bishop, CA, in the Owens Valley. A beautiful, friendly town at the foot of the Sierra with a surprising number of amenities for a town of 4,000. If you're into mountains, it's a hard place to beat, and you should definitely be able to find a fixer upper in one of the smaller towns to the south, but still within easy driving distance of Bishop, e.g. Big Pine, Independence.

David Chenault
(DaveC) - BPL Staff - F

Locale: Crown of the Continent
re: mountain town advice on 11/19/2012 17:32:29 MST Print View

On Missoula (were I lived while going to grad school, moved north 2.4 years ago).

Cost of living is reasonable compared to a place like Boulder or urban SoCal. Problem is that most jobs pay ~20-40% less than in more populous areas. Trail access from town is awesome, vast BC ski potential in all directions, though the approaches/bushwacking will be about 1000% gnarlier than in CB and after one season you'll want a sled. Weather in town during late Oct-April is horrible (rain, inversions), but better in the mountains. Ideologically you'd fit right in.

Summer backpacking, fly fishing, hunting, and packrafting options are bettered only by other, less-urbane places nearby.

rOg w
(rOg_w) - F

Locale: rogwilmers.wordpress
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Aaron Croft
(aaronufl) - M

Locale: Alaska
Colorado on 11/19/2012 22:43:56 MST Print View

I agree with Rog above. Durango is a beautiful place and on my short list, but it might not be much livelier than where you are currently.

Since you're looking at the Front Range, I must plug my town, Fort Collins. Really nice neighborhoods, and quite a bit of land and fixer uppers available out in Poudre Canyon or the foothills. It is a pretty progressive city for the most part, but feels a bit more down to earth than say, Boulder. Close to Lory State Park, Horsetooth Mountain Open Space, Devil's Backbone Open Space, Poudre/Rist Canyons, and about an hour to RMNP. I also like that is far enough North that it isn't as congested as the rest of the Front Range. Add to that a ton of microbreweries, a university, and a great community, and it is hard beat.

I feel that Fort Collins, while not a "mountain" town, meets a lot of the criteria you're looking for.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: Colorado on 11/20/2012 07:38:29 MST Print View

Boulder feels more like a European City to me.

Christopher Mills
(Hiker816) - MLife

Locale: Denver
Re: Colorado Mountain Town advice on 11/20/2012 11:07:07 MST Print View

Have you considered Golden, CO? Great access to all things outdoors, MUCH cheaper than Boulder, and close to Denver so you have access to the Denver job market, plus a major airport. Golden has a small town feel, but because of its proximity to Denver its culture is closer to what you'd expect in a larger urban city.

Gregory Allen
(Gallen1119) - M

Locale: Golden, CO
Colorado towns on 11/20/2012 11:23:58 MST Print View

+1 Golden

I would like to trade places with you.

Chris Ramias
(Lizard)
consider utah as well on 11/20/2012 11:24:56 MST Print View

I've been considering a move this myself. In addition to some of the Colorado towns and Tahoe mentioned by others, the other place that's on my radar is Salt Lake City. There's excellent hiking right outside of town, and the Winds, Tetons, and all of the southern Utah playground are less than a day's drive.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: Re: Colorado on 11/20/2012 11:56:58 MST Print View

I would love to be able to live in Colorado but have to stay put in Michigan for another 26 months.

Joe Clement
(skinewmexico) - MLife

Locale: Southwest
Mountain town/city advice: Future move on 11/20/2012 13:10:24 MST Print View

I'm not sure I've ever been in a town in CO that I considered inexpensive. Or reasonable. Maybe I've lived in hell too long. I was looking at a vacation house in Moab, and was shocked at the cost.

David Chenault
(DaveC) - BPL Staff - F

Locale: Crown of the Continent
houses in places that don't suck on 11/20/2012 14:41:20 MST Print View

"I'm not sure I've ever been in a town in CO that I considered inexpensive. Or reasonable. Maybe I've lived in hell too long. I was looking at a vacation house in Moab, and was shocked at the cost."


Sterling, CO will set you right.

When we were looking in Missoula ~3 years ago we didn't find anything worth spending money on for less than 200k.