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Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
No more Twinkies or Ding Dongs on 11/16/2012 06:25:10 MST Print View

Hostess to close up shop. This is a sad day.

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/hostess-maker-twinkies-ding-dongs-says-closing-business-1C7112898

And the fruit pies, especially the lemon were a backpacking staple for me. Hope they can make a return.

Edited by kthompson on 11/16/2012 06:27:45 MST.

Kevin Babione
(KBabione) - MLife

Locale: Pennsylvania
No More Twinkies or Ding Dongs on 11/16/2012 06:39:02 MST Print View

One of my backpacking buddies has always carried Ding Dongs with him on our trips. They get pretty smushed in his pack and we've seen him put them in a cold stream during the summer (still wrapped) to try to get them to solidify a little.

I don't know what he'll do...

Katharina ....
(Kat_P) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Coast
Well on 11/16/2012 07:15:12 MST Print View

That's a cautionary tale...

Sean Staplin
(mtnrat) - MLife

Locale: Southern Cdn Rockies
DDs & Ts on 11/16/2012 07:16:57 MST Print View

Never had either. Just heard stories about em.

Mark Ries
(mtmnmark) - M

Locale: IOWAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
Re: No more Twinkies or Ding Dongs on 11/16/2012 07:20:35 MST Print View

Some times things happen for the best

Erik Basil
(EBasil) - M

Locale: Atzlan
Space Time Continuum on 11/16/2012 07:28:42 MST Print View

Developments like this will play havoc with the "currency" of fine cinematic gems, such as "Zombie Land", and the use of idiosyncratic expressions.

No more Twinkies? Ho-ho's? Ding-Dongs? Now, the leftover Twinkies will surely last a while, but how long until they've got the way of rotary dial phones, written letters and dare we consider, the mimeograph? Great, now another reason to receive blank stares from teenagers when I speak...

Cosmic Osmo
(cosmicosmo) - F
Not necessarily the end on 11/16/2012 10:06:32 MST Print View

Hostess is selling off all of its assets, and those assets include both the recipes and names of its products. It's very likely that some other manufacturer will continue making these, as the branding has a lot of goodwill.

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: Not necessarily the end on 11/16/2012 10:10:09 MST Print View

What I heard on news was that management made demands on labor

Labor refused to agree to management demands

Management shut down the business

Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
What a shame... on 11/16/2012 11:18:31 MST Print View

I love my enriched wheat flour, sugar, corn syrup, niacin, water, high fructose corn syrup, vegetable and/or animal shortening – containing one or more of partially hydrogenated soybean, cottonseed and canola oil, and beef fat, dextrose, whole eggs, modified corn starch, cellulose gum, whey, leavenings (sodium acid pyrophosphate, baking soda, monocalcium phosphate), salt, cornstarch, corn flour, corn syrup, solids, mono and diglycerides, soy lecithin, polysorbate 60, dextrin, calcium caseinate, sodium stearoyl lactylate, wheat gluten, calcium sulphate, natural and artificial flavors, caramel color, yellow #5, red #40 all in a convenient plastic wrapper.

If you ask me, it's the "solids" and "beef fat" that really make the recipe.

Richard Cullip
(RichardCullip) - M

Locale: San Diego County
Re: No more Twinkies or Ding Dongs on 11/16/2012 11:28:59 MST Print View

With the demise of Twinkies, I wonder what the vendors at our local county fair will deep fat fry next year?

Ben Crocker
(alexdrewreed) - M

Locale: Kentucky
Zombieland on 11/16/2012 11:40:13 MST Print View

The movie Zombieland just became dated.

Katharina ....
(Kat_P) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Coast
Re: Re: Not necessarily the end on 11/16/2012 11:43:28 MST Print View

Jerry:
"
What I heard on news was that management made demands on labor

Labor refused to agree to management demands

Management shut down the business"



What I hear is that Labor made demands on management. Management warned it could not survive this. Even heard about a dispute between baker's and teamsters; the latter accusing the former of causing the shut down.

Brad Fisher
(wufpackfn)

Locale: NC/TN/VA Mountains
Re: Re: Re: Not necessarily the end on 11/16/2012 12:17:12 MST Print View

Teamsters accepted changes and realized company was in a tough spot for various reasons. Teamster union boss was even ticked at Baker's union..go figure. Baker's were ticked off because bankruptcy judge approved the changes and forced them to accept. They decided is was better to strike. Company warned them it had no choice. Company sent a warning shot by closing down 3 plants and laid off 600 employees. Baker's union boss said the changes were just not reasonable, so now we have 18,000 unemployed people.

Now we have twinkies going for $500 a box on ebay.

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: Re: Re: Not necessarily the end on 11/16/2012 12:40:15 MST Print View

Ha!

I didn't mean to pass judgement on whether anyone was right or wrong

R S
(rps76) - F
Re: No more Twinkies or Ding Dongs on 11/16/2012 12:40:19 MST Print View

Yay unions. This is terrible.

Jeremy and Angela
(requiem) - F - M

Locale: Northern California
Twinkies on 11/16/2012 12:58:28 MST Print View

There's a nice overview of Hostess mess from the August issue of Fortune:
http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2012/07/26/hostess-twinkies-bankrupt/

"Still, it's clear from court documents and background interviews with a range of sources that practically nobody involved can shoot straight: The Teamsters* remain stuck in a time warp, unwilling to sufficiently adapt in a competitive marketplace. The PE firm failed to turn Hostess around after taking it over. The hedgies can't see beyond their internal rates of return. Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera."

*Since the Teamsters later agree, perhaps that should be "unions"

Scott S
(sschloss1) - F

Locale: New England
Business models on 11/16/2012 13:23:18 MST Print View

It's really simple: if your business model is so poor that you can't find workers willing to work for low enough salaries for you to be profitable, you need to be out of business. That's what happened. The free market works.

Justin Baker
(justin_baker) - F

Locale: Santa Rosa, CA
Re: No more Twinkies or Ding Dongs on 11/16/2012 14:54:07 MST Print View

This sucks. I really like Twinkies.

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: Re: No more Twinkies or Ding Dongs on 11/16/2012 15:26:01 MST Print View

DIY instructions (or should that be MYOG)
http://grist.org/living/umbras-second-helpings-how-to-make-organic-twinkies-video/

Brad Fisher
(wufpackfn)

Locale: NC/TN/VA Mountains
Re: Re: Re: No more Twinkies or Ding Dongs on 11/16/2012 15:42:44 MST Print View

Feel for employees. Imagine most would rather have job than be unemployed. Bad advice from union.