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Raymond Estrella
(rayestrella) - MLife

Locale: Northern Minnesota
NEMO Siren quilt on 11/10/2012 06:54:49 MST Print View

I got to spend some quality time with one of NEMO's Siren quilts this fall. I think it is a pretty good job for their first try.

I have a review of it here:

http://tinyurl.com/aw56ref

I had to stop using it as it is deer season now (I don't go out until it is done) and it will be too cold once I start back up next month.

Diplomatic Mike
(MikefaeDundee)

Locale: Under a bush in Scotland
Nemo quilt on 11/10/2012 07:21:04 MST Print View

Good review Ray.
The 'horizontal' line of the footbox end looks as if it might let in cold air as you turn. Did you find any difference in that regard? My quilts have the usual 'vertical split' at the end of the footbox.

Raymond Estrella
(rayestrella) - MLife

Locale: Northern Minnesota
footbox on 11/10/2012 08:43:28 MST Print View

You know Mike I was wondering that myself as all of my other quilts have been more of a V instead of straight across. But I did not recommend changing it in the review because I never had any issues with it.

Most of my use was in CA and the weather warmed up right as I got there so I really didn't have it at the low end much. Next spring I should see some lower temps to get a better idea of how it does at or below 30.

Diplomatic Mike
(MikefaeDundee)

Locale: Under a bush in Scotland
Re footbox. on 11/10/2012 08:57:07 MST Print View

It's maybe not an issue. Like yourself, i'm a restless side sleeper, so quilts were a prayer answered when i discovered them.
Good to see a mainstream manufacturer taking quilts seriously, though maybe our cottage guys wont be so happy. It seems quite expensive for a mass produced product though.

Raymond Estrella
(rayestrella) - MLife

Locale: Northern Minnesota
expensive on 11/10/2012 09:12:07 MST Print View

I have a feeling that material is pretty spendy.

I think they have it priced at the upper-middle and can see it for what they are using. I just posted a review of my children's GoLite quilts and see that they are saying theirs have an MSRP of $400.00 now. That is crazy. ;-)

todd harper
(funnymoney) - MLife

Locale: Sunshine State
Re: NEMO Siren quilt on 11/12/2012 14:35:25 MST Print View

Nice review and nice quilt Ray! Thank you for posting this.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: A very flat place (Grrrrrrrr)
Re: NEMO Siren quilt on 04/11/2014 16:14:26 MDT Print View

Hi Ray,

Just wondering how you got on with this quilt, any issue with the Synethic fill degrading, or the lack of top draw cord?

Cheers,

Stephen

Bob Moulder
(bobmny10562) - F - M

Locale: Westchester County
Recently got one on 04/11/2014 17:03:05 MDT Print View

@Stephen... the fill is 850 down, so should have pretty good longevity if treated right. I have an old (+25 years!) 650 down bag (Campmor +20) that is still in excellent shape, but a bit heavy by today's standards.

Based in large part on a Ray's review and the rave reviews from some other advocates of the quilt system, I decided to spend part of my REI dividend (plus the 20% discount!) on a Siren. First impression is that it is an extremely high quality product with a generous fill volume that compresses very nicely. Although the outer and inner shells are incredibly light and supple, I am not too concerned about longevity because I have always been very "easy" on gear. I just stuffed it in the pack bottom with no stuff sack and the weight of the other pack items flatten it with no effort at all.

I have not used it in the field yet but plan to in the next couple of weeks, in combination with a NeoAir Xlite. I will post some more observations after some actual experience using it.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: A very flat place (Grrrrrrrr)
Re: Recently got one on 04/11/2014 18:01:52 MDT Print View

Hi Bob,

Thanks for the reply. I had also got on on sale from REI on sale with dividend.
I am going to see how it looks at home, and then either return it or bring it on a trip in 2 weeks time.

Do you think the loft is even through out the quilt, do the baffles seem well filled?

Cheers,

Stephen

Bob Moulder
(bobmny10562) - F - M

Locale: Westchester County
Recently got one on 04/11/2014 19:22:17 MDT Print View

Stephen,

I think that at the very least you are going to be impressed enough with it to give it a couple of nights in the field.

The fully blocked baffles are about 8 inches square. The fill distribution is quite even in my sample.

Somebody in one review I read complained that the down cannot be shifted around to put more on top, less on bottom, but I think the coverage will be totally adequate for a 30 deg bag that weighs 19 ounces. I actually prefer the fixed baffles without down shifting. With a down hood and sleeping in other jackets or clothing layers, I am sure I could be comfortable down to 20 deg or perhaps lower. But, as you noted above, the lack of a top drawstring might be a limiting factor there, but I won't know for sure this season.

When it gets colder, I have a Marmot Plasma 15 which works great well below 15 deg in concert with other layering items such Montbell hooded down jacket and TEC down pants. Those things REALLY extend the temp rating - very comfortable near zero.

Bob

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: A very flat place (Grrrrrrrr)
Re: Recently got one on 04/11/2014 20:22:07 MDT Print View

Hi Bob,

Like you I really appreciate keeping the down in place. The lack of drawcord is probably not a big issue for me, as I plan to use it either under a 50f or 30f Enlightened Equipment Prodigy, to give a 20f or 0f rating respectively.

For stupid cold temps I have a WM Alpinelite and Puma so this is more of an experiment.

Bob Moulder
(bobmny10562) - F - M

Locale: Westchester County
We shall see! on 04/12/2014 18:17:59 MDT Print View

Looking forward to comparing notes in a couple of weeks, Stephen.

I will also be using for the first time a Zpacks Hexamid Duplex and Arc Blast 52L.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: A very flat place (Grrrrrrrr)
Re: We shall see! on 04/12/2014 18:38:17 MDT Print View

Hi Bob,

Mine is due in on tuesday, if it passes muster I will try it out on a trip next week.

:-)

Bob Moulder
(bobmny10562) - F - M

Locale: Westchester County
We shall see! on 04/12/2014 19:40:56 MDT Print View

Stephen, looks as if you will get a test drive sooner than I will.

The "problem" here in southern NY is that it is warming up rather quickly after the prolonged winter, so the need for a 30deg bag is rapidly diminishing. I have a MH Phantom 45 which will suffice very soon.

Just wondering, where is "a very flat place"?

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: A very flat place (Grrrrrrrr)
Re: We shall see! on 04/12/2014 19:52:00 MDT Print View

Bob,

A "very flat place" is central Michigan.

Its still fairly cold here at night, temps of the lows 20's this week.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: A very flat place (Grrrrrrrr)
Siren on 04/14/2014 16:03:55 MDT Print View

Hi Bob,

The a Siren arrived. It does look nice but I am going to send it back as its not long enough for me.

Bob Moulder
(bobmny10562) - F - M

Locale: Westchester County
Re: Siren on 04/15/2014 19:01:24 MDT Print View

Stephen, I also though it might be too short at first, but going back and reading Raymond's evaluation I noted that he is 6'3" (-ish?) 225lb and found it adequate as an experienced quilt user, so I will give it a try on a quick overnighter 4/18-19.

Although I have zero experience with quilts, I'm thinking I might experiment by replacing the static draw cord with a light shock cord. If I recall correctly, Raymond removed it altogether.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: A very flat place (Grrrrrrrr)
Re: Re: Siren on 04/15/2014 19:11:49 MDT Print View

Hi Bob,

Hope it works out for you :-)