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Rick Adams
(rickadams100) - M
cold weather guidance on 11/06/2012 14:56:02 MST Print View

I have a wm megalite that is cold below 40F and a jardine 20F quilt thats good to about 40F in a bivy, 50F without. I wish to sleep resonably well at 15*. Has anyone here tried supplementing their summerish bag by putting a light quilt inside? What were the results. I'm tall and skinny side sleeper so there is some room inside the 6'6" bag,
i'd mostly be concerned with tightness in the footbox and effectiveness overall. Is it time to spring for a winter bag with draft collars and all that?

Thanks

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: cold weather guidance on 11/06/2012 15:07:30 MST Print View

If you put your quilt inside sleeping bag it seems like there wouldn't be enough room so quilt would be compressed and not provide as much warmth.

Maybe quilt on top would be better

Mary D
(hikinggranny) - MLife

Locale: Gateway to Columbia River Gorge
cold weather guidance on 11/06/2012 15:26:42 MST Print View

I keep reading that the best way to combine the two is to drape the quilt over the sleeping bag. This is especially true if it's a synthetic quilt. Your body moisture will end up in the quilt, and if it's synthetic it won't lose its loft as much as down will. I didn't bookmark anything and the only source I remember is on the Mountain Laurel Designs website (description of their synthetic quilts). I have seen this several other places, though. Also, as Jerry said, with the quilt on top you won't be compressing the insulation of either.

Depending on how cold it gets and whether you're a warm or cold sleeper, you will probably have to supplement the sleeping bag and quilt with warm clothing and/or perhaps a vapor barrier. Remember, too, that you'll definitely need a warmer sleeping pad or pad combination, with R value of at least 5.

You might want to try this out close to home or your car first, so you can bail out instead of shivering all night if it doesn't work.

Edited by hikinggranny on 11/06/2012 15:28:14 MST.

Jim Colten
(jcolten)

Locale: MN
Re: cold weather guidance on 11/06/2012 16:07:44 MST Print View

I keep reading that the best way to combine the two is to drape the quilt over the sleeping bag. This is especially true if it's a synthetic quilt. Your body moisture will end up in the quilt

Maybe, maybe not. Where the moisture condenses is determined by several factors including the outside temperature, the relative insulation value of the bag and the quilt and the dewpoint of the air between you and the inner layer.

For short term use (a night or two) I'm not sure it matters where it condenses. I'm pretty sure that most folks experienced with long term winter sleeping will say to use a vapor barrier to keep moisture out of the insulation.

Buck Nelson
(Colter) - MLife

Locale: Alaska
It depends on 11/06/2012 17:41:19 MST Print View

I've doubled up sleeping bags and/or a sleeping bag-quilt combination by putting one inside the other with good results. As mentioned it takes a roomy enough outer bag to pull off. If there's room, I think that's warmer than draping. If there isn't room, draping a quilt over the top should still make a big difference, one you'll have to test to evaluate.

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: It depends on 11/06/2012 17:43:40 MST Print View

I have done the same thing the past couple of year. Placing a smaller cuben quilt inside a larger quilt. Works quite well and the cuben quilt acts as a VBL.