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Cosmic Osmo
(cosmicosmo) - F
Thoughts on this down source? on 10/12/2012 07:32:19 MDT Print View

Yes, it's "siberian" down, but it says 750 fill power, it says 100% goose down, and it says 30 oz fill weight. That's $2.83 per ounce and $6.53 per cubic foot if it lives up to its claims. I posted a question to the seller about which variety has the 30 oz of fill power because you can choose between soft/medium/firm and queen/king and got this response: "The pillows that we currently have are all medium firm which is the specification listed on the listing."

I figure at worst case scenario, if it turns out to be lying about its specs, I should be able to get my money back, right?

Edited by cosmicosmo on 10/12/2012 07:32:56 MDT.

Colin Krusor
(ckrusor) - M

Locale: Northwest US
down on 10/12/2012 11:32:08 MDT Print View

How will you know?

Jordo _99
(jordo_99) - MLife

Locale: Nebraska
Not bad...I went with this on 10/12/2012 12:14:50 MDT Print View

I got this a month ago:

It says it's 85% down and 15% feather on the tag even though the ad misleads that information a bit. The tag does say 800FP though.

I've been waiting for my sewing machine to get back from repair (4th week frustrated right now) but after I get it back I'll be finishing up a project and then making a that point I'll tear open the pillow and stuff the quilt...if I need more down I'll just order another pillow.

Not saying to go either way but it's something to consider...I was a bit annoyed with the 15% feather on the tag after specifically asking about this a week before ordering and it going unanswered, but I've tried and I can't feel a single feather.

Regardless, it's only 18oz but they sell a pair for 36oz total at a slight discount that would be very similar to what you're looking at...might be worth a look.

Cosmic Osmo
(cosmicosmo) - F
Re: down on 10/12/2012 13:21:14 MDT Print View

>"How will you know?"

Good question. Down percentage can be evaluated visually, fill weight is easy enough to measure. Measuring fill power is a little harder, though, but it can be done with a big cardboard box and some math.

I can just imagine the phone call now, "Hi, I'd like to return the pillow I bought, I opened it up and pulled some of the down out and it turns out it's only 500 FP when you advertised 750."

Eric Lundquist
(cobberman) - F - M

Locale: Northern Colorado
Re: Re: down on 10/12/2012 13:29:57 MDT Print View

"Measuring fill power is a little harder, though, but it can be done with a big cardboard box and some math."

Let us know the outcome, although I doubt you'll recover your funds if you are unsatisfied with the fill power. You'd probably need a lab to test the down and provide some sort of certification countering the sellers claim. I imagine the testing would cost as much or more than the pillow itself.

Wikipedia says measuring fill power "involves measurements taken of a one ounce sample of down in a plexiglas[sic] cylinder with a weighted piston compressing the down. The test requires controlled temperature, humidity, and preparation of the sample."

Diplomatic Mike

Locale: Under a bush in Scotland
Poor quality on 10/12/2012 13:44:21 MDT Print View

'Down' doesn't have any feathers in it.

Colin Krusor
(ckrusor) - M

Locale: Northwest US
Fill Power on 10/12/2012 16:00:36 MDT Print View

Yes, I looked into fill power measurement a while ago, and found that it isn't as simple as piling some down of a known mass into a container and measuring the volume. As Eric noted, fill power is measured with a weight on top of the down. I doubt that you could use the cardboard box method to determine the fill power to within 200 unless you had another sample of down of known fill power to compare it to.