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Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: Re: Recycled Water Bottles on 10/09/2012 15:59:59 MDT Print View

> "The type of plastic bottle in which water is usually sold is usually a #1, and is
> only recommended for one time use. Do not refill it".

This is total and utter BS!

This #1 plastic is PET, and that is what many of us have been using for years at a time. Most rocket-based fizzy-drink bottles are made of PET. It is extremely robust.
Btw, I think many baby formula bottles are made of PET too.

So why do industry sources say this? Two main reasons.
1) Reuse means you don't buy a new bottle from the vendor every time. Agh! The lost profit! Pain and Suffering!
2) The lawyers want to make sure you never sue their client (the mfr).
THAT IS ALL!

Cheers

Paul McLaughlin
(paul) - MLife
Re: Re: Re: Recycled Water Bottles on 10/09/2012 16:24:10 MDT Print View

What I have heard is that Rogers' reason #2 is the main one. The small necks on most soda bottles make it difficult to clean the interior thoroughly, and so they cover their behinds with the recommendation that you should not re-use.

By the way, The OP notes that Gatorade bottles handle the trip through the dishwasher just fine. Well, I have been using a different Gatorade bottle - comes with a nice squeezy top, it's not the regular Gatorade but something like G series or O2 or something like that - and they do not do well in the dishwasher, at least not mine. They deform and shrink. But they are my favorite bottle - wide enough mouth for shoving in snow, squeezy top for convenience.

John Donewar
(Newton) - MLife

Locale: Southeastern Louisiana
Re: Gatorade bottles on 10/09/2012 16:59:00 MDT Print View

Paul,

Which one are we talking about?

Bottle #1?

Gatorade #1

or

Bottle #2?Gatorade #2

Party On,

Newton

Samuel C. Farrington
(scfhome) - M

Locale: Chocorua NH, USA
recycled water bottles on 10/09/2012 18:10:43 MDT Print View

Like that G 02. Wide enough top for a cleaning brush is a must for me. Maybe most of you use just water, but tea and other drinks that can get moldy residues often go into my bottles. That is why I use the wide mouth bottles, and not the bladders.

The cap looks quite sturdy also, with a straw hole that will take a nylon bolt for a cap retainer. Wonder what the capacity is, the recycle #, and the weight, of course. With a little lurking around the drink coolers, will find out.
These could replace my #3 peanute bottles - no word here on #3's yet, though.

Rick M
(rmjapan) - F

Locale: London, UK
DASANI on 10/09/2012 18:13:14 MDT Print View

I did a little more research into this 12g 500ml bottle now in Japan and it seems it might also be the same bottle under DASANI brand in the USA.

http://www.dasani.com/#/home

Edited by rmjapan on 10/09/2012 18:14:51 MDT.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Gatorade bottles on 10/09/2012 19:09:15 MDT Print View

I have not seen the #2 style of bottles here.

Paul McLaughlin
(paul) - MLife
Re: Re: Gatorade bottles on 10/09/2012 21:23:58 MDT Print View

Bottle #1

Scott Bentz
(scottbentz) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Let's Talk Recycled Water Bottles on 10/09/2012 22:19:33 MDT Print View

This has been my go-to bottle for a few years. These are plastic bottles with a wide mouth. I cannot get them in California anymore so when my son was in school in Idaho he would pick them up for all of us. I have quite a few of them. I like the wide mouth because they are easy to fill and they are not as wide as a Gatorade so they fit easier in my side pocket. I usually take one of these bottles and then a 1 liter Platy that I use when needed. Since these are 1 liter they are nice for using with chlorine dioxide drops. I also used it with my Steripen Adventurer since that model is round not oval
Here is a view of two wide mouth bottlesWide Mouth Soda Bottle
and a side by side with a standard and wide mouthWide and Small

Edited by scottbentz on 10/10/2012 07:37:15 MDT.

John Donewar
(Newton) - MLife

Locale: Southeastern Louisiana
Re: Let's Talk Recycled Water Bottles on 10/10/2012 04:31:05 MDT Print View

Scott,

I we're not being too forward here what are your measurements, of the wide mouth openings of your go to bottles? ;-)

Gatorade opening is 1 1/4" and Powerade opening is 1 1/8" inside diameter.

Can you give us the weights of your go to bottles?

What is your method of carry? Based on the shape of these samples in the pictures I'm guessing that your pack has water bottle pockets on the sides of your pack. I looked at your gear list from 2009 and I think that I may have answered my own question on this one.

Party On,

Newton

Scott Bentz
(scottbentz) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Let's Talk Recycled Water Bottles on 10/10/2012 07:40:19 MDT Print View

I am at the office so I cannot measure right now. I may be able to do so later.

I am pretty sure they bottle weighs in at .5 oz. I use a Mariposa Plus, Gorilla 2012 or an older Murmur pack. All of those packs have pockets on the side which I can access while hiking. I do not have to stop. That is why I like these. They are not real wide and fit nicely into those pockets.

John Donewar
(Newton) - MLife

Locale: Southeastern Louisiana
Re: Let's Talk Recycled Water Bottles on 10/16/2012 04:26:07 MDT Print View

Scott,

Thanks for the PM with the measurements. ;-)

"... the inside of the wide mouth measures 1 3/16".

Here's another one that I've found.

Promised Land bottle

The bottle in the above picture is a 1 quart bottle. I spotted it in the dairy case at Walmart. The opening is @ 1 1/2" to 1 5/8" wide ID. I'm sorry that I have no weight or exact measurements. The bottle doesn't suit my style of carry and we really don't need the extra sugar in the house.

The bottle does appear to be about the thickness of a soda bottle and it has a rather slim profile. It may suit someone elses needs just fine.

BTW it is a number "1" type of plastic.

This company does use this bottle for other products of theirs that are not as "sweet". Just Google Promised Land milk, egg nog etc.

Party On,

Newton

drowning in spam
(leaftye) - F

Locale: SoCal
Re: Let's Talk Recycled Water Bottles on 10/20/2012 06:13:15 MDT Print View

When I need greater water capacity, I prefer carrying a pair of 1.8 liter Gatorade bottles. Along with a bladder for my Sawyer Squeeze, that gives me all the capacity I need.

When I need a little less water, I like carrying a pair of 1.5 liter Lipton Green Tea bottles. The advantage with these is that the threads are compatible with my Sawyer Squeeze, so it gives me a back up that I've taken advantage of on one hike.

The only time I haven't needed that much capacity was in the Sierras, but I just left my bigger bottles partially filled instead of ditching a bottle or switching to smaller bottles.

I do use a 32 oz Gatorade or Powerade bottle for a potty bottle, and I try to make sure that it's significantly different than what I'm using for water bottles.

Don Amundson
(amrowinc) - M

Locale: Southern California
Let's Talk Recycled Water Bottles on 10/20/2012 12:36:18 MDT Print View

I don't mean to jump on the question to Scott but I have my scale and the bottle he is referring to in front of me. They have been my favorite bottles for the last year. The bottle holds 24oz is a #1, weighs 1.2oz with the original cap and the mouth opening measures 1 3/16" It's slim shape works well in my packs side pockets. I don't like the original caps so I replace mine with a standard screw on. Interestingly they are lighter than the smaller G2 bottles and the cap from other gatorade bottles won't fit it--why they used a lighter material and a different cap thread makes no sense but it is what it is. The problem in my area is finding these bottles. My last source was the local 99 cent store.

Jake D
(JakeDatc) - F

Locale: Bristol,RI
Re: Let's Talk Recycled Water Bottles on 10/20/2012 13:00:24 MDT Print View

I really liked the Gatorade #1 bottle with the twist cap. they seem to be harder to find around here.. the caps are not super sturdy if you drop the bottle top down. The twist top is nice for drinking without stopping. i wish they were 1L not 24oz though.

Edited by JakeDatc on 10/20/2012 13:01:26 MDT.

Cesar Valdez
(PrimeZombie) - F

Locale: Scandinavia
quest for perfect recycled bottle continues on 10/20/2012 15:50:51 MDT Print View

Last weekend I went on a section hike and got to try out a bottle that is now my new favorite. I have gone through four different favorite recycled bottle in the past year, but I think this one will be hard to beat.

And of course for the record, I don't work for these guys or get free juice from them or anything, but here is their website in English (which I guess means you can buy it outside of Sweden): http://www.bramhults.com/

I got a 1 liter juice bottle (strawberry and lime) and when I checked the bottom, it's the hard to find and supposedly least "bad" kind of plastic #2.

Weight is 48g, but very tough and rigid and fit very well in my Zpacks pack side pocket. I also like that it has kind of a grippy top with the ridges on the upper third of the bottle. For spring/fall, one of these plus my Sawyer filter bag is all I need. In the summer I would take one of these plus a 1 liter Platypus, though I would only drink out of the Brämhults bottle and use the Platy as storage/pillow.

Raymond Estrella
(rayestrella) - MLife

Locale: Northern Minnesota
Recycled Water Bottles on 10/20/2012 16:20:46 MDT Print View

I hear you Scott,

I love the wide mouth Pepsi product bottles (I use their Aquafina as seen in the review below.) They are getting harder to find though.

http://tinyurl.com/92g6q5l

drowning in spam
(leaftye) - F

Locale: SoCal
Re: Recycled Water Bottles on 10/21/2012 16:37:21 MDT Print View

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