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John Coyle
(Bigsac)

Locale: NorCal
BackCountry Boiler on 09/18/2012 11:39:49 MDT Print View

I ordered one of these about 3 weeks ago, but delivery time was stated as 5-7 weeks, so I still have a few weeks to go. Just wondered if any of you have received the 2nd generation boilers yet, and if the quality control issues have been resolved. I do mostly freezer bag cooking, so I think this system will work for me. I also ordered the firefelt alcohol burner for those places where open fires aren't allowed.

John Doe
(jessearl) - F
Boiler on 09/18/2012 14:43:02 MDT Print View

I ordered my Backcountry Boiler on Aug. 20.

Nothing has arrived yet and haven't received any shipping information.

I'm not sure if it'll just show up or if I'll get shipping notification.

Hopefully soon.

Rakesh Malik
(Tamerlin)

Locale: Cascadia
Re: Boiler on 09/18/2012 16:50:46 MDT Print View

I expect that you'll receive a shipping notice when your order ships. I got one for mine, though it was part of the Kickstarter. I also got a notification from him when he shipped the FlyGrill that I ordered several months ago, and which arrived sometime in the last day or two. My mailbox was pretty full today ;)

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Melbourne
BackCountry Boiler on 09/18/2012 17:27:31 MDT Print View

Recently Devin asked for a volunteer to help him preapare the new batch of BBs.
I was going to fly over to give him a hand but remembered that I had to cut my toenails , still I thought about it.
BBs

Edited by Franco on 09/18/2012 17:28:41 MDT.

John Abela
(JohnAbela) - MLife

Locale: www.hikelighter.com
Re: BackCountry Boiler on 09/19/2012 01:43:11 MDT Print View

I paid for mine on June 10, 2011 and I still have not yet received it.

Devin Montgomery
(dsmontgomery) - MLife

Locale: one snowball away from big trouble
Re: Backcountry Boiler on 09/19/2012 09:35:29 MDT Print View

Hi all - here are some updates on the new Boilers (I make them for those who might not know):

@ Johns Coyle and Doe: Both the anodized and non-anodized Boilers are on schedule to ship in the times quoted on the site. For the non-anodized Boilers, that's next week! You will get a shipping notice when they go. The only QC problems I've ever had were with a single fabricator I no longer use. You'll really like these. Really, they're awesome!

@ Rakesh: So, what do you think of the FlyGrill?

@ Franco: You're welcome any time! I actually have the first work-trader coming in tomorrow. I'm really looking it!

@ John Abela: I don't know what else to say. I'm still aware you don't have your Boiler, still apologetic about that fact, still sending out updates on progress (another is going out today), and still doing everything in my power to get them out as soon as possible. The refund offer is also still available, as it has always been.

Rakesh Malik
(Tamerlin)

Locale: Cascadia
Re: Re: Backcountry Boiler on 09/21/2012 01:25:58 MDT Print View

"@ Rakesh: So, what do you think of the FlyGrill?"

I haven't had a chance to try doing anything with it yet, but it's lighter than I'd expected, looks well made, and is a little narrower than I expected, also. It's basically fish-shaped. I like that it's very light, yet includes both a grill and a cutting board for the weight.

Devin Montgomery
(dsmontgomery) - MLife

Locale: one snowball away from big trouble
Re: Re: Re: Backcountry Boiler on 09/21/2012 13:19:58 MDT Print View

Thanks for the feedback, Rakesh! It is basically fish-shaped. :)

I look forward to hearing what you think of it in use!

Rakesh Malik
(Tamerlin)

Locale: Cascadia
Re: Re: Re: Re: Backcountry Boiler on 09/21/2012 20:24:57 MDT Print View

I hope I have a chance to use it soon... with any luck I'll be able to get out in the back country sometime in October!

At least I had a few great trips this summer...

Lawson Kline
(Mountainfitter) - M

Locale: LawsonEquipment.com
Wow... June 10, 2011 on 09/21/2012 22:24:00 MDT Print View

June 10, 2011 and still no boiler.. My math could be a little off but I think today is the 468 day mark. Was Big Sky manufacturing these????

Edited by Mountainfitter on 09/21/2012 23:05:37 MDT.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Wow... June 10, 2011 on 09/21/2012 22:25:40 MDT Print View

Lawson, you really going to go there. Why?

Chris Lacey
(Staplebox) - F
missing something on 09/22/2012 07:12:29 MDT Print View

I feel like I am missing something, so I am glad someone 'went there'. I am fairly new here, which may be why I am not following how 1+ year old orders can go unfilled while the newer model of the product is shipping out next week.

I am somewhat interested in the stove but these things I read about kickstarter, QC and wonky order fulfillment give me pause. The "work for a stove" proposal is strange too.

Is it possible to just normally buy one of these? Can I just send money and expect a stove in the mail in a week?

Devin Montgomery
(dsmontgomery) - MLife

Locale: one snowball away from big trouble
Re: missing something on 09/22/2012 22:36:41 MDT Print View

@ Chris - The short version is that the Boilers are made in batches, and the last fabricator didn't produce as many satisfactory Boilers as were contracted for. So John A. and others elected to wait for the next batch rather than take a refund.

I've now hooked up with some really excellent shops and those who were waiting for the standard Backcountry Boiler will have it shipped to them next week. If you ordered a standard Backcountry Boiler today, it would ship out next week or the following. The anodized Boilers take a bit longer to manufacturer, so they'll be going out to those who have already ordered in a few weeks. That batch of anodized Boilers has now sold out and the next is beginning, so if you ordered an anodized Boiler today, it would take about 7-9 weeks.

I have to say, I'm not sure what's strange about a work trade program. I've had a handful of folks interested in it, and the first came in last week. He's looking forward to the stove, and I can sure use the help. He assembled about half of the FireFelts that will be going out next week and did quite a nice job.

If you'd like the know more about the whole Boiler story, you can find a lot in these forums (where I developed it) or on my blog at www.theboilewerks.com.

Edit: you know it's late when you misspell your own url. It's www.theboilerwerks.com. :)

Edited by dsmontgomery on 09/22/2012 22:48:28 MDT.

. Callahan
(AeroNautiCal) - M

Locale: Stoke Newington, London, UK.
Chris, on 09/23/2012 09:06:49 MDT Print View

The work/trade offer is excellent, a really good method of mutual exchange, what's not to like?

Devin has done something exceptional in creating the Backcountry Boiler and bringing it to market... He then did something even more exceptional, he improved it!

After which, rather than get complacent, he got even more creative by bringing out the FlyGrill and devising SparkMade.

Some things in life are worth waiting for, the Backcountry Boiler is one of those things, and Devin is a 100% Stand Up Guy!

John Doe
(jessearl) - F
Backcountry Boiler on 09/28/2012 10:28:51 MDT Print View

I got an email yesterday from Devin that my Boiler has shipped.

I'm hoping that the folks that ordered one a year ago got the same thing.

Either way I'm excited to get my boiler and can't wait to go and try it out.

Thanks Devin!

Rakesh Malik
(Tamerlin)

Locale: Cascadia
Re: Backcountry Boiler on 09/28/2012 21:47:23 MDT Print View

I have a feeling that you're going ot like it. My only concern is that the firebase has a relatively small diameter, so you do have to be careful regarding stability, but it looks as if bracing it with rocks and such works nicely. I haven't had a chance to try it in the field because I ended up in no-fire zones on my last two trips, but I'm hoping to get a chance soon... though with both school and work, I'm not likely to get much backpacking in this fall, unfortunately :(

I do plan, however, to make up for lost time when my current session in school ends in July...

John Abela
(JohnAbela) - MLife

Locale: www.hikelighter.com
Re: Re: Backcountry Boiler on 09/29/2012 05:16:09 MDT Print View

My only concern is that the firebase has a relatively small diameter, so you do have to be careful regarding stability


I gotta say that this has been an issue that has bugged me from the day I first came across these type of systems.

What exactly is the design theory in having the base shrink in, rather than expand out???

Is it an engineering requirement? Is it just because it is the way it has always been done?

Mole J
(MoleJ) - F

Locale: UK
Base fits inside the Kettle on 09/29/2012 06:34:01 MDT Print View

>>What exactly is the design theory in having the base shrink in, rather than expand out???


On pre-existing Chimney Kettle designs, the firebowl is inverted and stored inside the kettle for transport. So I suppose the BCB is the same?

Michael Lyons
(michaellyons@pcisys.net)

Locale: Rocky Mountains
RE: Base fits inside the Kettle on 10/01/2012 00:12:32 MDT Print View

@ John Abela
@ J Mole

>>What exactly is the design theory in having the base shrink in, rather than expand out???

>>On pre-existing Chimney Kettle designs, the firebowl is inverted and stored inside the kettle for >>transport. So I suppose the BCB is the same?

Yes, the BCB is the same as the Kelly, Ghillie, Eydon, and most other chimney kettles in that the firepan inverts and stores inside the base of the kettle.

The New Zealand Thermette firepan stores around the outside of the base. The Eco-billy (and a couple I can't remember the names of off the top of my head) have the fire 'skirt' built-in, but the fire is built on the ground.

In all fairness to the tapered firebase, I've never tipped one over in many years of use. And I've got...let's see...12 chimney kettles (including the BCB) that I can think of. There's probably more. (Yes, I've got a problem) :)

Edited by michaellyons@pcisys.net on 10/01/2012 00:25:18 MDT.

. Callahan
(AeroNautiCal) - M

Locale: Stoke Newington, London, UK.
Me too! on 10/01/2012 05:31:06 MDT Print View

Phew!

I thought it was just me... I have five in total, and I can see that rising! (o: