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Michael Cheifetz
(mike_hefetz) - MLife

Locale: Israel
Pee bottle?? best practices on 09/09/2012 13:43:27 MDT Print View

So I have been using a Nalgene wide mouth 32Oz or a Widemouth 32Oz nalgene soft canteen as a pee bottle.
The issue is balancing:
1)obviously weight - even if i use it for normal drinking (dont tell anyone) still a hardbottle is quite heavy
2)volume - so i dont need to get up and empty it...cause whats the point in that. 32Oz seem like a winner for me
3)how easy it is to do the dirty deed inside my mummy bag - a smaller bottle is better here. a soft bottle makes it trikier
4)....well a wide enough mouth.
5)leek/shatter/puncture resistant enough

Any better options/tricks out there?

Mike

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Pee bottle?? best practices on 09/09/2012 13:54:39 MDT Print View

"Any better options/tricks out there?"

The cook pot.

--B.G.--

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Pee bottle?? best practices on 09/09/2012 13:58:54 MDT Print View

I prefer a lidded, spill proof, rigid container. Just don't miss. I don't really do the deed whilst in my bag.

German Tourist
(GermanTourist) - F

Locale: in my tent
Pee bottle on 09/09/2012 13:59:16 MDT Print View

Same here: cook pot!

drowning in spam
(leaftye) - F

Locale: SoCal
Re: Pee bottle?? best practices on 09/09/2012 14:16:58 MDT Print View

Gatorade bottle.

Michael Cheifetz
(mike_hefetz) - MLife

Locale: Israel
Think - bivy on 09/09/2012 14:17:43 MDT Print View

well - obviously in a tent its not that much of an issue.

But if im in a bivi or..funnily enough in a hut w people then just sliding out of the bag and peeing in a pot aint so pretty.

Nalgene works ok...but I wish they had one of those bottles with a semi sideways opening like genuine pee bottles

Tom Lyons
(towaly) - F

Locale: Smoky Mtns.
re on 09/09/2012 14:34:50 MDT Print View

If it's not raining, just get up and go outside.

If it's raining, then you can get out of your bag and pee in the bottle(or whatever) in the tent.

If there are people in a hut with you, then put on a raincoat and go outside.


I would not risk peeing in any receptacle while inside the sleeping bag, in case it somehow got the bag wet with some kind of mistake. Just not worth the risk.

Edited by towaly on 09/09/2012 14:35:51 MDT.

Michael Cheifetz
(mike_hefetz) - MLife

Locale: Israel
Hmmm... on 09/09/2012 14:48:34 MDT Print View

thats funny that most of you are so adamant to NOT pee in a bottle....

I never thought about it until:
i was hiking in China. Sleeping in a derelict hunter's cabin (i mean it was the type that was pretty much open to the wind just roof to stop snow)
temps at night were circa 0F and we were 7ppl+2 donkeys (YES) inside. It was soooo tight that I slept UNDER a sleep platform with my head having just 4 inches or so of space above (someone else was sleeping on the sleep platform)
I had to go 3 times that night and i was NOT happy at all.

Never gone back

David Thomas
(DavidinKenai) - MLife

Locale: North Woods. Far North.
Pee bottle?? Some options on 09/09/2012 14:51:37 MDT Print View

> "Don't tell anyone"

Just BP with cavers. Due to volume limits in tight passages, all caving beverage containers are birectional. You use them to haul liquids in and you use them to haul liquids out. Then triple rinse.

A lot of energy drink aluminum cans / aluminum bottles have 1-1/8" ID openings. Depending on the subject of the last dream, that can be a snug fit or a no-go. Rockstar comes in 24 ounce cans (although that a very thin aluminum - hardly more than soda can size).

Venom and many others are 16.9 ounce and ThinQ is 12 ounces and those are quite substanial. Okay, maybe not as UL as possible, but I wouldn't fret about their strength when multi-tasking as pee bottles, water bottles and cook pots.

From my own research, an adult male bladder holds, at most, 16 ounces. YMMV.

All those aluminum bottles I listed come with a screw top. While they offer big savings if triple-purposed, I'd bring an extra screwtop. It would just be too easy to drop off a mountain, etc.

I regret not setting aside more Avian bottles before they went to narrow-mouth lids. That's one reason I snag these earlier-version, wide-mouth, thicker-walled aluminum bottles from the recycling center. I can imagine them being "optimized" over time and then we'll be fighting over the old ones like we already do with Heinekien cans.

I'll do the deed in the sleeping bag, but when kneeling or on all fours. Better to go with gravity than perpendicular to it.

Michael Cheifetz
(mike_hefetz) - MLife

Locale: Israel
A-ha on 09/09/2012 16:01:13 MDT Print View

@david - the engineer comes to the rescue!

My main qualm was never the weight - but rather the TILT (if you know what i mean...)

just tried it at home now (its like 80F so i boiled) and indeed turning all the way helps...:)

Daryl and Daryl
(lyrad1) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest, USA, Earth
Re: Pee bottle?? best practices on 09/09/2012 17:09:19 MDT Print View

My wife uses a square, boxed bottom zip lock bag and dumps it after each use.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: Re: Pee bottle?? best practices on 09/09/2012 17:40:03 MDT Print View

I really thought folk on here would be using a Cuben pee bag ;-)

Nick G
(HermesUL) - F
Re: Re: Re: Pee bottle?? best practices on 09/09/2012 18:05:44 MDT Print View

"I really thought folk on here would be using a Cuben pee bag ;-)"

I carry a MYOG titanium flush toilet with me backpacking. Just feed the .1 oz/sq yard cuben fiber tubing into a six inch deep hole outside your tenting area, do your business in the night, and hang it from the top of your tarp. The gravity flush usually only takes a few minutes, and rarely clogs! Plus, it doubles as a potty trowel so you can easily dig the hole and fill it in the morning.

I double-use the titanium toilet section as a cereal bowl in the morning, boil water in it at night, and use it as a mirror for doing my makeup before going into town. Urine is sterile, so I backflush it to filter my drinking water, too.

This thing is so fun to go in, I use it at home!

Best part is, it weighs only 14 grams! I'd post pictures and designs, but I plan on making my fortune selling these things so I'm going to keep it secret until then. Keep your eye on the newspapers, this thing is going to go big!

Peeing in a bottle? Ew. If I had to, I'd use my gatorade bottle and then throw it out after the trip.

Charles P
(mediauras)

Locale: Terra
there's always this option on 09/09/2012 18:42:23 MDT Print View

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DBuk91phkI

Mark Ries
(mtmnmark) - M

Locale: IOWAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
Re: Pee bottle?? on 09/09/2012 18:50:06 MDT Print View

I had a custom zipper with draft tubes put in my sleeping bags that I can pee out when its cold which works well under a tarp. I also had judy custom install a zipper in my lightheart solo at the designated height so I can just roll over and reach out the pecker hole in the sleeping bag unzip the urinal zipper in the tent(as I call it) then pee through the holes without getting out of my bag. This works great except in areas of mosquitos or camping next to the heavy set female gym teacher from the movie "Porkys" I believe her name is Buella Ballbreaker. I will try to take some pictures of the system in use and post them after my next non solo trip so I have someone to take the pics from outside the tent.

Edited by mtmnmark on 09/09/2012 19:02:47 MDT.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: Re: Re: Re: Pee bottle?? best practices on 09/09/2012 19:21:55 MDT Print View

Must get me one of them ;-)

Katy Anderson
(KatyAnderson) - F
Advice on 09/09/2012 19:47:31 MDT Print View

You want advice on the best pee bottle to use when you are sharing the hut with a bunch of other people? Sharing a shelter also means sharing sights, sounds and smells. Do your mates a favor and GO OUTSIDE.

Michael Cheifetz
(mike_hefetz) - MLife

Locale: Israel
WE had fun didnt we on 09/10/2012 01:06:43 MDT Print View

glad to see that cuben fiber came into this somehow

@katy - try it yourself...i'm sure no one will notice :)

Rod Lawlor
(Rod_Lawlor) - MLife

Locale: Australia
Chuckles on 09/10/2012 07:11:59 MDT Print View

Thanks guys, I think I need this tonight. And it's a question I've been pondering a bit lately myself.

Two more questions. What do you do with the newly filled bottle if it's below freezing?

And has anyone (male) tried using a ziplock unzipped just enough?

Cheers, Rod

Michael Cheifetz
(mike_hefetz) - MLife

Locale: Israel
leave in the bag on 09/10/2012 11:47:17 MDT Print View

@rod - I tend to leave it in my bag (that is why i only trust a nalgene so far)

ziploc - sounds scary to me

YMMV

Chris Irwin
(Chris.89) - F
Outside on 09/10/2012 12:05:04 MDT Print View

Pfft, pee bottle? I just get up and go outside. Makes you feel alive when it's coming down hard with rain/snow and you're out in your boxers having a slash ...

Art ...
(asandh) - F
Re: Pee bottle?? best practices on 09/10/2012 13:58:31 MDT Print View

if you're too lazy to get up and go outside to pee, how did you ever manage to get out in the wilderness in the first place ???

a great opportunity to look at the stars or feel the rain/wind/snow in your face.

jeff berkman
(jberkman) - MLife
pee on 09/10/2012 14:02:29 MDT Print View

...and catch a cold. I think I'll try peeing in a pot in the comfort of my sleeping bag the next time I'm out in the freezing cold. Great idea!

Art ...
(asandh) - F
Re: pee on 09/10/2012 14:17:34 MDT Print View

"...and catch a cold. I think I'll try peeing in a pot in the comfort of my sleeping bag the next time I'm out in the freezing cold. Great idea!"

so I can assume you arrived at your location in a climate controlled bubble. and waited impatiently inside while your entourage set up your tent ?

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Pee bottle?? best practices on 09/10/2012 14:28:55 MDT Print View

After putting and the effort and cash into lightening my load, I'll risk the cold and just get out of bed. I'm lucky in that I almost never have to go in the middle of the night, regardless of where I am.

There is that feeling of wanting eyes in the back of your head while answering nature's call when solo. It can seem a little vulnerable standing there under the stars in the dark and your attention focused on not getting wet feet rather than listening for the cougar creeping up behind you. Then again, getting a face full may take care of the cat :)

mik matra
(mikmik) - M

Locale: Allways on the move
just got back from a trip and I see this thread!! on 09/10/2012 14:31:47 MDT Print View

JUst got back from a (to us here in balmy sunny QLD Australia) cold weekend of camping at about 1200m. The ambient temp wasn't that bad around the zero-3 or 4 degrees celcius but the windchill made it uncomfortable enough that even with all my clothes on sitting next to the fire I said to my crew stuff this I'm going to bed. It took me a little while to get inside my sleeping bag and pull the 2 shoulder and head drawstrings tight and get comfy and then i needed to pee. What to do what to do what to do, I can't possibly last all night and so I clambered out then and again before the sun rose.

Having said that I still do not feel comfortable in peeing inside my sleeping bag trying to not spill. I am a person that feels the cold easily (most others in my party wear half the warm gear on a cold night than I do) but will no way risk a spillage inside the bag....I don't want to sleep on a 'wet-spot' lol. I however have no qualms in unzippiong the bag turning to the side and emptying my bladder in a bowl or something that can be emptied then or in the morning.

David K
(aviddk) - F

Locale: SW Oregon
practice makes perfect on 09/10/2012 14:44:55 MDT Print View

While recuperating from my hip resurfacing I couldn't get out bed readily for around a month. Having several empty urinals standing on the bedside table was very comforting. LIke all endeavors one undertakes- practice makes perfect. There are several ways one can end up with wet areas that are unpleasant. I recommend trying this out in the comfort of one's home bed before even contemplating the incredibly advanced skill of doing this in a mummy bag. I might add that cheap men's urinals are very light and shaped to make the job easier. Not that any ULer would even contemplate hauling something like that along.

Me-I love getting outside and seeing the stars and feeling the cold air. Way less shocking than rolling in the snow after a sauna at 25 below.

Edward Jursek
(nedjursek@gmail.com) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Pee bottle on 09/10/2012 14:59:43 MDT Print View

I always start out a trip with a 1L bottle of Gatorade that converts to my pee bottle when empty. Light weight, wide mouth, can't be confused with my Platy bottles. I hike a lot in the wet Pacific Northwest and use it when it is raining. In good weather I would rather take a few minutes outside and enjoy the stars.

Dave Heiss
(DaveHeiss) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
The humble mayonnaise jar on 09/10/2012 15:06:29 MDT Print View

Last trip I brought an empty mayonnaise jar to use as a pee bottle. Wide mouth top (good target) and wide bottom (hard to tip over), smooth sides for easy cleaning (I used it as an extra water carrier at camp), the lid seals tight, and the jar was both light and basically free. It was pretty easy to prop up on one elbow, lean into the jar and do the midnight pee without making any messes. At 30-32oz depending on the brand, it's big enough to hold two bladder's worth, if necessary. I used it during a cold, windy night up on Copper Ridge in the North Cascades NP, and I must say it was quite convenient.

Jon Holthaus
(t25hatch) - M
+1 ziplock on 09/10/2012 15:15:01 MDT Print View

I use freezer bag 1 Gal ziplock. All jokes aside "size" isn't an issue seal as far as needed dump after use. I use duomid and bivy. Never had an issue with 30+ uses. I mark with black X to easily recognize, always water rinse during day fill up (dumping 200+ ft away from source, in my mind that's "really leering it clean and soak up") keep on exterior pocket. Simple and efficient.

David Olsen
(oware)

Locale: Steptoe Butte
Hydrating on 09/10/2012 15:20:56 MDT Print View

In winter, after plenty of hot drinks to rehydrate and stave off frostbite and when the
cold seeps into your bag and bladder pressure overwhelms bag suction, a 16 oz wide mouth
nalgene is ALMOST enough. It is funny only later.

Better to go with 20 oz or larger.

Being very nearsighted, I used to bring a square nalgene to differentiate it from my
drinking ones.

Wide mouth Mtn Dew bottle works.

Edited by oware on 09/10/2012 15:27:49 MDT.

David Thomas
(DavidinKenai) - MLife

Locale: North Woods. Far North.
Re: The humble mayonnaise jar on 09/10/2012 15:21:49 MDT Print View

I sure hope that mayonnaise jar was plastic, not glass! Nutella and peanut butter also come in wide-mouth plastic bottles and hence double as better mixing bowls because they are easier to clean.

Are there steel cans (for nuts, maybe?) with a resealable plastic lid? Better yet, something in aluminum (big catfood can, pate'?). Then in additional to a bowl and pee bottle, it could function as a cheap cooking pot (without the plastic lid). I'm sure you could eventually find a snap-on plastic lid for a particular steel can if you look widely enough. And/or for an aluminum/Ti BP cooking pot so you could set it aside with less risk of a pee spill.

Tim Zen
(asdzxc57) - F

Locale: MI
Nalgene canteen failure on 03/09/2013 07:50:26 MST Print View

Not going with the Nalgene canteen. I filled it with hot (not boiling) water and it sprung a leak.nagene canteen leak. Not even a year old.

Peter Evans
(NLslacker)
Condom on 03/09/2013 08:45:22 MST Print View

One trick I've heard but not used for winter camping is to pee in a condom.
Tie a knot in it and let it freeze... deal with it in the morning.

Personally I'd rather just go outside rather than risk fouling my nice down sleeping bag.

Rusty Beaver
(rustyb) - F

Locale: Rocky Mountains
Gett'n it done on 03/09/2013 09:11:38 MST Print View

As a frequent male urinator, I've come to like the following 2 methods: The most recent is using my ~27oz Klean Kanteen w/ stainless lid. I roll on to my side to pee...but rather than dump it, I keep it in my bag with me as a heater. Stainless is very conductive and it feels great. When the need arises again, I dump outside my tent and do'er again. In the morn, I rinse the Kanteen well and prepare my tea in it. The Kanteen is then my water bottle throughout the day. Bottle/urinal/tea pot/bag warmer in one!

The other method is a wide mouth plastic bottle...~16oz. During the day, I use it to contain my Ti stakes. I've come to prefer the former though.

Steady hands and total cerebral focus mandatory.....

Jennifer Mitol
(Jenmitol) - M

Locale: In my dreams....
Notice not a single woman on this thread?? on 03/09/2013 09:19:12 MST Print View

How many times I wished I had a large ziplock with me in the tent...especially when I first started hiking with my dog a few years ago. If I left the tent in the night, in the rain...he'd run right out and want to play...then get back in the tent all wet and muddy. Now, he lifts his head, MAYBE pokes his snout out the door to see that I'm not doing anything he cares about, then goes back to sleep.

I would never trust my skills to pee in a bag/bottle in my tent. Way way too much possibility for mess. But boy have I wanted to.......

Diplomatic Mike
(MikefaeDundee)

Locale: Under a bush in Scotland
Re Toilet practice on 03/09/2013 09:21:58 MST Print View

Sleep in a quilt, under a floor-less shelter. Simply roll over, lift, and let go. :-)
And have a dump under cover before you leave in the morning.

Edited by MikefaeDundee on 03/09/2013 09:22:38 MST.

Jennifer Mitol
(Jenmitol) - M

Locale: In my dreams....
The vestibule can look awfully inviting.., on 03/09/2013 09:24:57 MST Print View

I have SO badly sometimes wondered if I could without actually getting anything on my stuff. Again...not enough aim on my part. And usually if I have to go that badly it seems like its going to be a lot more than David's 16oz........

Diplomatic Mike
(MikefaeDundee)

Locale: Under a bush in Scotland
Aim on 03/09/2013 09:28:03 MST Print View

Why not practice with a Shewee, Jennifer? I know you use a quilt.

Jan S
(karl-ton)
Re: The vestibule can look awfully inviting.., on 03/09/2013 09:48:57 MST Print View

You do know about stuff like this? http://www.whizproducts.co.uk/en/whiz_freedom.aspx

I have something like that kinda built in, so never used it. But it comes at 18 g which seems okay if it's cold and wet and muddy outside. They also sell matching bags, but I personally use a dedicated (drinking from a bottle where my urin just spend 6 hours inside is really not for me) 1 L Nalgene wide mouth in winter. In the summer I just go outside.

Edit: Added missing letters.

Edited by karl-ton on 03/09/2013 09:50:42 MST.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Funnel on 03/09/2013 10:09:04 MST Print View

Would a funnel help.

Rusty Beaver
(rustyb) - F

Locale: Rocky Mountains
Re: Re: The vestibule can look awfully inviting.., on 03/09/2013 10:37:59 MST Print View

"(drinking from a bottle where my urin just spend 6 hours inside is really not for me)"

It wouldn't be for me either...if I were using a plastic bottle. Unlike stainless, plastic has a way of retaining flavors and odors. Urine flavored and scented water. Meh....no thanks.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Pee bottle?? best practices on 03/09/2013 10:42:50 MST Print View

Sawyer's got the answer! At least for us guys.

I'm going to get one of their New! Revolutionary! Fast-Fill adapters. I'm going to have it surgically implanted in my johnson. If I have to pee in the middle of the night, no problem! I just remove the 'head,' attach the plastic tubing I've preset that runs out of the shelter, do my business, then remove the hose and reattach my normal bits.

What could be easier!?! Sawyer thought they were revolutionizing hydration, but they're actually revolutionizing the midnight pee break!

Jennifer Mitol
(Jenmitol) - M

Locale: In my dreams....
It's called a catheter on 03/09/2013 10:48:48 MST Print View

And if you're interested doug I can get you a couple. Just insert the tubing, attach to the sawyer, and there you go!! You can leave those things in for weeks at a time (but watch for infection!)...a real hydration "bladder" that you can use while hiking...no need to ever stop!


Now THAT'S UL!!!!

Edited by Jenmitol on 03/09/2013 10:50:27 MST.

Jan S
(karl-ton)
Re: Re: Pee bottle?? best practices on 03/09/2013 10:55:52 MST Print View

I hear the insertion process is rather painful and if you do it wrong and miss channels you get to know pain very, very intimately for quite some time (and probably miss out on any kids if that is in general still an option). No surgery required though. All necessary holes are there. If you want new holes you can pierce directly into the bladder through the stomach. Not something I would want but YMMV :)

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: It's called a catheter on 03/09/2013 11:02:05 MST Print View

No no, Jennifer, not a catheter. You must not have seen the video of the new Sawyer fast-fill adapters.

See here: http://vimeo.com/60845892#

Jeffs Eleven
(WoodenWizard) - F

Locale: Greater Mt Tabor
Re: Re: It's called a catheter on 03/09/2013 11:11:07 MST Print View

bit of drift:

Was that the 'revolutionary' system they introduced?

...sorta like what I was doing last year with my Frontier Pro and Platy?



Doug maybe you could get a 'hydration port' installed in your sleeping bag. At the appropriate height, of course.


(right around the knees, right?)

M B
(livingontheroad) - M
pee on 03/09/2013 16:19:26 MST Print View

How about dont drink anything after 5 pm, and pee immediately before go to bed?

Depends on the size of ones prostate I guess.

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: pee on 03/09/2013 16:59:19 MST Print View

>How about dont drink anything after 5 pm, and pee immediately before go to bed?

Keeping well hydrated will help keep you warmer at night. It does have the drawback of possibly having to pee during the night though.

Jan S
(karl-ton)
Re: pee on 03/09/2013 17:05:19 MST Print View

"How about dont drink anything after 5 pm, and pee immediately before go to bed?"

Still makes me want to pee in the morning. And until I've crawled out of the sleeping bag in winter, put on more clothes and those darn ski boots, opened the tent, crawled out of that, ran to a tree, undid all the clothes again ... it's too late. Yes, been there, done that. Wasn't pretty and I'm not proud of it.

Marc Eldridge
(meld) - MLife

Locale: The here and now.
Little John on 03/09/2013 17:45:58 MST Print View

A little heavy but it has a wide mouth so you don't miss.


ljy

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Pee bottle?? best practices on 03/09/2013 18:34:50 MST Print View

Get outta bed and go. Unless it is pouring, I would be outside.

But I dare you to stand under a full moon with frost on the brush all around and NOT look over your shoulder during the process. So, so ..... vulnerable. I rarely if ever need to answer nature's call during the night, at home or otherwise.

Edited by dwambaugh on 03/09/2013 20:20:35 MST.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: Re: Pee bottle?? best practices on 03/09/2013 18:38:18 MST Print View

I get out of my bag and kneel at the door and pee in to a bottle in the porch.

Jeffs Eleven
(WoodenWizard) - F

Locale: Greater Mt Tabor
Re: Re: Re: Pee bottle?? best practices on 03/09/2013 19:49:24 MST Print View

I tried a platy. No fun. Gotta concentrate way too hard.

Kneeling in a tent, on a pad, pants down, et al makes it too hard.


...and you never know when you're gonna get that sideways stream.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: Re: Re: Pee bottle?? best practices on 03/09/2013 19:59:26 MST Print View

"Kneeling in a tent, on a pad, pants down, et al makes it too hard."

Must .............. resist ............... responding .............

Kevin Schneringer
(Slammer) - MLife

Locale: Oklahoma Flat Lands
Pee bottle? on 03/09/2013 20:03:58 MST Print View

I grew up around dairy farms...never tried this but might be an easy way to hook up a hose? Just sayin,

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pee bottle?? best practices on 03/09/2013 20:30:37 MST Print View

Kneeling in a tent, on a pad, pants down, et al makes it too hard."

Must .............. resist ............... responding .............


I just open my fly mate :-)

Jeffs Eleven
(WoodenWizard) - F

Locale: Greater Mt Tabor
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pee bottle?? best practices on 03/09/2013 20:41:00 MST Print View

Bwaaa haahaa

arghh missed that one!!!



You can never change that avatar!

Jeffs Eleven
(WoodenWizard) - F

Locale: Greater Mt Tabor
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pee bottle?? best practices on 03/09/2013 23:42:01 MST Print View

The real reason Doug cant pee in a bottle:

//ewforoij

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pee bottle?? best practices on 03/10/2013 00:08:38 MST Print View

That's one big c*ck.

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: Re: Pee bottle?? best practices on 03/10/2013 03:06:01 MDT Print View

> I dare you to stand under a full moon with frost on the brush all around and NOT look
> over your shoulder during the process. So, so ..... vulnerable.
Vulnerable to what?
The stars are beautiful!

But I never need to go in the night anyhow.

Cheers

Jim Colten
(jcolten) - M

Locale: MN
Re: Re: Re: Pee bottle?? best practices on 03/10/2013 06:35:42 MDT Print View

>> I dare you to stand under a full moon with frost on the brush all around and NOT look
>> over your shoulder during the process. So, so ..... vulnerable.
>Vulnerable to what?


Well Roger, there is this ... or at least the imagination thereof.

Imagination ... so useful! .... but sometimes so oppressive!

Edited by jcolten on 03/10/2013 06:37:33 MDT.

Daryl and Daryl
(lyrad1) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest, USA, Earth
Re: Re: Re: Re: Pee bottle?? best practices on 03/10/2013 09:18:53 MDT Print View

Jim,

Where did you get all those photos? Are you a game warden or something?

I too have the same concern as Dale and rarely leave the tent at night for anything. Your photos encourage me to stick with this policy.

Jim Colten
(jcolten) - M

Locale: MN
Re: Pee bottle?? best practices on 03/10/2013 12:38:43 MDT Print View

Where did you get all those photos? Are you a game warden or something?

I am not but I know a couple game wardens.

Those photos were the result of a google image search.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: Pee bottle?? best practices on 03/10/2013 12:40:52 MDT Print View

"Those photos were the result of a google image search."

I especially liked the ones of the women's basketball game. That'd cause me to be looking over my shoulder while peeing at midnight, I can tell you that.....

Travis Leanna
(T.L.) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Over the shoulder on 03/10/2013 12:53:01 MDT Print View

My parents cabin is about 10 yards out of the picture. I often will set up a tarp to sleep under between those very trees.

One time during the night a noise woke my mom up. Her bed is next to a window, and when she pulled up the blinds, a bear was right there, scratching at the side.

Ghh

Edited by T.L. on 03/10/2013 12:56:35 MDT.

Richard Fischel
(RICKO) - F
the nalgene wide-mouth cantene - 32 fl. oz. is my choice on 03/11/2013 07:40:12 MDT Print View

where it becomes invaluable to have, even if you don't plan on using it, is when it's so cold that if you opened or exited your sleeping bag you'd never be able to get it warm again. also (not including rain or falling snow), there may be environmental reasons that make exiting the tent in the middle of the night a bad idea. as much a using a pee bottle is a pain, not using one can make for even a bigger problem if you can't sleep because of either a full bladder or because your sleeping bag is now cold and there's no way to warm it up. i find that in my wm antelope i have enough room to roll over to my knees. practice prior to using this method in the field is advisable. it pays to have a thought out plan so that in a sleep induced fog, you are sufficently aware of the steps involved and to close the lid properly. so who's gonna start the thread on blue-bags?