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Brian Camprini
(bcamprini) - MLife

Locale: Southern Appalachians
Re: Hawk on 09/06/2012 21:31:35 MDT Print View

Sorry Scott I'm not into dead chicks like you:)

I didn't pick it up but I think I know what you mean about being able to see if the neck was broken. I was about to reach down, but I'd been nursing an infected finger cut since before the trip even started, so I figured I'd give hygiene a try and leave the dead stuff alone. I just gave it a toe push and don't remember if the neck was limp or not.

Anyhow, I learned some stuff in this thread, and I got some laughs too. I suppose I'll end this with a killer pic from this trip...perhaps the best sunset ever (not photoshopped! -- credit goes to Brad Rogers):

titcomb

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: What killed this hawk? on 09/06/2012 21:38:18 MDT Print View

Obviously done in by someone's unleashed dog.

peter vacco
(fluff@inreach.com) - M

Locale: no. california
Re: What killed this hawk? on 09/06/2012 21:43:46 MDT Print View

Probably George Bush.

i've found that with problems, it's usually George Bush.
if it's bad, and there is no doubt a rational answer for it. we've had a good bit of success blaming George Bush.

heck .. give it a try !
... millions do.
it saves lord only knows how much actual thinking. and it's FAST !

Brian Camprini
(bcamprini) - MLife

Locale: Southern Appalachians
George's dog on 09/06/2012 21:54:35 MDT Print View

Yeah, it was probably friggin' Barney:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_(dog)

Stephen Barber
(grampa) - MLife

Locale: SoCal
re: falcon on 09/06/2012 22:02:42 MDT Print View

Another vote for a merlin, "prairie" phase.

Yellow feathers = warbler or goldfinch.

Death - likely head-on collision with something solid.

Gary Dunckel
(Zia-Grill-Guy) - MLife

Locale: Boulder
And the winner is... on 09/06/2012 22:39:55 MDT Print View

It's a tie--Mike and Doug for their insights. The bird is obviously the loser here.

David Thomas
(DavidinKenai) - MLife

Locale: North Woods. Far North.
Re: What killed this hawk? on 09/06/2012 22:59:57 MDT Print View

No obvious signs of trauma, but we have big picture windows and when the outisde reflections are strong, we get bird strikes. They don't appear "broken" in their head, neck, etc, although I haven't tried to comparing them to other dead birds.

So I'm liking the theory of it hitting a tree while engaging another bird as prey.

We think that squirrels never fall out of trees, but they do.

We think seals never drown, but they can.

We all think engineers never make mistakes, but do they do (rarely).

Yeah, bird screw up sometimes.

Doug: Touche'

Jim Colten
(jcolten) - M

Locale: MN
re: falcon on 09/06/2012 23:36:10 MDT Print View

I'm gonna go with a Cooper's Hawk but it would help if there was an object of known size in the photo.

Granted, we don't have Prairie Merlins in MN but from photos I see they have more (and more closely spaced) dark bands across the tail than accipiters. Also, I'm also not seeing a falcon's tomial tooth on the upper beak mandrel but the photo angle is not ideal for that.

The long toes would be found on both falcons and accipiters so that doesn't help.

So, if it IS a sharp-shinned or cooper's then the barrel shaped body argues for a cooper's (sharp-shinned are teardrop shaped, broader shoulders and narrower hips). The photo angle is not so good for seeing head shape but it appears to have the cooper's trademarked flat topped head.

Leigh Baker
(leighb) - F

Locale: Northeast Texas Pineywoods
RE: bird on 09/07/2012 05:27:06 MDT Print View

Douglas,
Thanks for making my morning!!Always love to start the day off with a laugh!

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: bird on 09/07/2012 08:12:13 MDT Print View

No, it was the team Cheney created to blow up the WTC

They erected a wall for the bird to fly into, then quickly took down the wall and restored the site so no one would know...

David Thomas
(DavidinKenai) - MLife

Locale: North Woods. Far North.
Re: Re: bird on 09/07/2012 09:20:59 MDT Print View

Jerry:

No, Cheney was out shotgunning and mistook the bird for a lawyer.

Terry Trimble
(socal-nomad) - F

Locale: North San Diego county
What killed this hawk? on 09/07/2012 11:57:30 MDT Print View

A murder of Crow or Raven could have killed it protecting their chicks?

If the location is near where Radio controlled glider pilots are it could have tangled with a glider?

I use to fly slope gliders near where red tail hawks fly when I flew RC glider. I always kept my distance but some times the hawks would swoop down and hit my 2 to 3 pound slope gliders with a thud and the hawk would usually recover from the crash and go on to protect it territory.

Or simple answer is birds just die after a while of old age or decease?
Terry

Joe Clement
(skinewmexico) - MLife

Locale: Southwest
What killed this hawk? on 09/07/2012 14:30:36 MDT Print View

Idester for the win!

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
Virus? on 09/08/2012 07:52:07 MDT Print View

West Nile virus? Not sure it is in WY though.
Duane

Ike Jutkowitz
(Ike) - M

Locale: Central Michigan
re: Doug on 09/08/2012 08:07:45 MDT Print View

ROFL.
Doug: you nailed everyone else's responses, but not your own.

Douglas Ide: I'll just buy 3 different dead birds, see which one matches most closely, and give away the other two.

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: Doug on 09/08/2012 08:31:53 MDT Print View

Wrong Ike

Douglas Ide: "Oh, a dead bird on the ground, I feel like creating clever poetry..."

Diplomatic Mike
(MikefaeDundee)

Locale: Under a bush in Scotland
Easy on 09/08/2012 08:55:39 MDT Print View

"Mike Reid - If it's a Scottish hawk then it's probably just drunk, not dead. Did you smell its breath?"

It looks like a lesser spotted Didster Shite Hawk. :-)

The yellow probably came from the feathers on Dougs Halloween costume.