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Matt Porter
(onehappycampster) - MLife
Bob Lane collapsible cup on 08/27/2012 16:02:55 MDT Print View

I pick up this little gem from Ebay. My camera SD card crapped out but here's an article written that tells a bit about the cup. http://zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=72375 Very lightweight and a cool little collector's piece. Very usable as well. I Googled it and found a copy of the patent. One made in TI foil would be very cool. Cheers.

Matt

John Whynot
(jdw01776)

Locale: Southeast Texas
Re: Bob Lane collapsible cup on 08/27/2012 17:51:03 MDT Print View

I remember the Bob Lane cup being available when I first started backpacking in 1976...

John Abela
(JohnAbela) - MLife

Locale: www.hikelighter.com
Re: Bob Lane collapsible cup on 08/27/2012 18:18:55 MDT Print View

Ok, that is pretty cool !!!

Matt Porter
(onehappycampster) - MLife
Re: Re: Bob Lane collapsible cup on 08/27/2012 19:14:36 MDT Print View

It's a shame they stopped making it. I've read that LL Bean was the retailer. Maybe they'll start back someday.

Bill Fornshell
(bfornshell) - MLife

Locale: Southern Texas
Re: Bob Lane collapsible cup on 08/27/2012 20:01:09 MDT Print View

Hi,

Thanks Matt for posting this.

I love clever and this is clever.

I found where one sold on ebay for $50. I also found the Patent information.

I might try and make one out of some of my .016" titanium sheet if I can work out the rivet?? / sliding part.

John Abela
(JohnAbela) - MLife

Locale: www.hikelighter.com
Re: Re: Bob Lane collapsible cup on 08/27/2012 20:02:14 MDT Print View

At what point did the patent expire?? (if it has)

If it has expired and you make one, I would love to pick one up from you if you figure out a way to make them work!!

John Whynot
(jdw01776)

Locale: Southeast Texas
Re: Re: Re: Bob Lane collapsible cup on 08/27/2012 20:10:27 MDT Print View

I remember that my father's cousin had one of these. It was very springy stainless(?) steel. It snapped into a cone shape when opened. Now I wish I had bought one. Also wish I had kept my Svea stove and Silva compass...

Matt Porter
(onehappycampster) - MLife
Re: Re: Bob Lane collapsible cup on 08/27/2012 20:39:16 MDT Print View

I like the cup but I don't like $50 worth...but a TI version may be worth it just to be the coolest kid in the woods! LOL I just measured the thickness using my digital calipers. It's ".007 thick. You don't think the TI sheet you have is too thick? It's pretty springy stuff.

I have two Svea stoves. Pretty cool but big and heavy. I must admit old school always looks the best in my eyes.

Bill I'll shoot you whatever dimensions you may need.

I'm looking on the US Patent site right now to see what I can find out.

Edited by onehappycampster on 08/27/2012 20:56:41 MDT.

John S.
(jshann) - F
Re: Bob Lane collapsible cup on 08/27/2012 21:23:53 MDT Print View

Pat. No. 3,087,640

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3087640.pdf

Edited by jshann on 08/27/2012 21:26:15 MDT.

Matt Porter
(onehappycampster) - MLife
Re: Re: Bob Lane collapsible cup on 08/27/2012 21:25:59 MDT Print View

I read that, too. All I can find on a patent search is that it was issued in 1963. I'm sure there's an office that could inform a person if a patent is expired.

John S.
(jshann) - F
Re: Re: Bob Lane collapsible cup on 08/27/2012 21:31:35 MDT Print View

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/EP0927527A1.pdf

This upgrade can be set horizontal and stand up.

Bill Fornshell
(bfornshell) - MLife

Locale: Southern Texas
Re: Re: Bob Lane collapsible cup on 08/27/2012 21:42:36 MDT Print View

Hi,

I printed out the patent drawings and using the photos with the ebay sale as a reference they look to be somewhere around 4" long before folding into a cup.
ebay listing:


ebay cup

I can't make the cup link for ebay work. You should be able to do a cut and paste or try looking for the auction # 130706932772. It will tell you something like auction over but they is a place to click something like "look at original listing".

Th Patent date is Sept 22, 1960 and I expect it is still active. I have no idea how long a Patent lasts. I found the Patent using the number (3,087,640)on Google:


Cup Patent

Anyway, a person can make something that is covered by a Patent if it is for "their use only", I think.

Edited by bfornshell on 08/27/2012 21:54:34 MDT.

Matt Porter
(onehappycampster) - MLife
Re: Re: Re: Bob Lane collapsible cup on 08/27/2012 21:51:30 MDT Print View

It's 5 1/2" when laying flat.

Bill Fornshell
(bfornshell) - MLife

Locale: Southern Texas
Re: Re: Re: Re: Bob Lane collapsible cup on 08/27/2012 21:56:11 MDT Print View

Thanks Phil,

That makes things easier.

Matt Porter
(onehappycampster) - MLife
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bob Lane collapsible cup on 08/27/2012 22:00:43 MDT Print View

I wish I could snap a pic for you. The memory card just HAD to fail. Just let me know what else I can measure for you.

I really like the version John provided a link for.

At first I wondered who "Phil" is. Then I realized I had my account set to the billing info from 2 years ago. I use my middle name, Matthew. So just call me Matt.

Edited by onehappycampster on 08/27/2012 22:07:18 MDT.

Bill Fornshell
(bfornshell) - MLife

Locale: Southern Texas
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bob Lane collapsible cup on 08/27/2012 22:15:16 MDT Print View

I made a copy of the Patent drawing using 5.5 inches as the width. I am getting ready to print it out both pieces on card stock for the pattern.

I assume you have a real one? What does the rivet look like. I will try a pop rivet first and see if that will work.

I will make the first couple out of some thin aluminum and see if that will work. Then try a piece of titanium or thin stainless steel.

The only titanium I have is some .016 of an inch.

Matt Porter
(onehappycampster) - MLife
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bob Lane collapsible cup on 08/27/2012 22:22:20 MDT Print View

I do have a real one. With the paper envelope as well. Are you able to receive pic messages on your cell phone?

Peter Griffith
(petergriffith) - MLife

Locale: SoCal
Re: Re: Re: Bob Lane collapsible cup on 08/27/2012 22:24:24 MDT Print View

The patent has expired. Here's a link explaining current US patent terms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Term_of_patent_in_the_United_States

Matt Porter
(onehappycampster) - MLife
Re: Re: Re: Re: Bob Lane collapsible cup on 08/27/2012 22:36:14 MDT Print View

Very cool info thanks.

Mr. Bill, just pm me your cell phone number and I'll send you a pic of one of the rivets using my cell phone. They look like small flat head or tinner's rivets to me. I'd opt for the tinners' rivets for reasons of holding power.

Bill Fornshell
(bfornshell) - MLife

Locale: Southern Texas
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bob Lane collapsible cup on 08/27/2012 23:11:10 MDT Print View

Matt,

Cell Phone, what is a cell phone? Kidding, I don't have a cell phone and have never even talked on one. How about an email address? I will PM it to you if that will work.

Have a look at the pictures with the ebay sale. They are petty good.

I will try the old fashion rivets. I have some friends that make custom jewelry and they should know where I can get some or they might even do it for me.