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Hoover Wilderness..Twin Lakes Trailhead to Peeler Lake and Beyond...Need some advice
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Ken Helwig
(kennyhel77) - MLife

Locale: Scotts Valley CA via San Jose, CA
Hoover Wilderness..Twin Lakes Trailhead to Peeler Lake and Beyond...Need some advice on 08/26/2012 15:32:26 MDT Print View

A buddy (yes I have friends..) and I are heading out next week and heading into Hoover Wilderness. We are heading out at the Twin Lakes trailhead, with our first night at Peeler Lake, over Rock Island Pass, and then spending our second night at Crown or Robinson Lake and then out the next day. Any advice on spots to camp, trail conditions, etc would be appreciated. Thank you!

Andrew F
(andrew.f) - F - M

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: Hoover on 08/26/2012 16:02:33 MDT Print View

Ken,

I don't have any trail info, but I'd recommend you allow some extra time if you are planning on parking at Twin Lakes Resort where the Robinson Creek TH is. They make you check in and pay $10 for TH parking, and it took me over an hour on a Saturday morning to wait in the line. Next time I will probably park on the side of the road by the lake and walk in.

It's also a little confusing to actually find the trailhead once you park in their hiker parking lot since there is a maze of unmarked trails branching out around the campground. Be sure to not accidentally end up on the Horse Creek trail. The Robinson Creek TH is marked with a big wooden sign and is at least a 5-10 minute walk due west through the campground from the hiker parking.

Andrew

Ken Helwig
(kennyhel77) - MLife

Locale: Scotts Valley CA via San Jose, CA
Re: Re: Hoover on 08/26/2012 16:16:30 MDT Print View

Andrew, thanks for the information! I did not know the trailhead is difficult to find and thanks on the parking info...I usually don't carry cash...now I have to. We are going mid week and school is back in session, hope that clears some folks out!

Andrew F
(andrew.f) - F - M

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: Hoover on 08/26/2012 18:25:29 MDT Print View

Have fun... enjoy the big stands of aspens on Robinson Creek.

I highly recommend Jolly Kone for a post hike burger... it's like an In-N-Out burger but twice the size (and of course you've been hiking for a few days...)

Andrew

Ken Helwig
(kennyhel77) - MLife

Locale: Scotts Valley CA via San Jose, CA
Re: Re: Hoover on 08/26/2012 19:19:30 MDT Print View

NICE...and I am assuming that is in Bridgeport??? I am a huge foodie....DONE!

Rick Dreher
(halfturbo) - MLife

Locale: Northernish California
Re: Hoover on 08/26/2012 19:24:13 MDT Print View

Charging for parking? Will wonders never cease.

Just returned from a seven-day Hoover-Yosemite loop but out of Leavitt Meadows. More climbing required than the other trailheads, but sometimes that's a good thing for sea level dwellers.

Have a great time!

Rick

Andrew F
(andrew.f) - F - M

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: Hoover on 08/26/2012 19:32:26 MDT Print View

Yep, right on 395 in Bridgeport.

I was a little bummed that the wilderness permit was free but the RV campground got $10 for parking! I'd much rather have it be the other way around and have the money used for trail work, etc...

Rick Dreher
(halfturbo) - MLife

Locale: Northernish California
Re: Hoover on 08/26/2012 19:43:36 MDT Print View

Does any wilderness besides Desolation charge for permits these days? Cost three of us $30 for two nights there this summer. Like you, I'm not offended if it goes directly into maintenance, which is sorely needed.

Which reminds me: there are a LOT of blowdowns in southern Hoover-Northern Yosemite. Some big storm must have hit last year, as we kept running across (and over and under) big stands of mature trees ripped out by the roots. IIUC the Red's Meadow area suffered similarly, but none of these has been cleared. Some are so bad that trails will require rerouting.

Cheers,

Rick

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re: Hoover on 08/26/2012 20:39:12 MDT Print View

Some wilderness areas have free permits, but you have to pay if you want to reserve one. Other areas, you pay regardless of reservations or not. It costs the agency a certain amount of money to operate its wilderness, so the money goes to that.

--B.G.--

Ken Helwig
(kennyhel77) - MLife

Locale: Scotts Valley CA via San Jose, CA
Re: Re: Re: Hoover on 08/27/2012 07:28:14 MDT Print View

Thanks Andrew we'll hit that place up when we come out. Rick, I bet the blow down was frin our winter two years ago. We had a late season storm that had some of the highest winds we've encountered. I heard about Reds Meadow but not Hoover

jeffrey armbruster
(book) - M

Locale: Northern California
"Hoover Wilderness..Twin Lakes Trailhead to Peeler Lake on 08/27/2012 10:05:52 MDT Print View

I'm pretty sure that the blowdown was from last year. On the Benson Lake loop there are two big ones--the most annoying is right at Benson Lake; the other is between Mule and Burrow pass. This really has been the year of blowdowns. Every trip I've taken has involved at least one major blowdown--and I haven't been to Reds Meadows!

Rick Dreher
(halfturbo) - MLife

Locale: Northernish California
Re:Hoover on 08/27/2012 17:11:28 MDT Print View

The backcountry ranger at Upper Piute warned us and sure enough, acres of big old lodgepoles, all toppled by the rootballs.

I'm speculating last winter ('11-'12) based on the remaining green needles, but perhaps they can remain green longer than a season? In any case, it was a persistent theme throughout the trip, just at its worst in that first encounter.

Cheers,

Rick