I'm relativly new here, but I'm not new to BPing, and I just don't quite understand how so many poeple in the UL community seem to think that somehow a large and/or heavy pack somehow always equates suffering or machismo, etc....
What happened to the idea of HYOH? It's kind of like people who go overly prepared have this misconcieved notion that L/UL/SUL hikers are somehow unsafe or uncomfortable.. In both cases, it may be right on an individual basis, but also may be wrong...
Different folks can handle different loads... There are people out there who can easily hike many repeated 25+ mile days in a row with a 50-70# pack without it being about suffering in the least. Likewise, there are (plenty of unfortunatly) people who if they had to hike even 10 miles for just one day, even with a 8# pack on, would see it as a miserable experience that would make them hate the outdoors... I get the feeling for some reason people seem to think that unless you have a sub 20#/10#/5# base it is somehow impossible to have fun... That's crazy talk.
Point is, there are a hell of a lot more factors that determine if someone enjoys backpacking/wilderness hiking than just the weight of what they carry on their back. I'm finding that many people in the UL communitty have become so singlemindedly focused on weight that they forget that... To the detriment of the experience overall, IMO.
Just my 0.02 And keep in mind this is the 0.02 of someone who will carry a glass bottle of good wine and a 2# oven 20 plus miles in for an overnighter because he doesn't want to risk it going skunky from being placed in a plastic (lightweight) container - yeah, it's not lightweight, but I get to sip a non skunky pinot while eating baked brie in the backcountry... Everyone has to find that balance point between weight and comfort and dollars... I doubt I'll ever be truly "UL" because I just am not comfy enough around the campground with that type of gear.. I like my creature comforts around camp - fresh baked brownies for sesert, cinnamon rolls for breakfast, thick, extra wide sleeping pads, etc - enough that it's well worth the extra effort to carry them... For others it's not worth it.
The good thing about the UL world is that there is some trickle down to middle grounders like me, and that helps.