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David A
(DavidAdair) - M

Locale: West Dakota
Re: Re: Light Pack for Heavy Loads on 07/30/2012 21:21:43 MDT Print View

My choice for carrying 40-45lbs on a regular basis would be a 70's era Kelty external frame. That or an old Alpenlite like John recommends. Those old Alpenlites may be the highest development of the aluminum external frame pack. The pack linked below is a D4 pack with a mountaineer frame and has the padded hipbelt and stainless steel quick release cam buckle. It would weigh a little over 5 lbs. You could pack out either Patrick or Dan with it as long as you quartered them first. Actually, I am sure the expensive packs are worth the money if you have a lot of it.

Mark Montag
(mMontag) - F
Deuter Act Zero on 07/30/2012 23:33:22 MDT Print View


Save yourself 2-lbs using a Deuter Act Zero 50+15 in lieu of the Aether - a little over 3-lbs, fully adjustable and very capable for heavier loads comfortably.

Mike Allen
(michaellea62) - F

Locale: UTAH
Mchale Pack on 07/31/2012 00:00:19 MDT Print View

I have a mchale critical mass || w/bayonet pack that I would sell you. It is a great load hauling pack, a dream to carry heavy loads. The pack is in great condition because they are built so good. I bought it when i was working with the scouts and needed to carry heavier loads (also before finding backpackinglight), but really don't have a need for it now. If your interested you can email me at for more details and specific sizing.

Ryan Slack
(RWSlack) - F

Locale: Minnesota
external frame on 07/31/2012 14:25:33 MDT Print View

Add another +1 to the suggestions for a cheap load-hauler. If I were going on this trip I would use it as an excuse to thrash my old Kelty Super Tioga. In fact I would go cheap on most things, not planning to bring much back with me. You could make the big pack your checked baggage and carry on a small thrift-store rucksack that you can use daily, and may help you appear less touristy.

After all, how many doses of medicine is the money you sink into a pack to haul it worth? Spend money to get there and back. Have an excellent, safe trip.

Harald Hope

Locale: East Bay
expensive gear in the 3rd world? on 07/31/2012 14:41:32 MDT Print View

First lesson I got from my friends who used to travel around the world a lot, don't bring anything you don't mind losing.

Simple lesson, hard for american style consumers to grasp, I used that method and it was great.

You can buy a used lowe alpine outback 70, which is a great pack, about 4 pounds, cordura, old style, no fancy things, it's a bag with side pockets and a top. Has thick solid dual aluminum stays. Large lumbar pad, well padded straps.

Real internal frame, rock solid, I paid $15 US at a fleamarket for mine, easy to find online too. Because it's so minimalist, even with the heavier materials, it's reasonably light.

Will easily carry your weight you want to have, and will not stress you out with losing expensive gear in the hills of peru, which are not the same as the hills of the Sierra Nevada's, where mchale and other expensive packs are reasonably fine to use, if you can handle the cost.

The other practical suggestions here are also good, old externals, though I think I prefer, having used both old style external and internals, internals.

Cordura is indestructable, and the weight difference between a modern and expensive pack and the outback 4 just is not very much in any real sense, about 1 pound maybe max, but the outback is made with heavy grade cordura. The outback stands out to me because it's so minimalist, really all it is the materials required to constract the bag, straps, pad, and frame, and nothing else.

Besides, you are going to be a missionary, and what did Jesus really feel about excessive consumption and all that in the end, right? Doesn't hurt to practice what one preaches, tends to impress those you are preaching to. The least you need to do the job is the right choice, and getting rid of the consumerist mindset is the best place to start on finding that least. Wasn't he the guy who wandered around deserts with nothing, and has basically no possessions? And who knows, maybe if you're really lucky, you'll be the one who gets converted...

Edited by hhope on 07/31/2012 14:53:59 MDT.

John Nausieda
(Meander) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: expensive gear in the 3rd world? on 07/31/2012 18:25:29 MDT Print View

Very sensible advice.I'd analyze everything in terms of hassle and loss.First barrier language. Can you speak local? Second can you bargain? Worst time I ever had a blown CF card in China . Even with perfect Mandarin 8 hours to get another.Lesson. Travel with multiple back-ups. Other example -good enough. Bring the Pentax SLR? No . Heavy . Alternative. Pentax 928 with remote. Price about $8 plus shipping on ebay.28mm at the wide end, 90 at the tele.Film developing is cheap in China. One camera fails in freezing weather at Chengde. So what ? We take out the batteries and leave it on a counter in a shop. It will be recycled or repaired in China. Everything is. Analyze everything you are bringing. Clothes? Technical gear is often faked in the 3rd World. Immune system ? You aren't local so look out. Filtration, sanitation, are antibiotics non prescription? Etc. Etc. Etc.My take on Internal vs External? I have both . If it is hellish hot the right External will let your back sweat evaporate better than the internal .My Lowepro bought for a buck at a yardsale used once in Europe.Not sure I'd like the fabric super wet-long time to dry? Otherwise very solid.So flip your coin or buy both and decide. Advice ? Bring comfort food , freeze dried unobtanium.Watch out for mice. NO FLASH . No jewelry. No cellphone unless a junker.Research unlocked stuff and 3rd world bands. No computer unless a junker with a keyed security cable not a combo. I can go on and on. Other local issues -electricity , etc. The more you cover the basics the less hassle you might have. And by the end of the trip leave it all with your new friends unless you get hooked. Getting your backpack there on an airline is a whole nother issue . So post your needs. Your adventure is real . Hope we can take some rough edges down a tad.Welcome to the wanderlust.

Edited by Meander on 08/01/2012 20:35:41 MDT.