The Evernew 0.9L titanium pot weighs just 2.12 ounces sans lid and handles. I just found my new solo winter and traveling w/ the wife pot. The handles are easily removeable without damage. The lid is quite heavy for SUL trips so I'll use foil like I do now anyway. It fits nice though if you do want to keep it. The base is also nice and wide keeping the flames from being wasted up the side of the pot and there are volume graduations on the inside. I am tempted to add a ti spoke/rod bail though...

Not a bad birthday present from the sister in law :)

Edited by Pivvay on 02/28/2007 21:35:35 MST.

Christopher,
I also have this pot. How did you remove the handles? Whats the SUL method for lifting your pot on and off the stove, or handling it in general, with no more handles and no bail?
Cool pot...I like mine.
-Trent

I think you can just spread the handles apart to remove.

Well I always have gloves with a leather palm and fingers (I'm a SUL mtn biker more than a hiker) so it's never been a problem just using my gloved hands. I probably will add a bail to make everything a bit easier to use but one with a ti spoke adds a pretty small amount of weight. The handles just pull right out of their "holder". Just pull gently or you'll have to bend them back together again when you put them back in. I already put them back on for storage anyway.

wow, I feel like an idiot. I was looking at the BPL handless pot b/c I though I would ruin my .9L Evernew if I tried to take the handles off. You guys are a huge help. I just pulled mine off in less tahn a second. My scale register 2.0 oz w/o lid or handles. Thanks

I have been thinking about using the Snow Peak Titanium Bowl as an UL solo cook pot. Its weight is 1.6 oz and it has a 2.5 cup/20 oz capacity. It costs only $14 at rei. So, it is significantly cheaper and slightly lighter than the the Evernew .9L pot and the BPL Firelite 500-SUL pot. 2.5 cups is certainly enough capacity for my typical boil in a bag meals.

I would have to add a foil lid. I would just use my wool gloves to handle it. I guess the bottom of the bowl has a smaller surface area which is probably a disadvantage when boiling water. But, I plan to try it with a homemade woodburning stove so Im not too concerned about fuel efficiency.

Does anybody know of any big disadvantage to using the Snow Peak Titanium Bowl as an UL cook pot? Other than the beer can pots, it seems to be the best value out there by far.

Edited by sdwhitey on 03/04/2007 19:54:31 MST.

>Other than the beer can pots, it seems to be the best value out there by far.


I can't think of any reason to not use the Snow Peak Titanium Bowl as a cook pot as long as the bowl base fits well in your pot stand. But for value (excepting the beer cans) it's hard to beat the Mirro 1-quart Grease Pot (pot only: 2.5 oz) available at WalMart for about $6. I've used mine quite a bit and it is holding up well. The bottom is 5.5" in diameter for good heat transfer with alcohol stoves.

A few years ago I tried using the snow peak bowl as a cook pot. My memory is that it worked... but it took around 10% more fuel than the antigravitygear 3 cup pot, and close to 35% more fuel than my evernew .9l (with sgt rock's ion stove). I also found that the curved edges made it a bit more challenges to stay on the pot rest and not slide off.

--Mark

In my rather subjective and variable use of all three of these items (aluminum Evernew though..), I found that a tight fitting lid is very important in reducing fuel use and boil times (while holding other factors constant). A foil lid is not durable and does not fit tightly. Also, a foil bowl lid is only a lid/or windscreen, whereas the lid from the Snowpeak Trek 900 serves as a lid, deep frypan, eating bowl, drinking cup, pot base, and inverted on top of the pot it can warm a second item using the excess heat. The Trek 900 is the most versitile per unit weight in my usage and opinion.
If you only use a pot to boil water for breakfast and dinner though, maybe the bowl is sufficient for you.

Any suggestions as to how to safely take the handle off a Snowpeak 900mL pot? The handles themselves come off easy enough but the little tab that hold them in place is quite the bear. I believe the welds to be stronger than the titanium itself so trying to break them could prove damaging to the pot.

Sam, there was a post about this some time ago. I think it was Jhaura who removed the welded on piece and also trimmed a little off the top of the pot. I'm going by memory here and could be wrong. As I recall, a Dremel tool was used to grind down the spot welds until the metal was weak enough to be pulled free. I think you are right about the strength of the welds. Using brute force will damage the pot.

Eric, thank you for the reply. I did some searching but maybe not to the depth necessary. I could always e-mail Jhuara directly as well if need be.

I'll be visiting my parent's home this weekend and my dad has a nice workshop (unlike me who lives in a 500 sq. ft apartment - ultralight to the core!). I can play around a dremel and see if I can't remove those welds. Taking some of the top of the pot isn't a bad idea either.

I'm using the 900mL pot because it fits my Bushbuddy nicely in terms of width. The depth however has some leeway so removal of some of the top material followed by a polite rounding out of the lip would make for a sub-two ounce pot.

Sam, I found the thread and it was Jhuara who started it. I had to laugh, you participated in the discussion as well. Not laughing at you, my memory can be very spotty as well.

Edited by ericnoble on 03/21/2007 09:42:21 MDT.

Thanks for posting the thread, Eric. And yes we should both have a laugh since we post participated! A couple months ago I counted up all the posts I'd made to the various Forums I'm a member of and the number was well over 5,000 so I suppose I can cut myself some slack in not remembering ; )

The handle comes on and off in a second. Why would you want to remove the little handle bracket? You would loose the capability to put the handle back on.
Being that concerned about weight still surprises me, even though this is BPL.. wow.

> Being that concerned about weight still surprises me

Those are almost fightin' words on BPL. ; )

The reason I want to remove the handle altogether is because I am THAT concerned about weight. I pore over my gear spreadsheet at least once a day considering where weight could come off this item or that.

I remove tags from clothing, cut zipper handles shorter, shorten drawcords and pack straps and of course who could call themselves an ultralighter without the shortened-handled toothbrush.

In all honesty I don't need a handle on this pot. I always carry wool gloves when I backpack and they serve wonderfully in lifting a warm pot. There are also great suggestions here on BPL for addition of a simple wire bail to use as a handle that would weigh only grams compared to the 900's stock handle which weighs nearly ounces.

So, short answer to why I do it? Because that's my passion.

Edited by sharalds on 03/21/2007 10:41:30 MDT.

The Caldera Cone has cut-outs for the handles. I've taken the handles off the pot but always need to know where the "brackets" are when I put the pot on the "cone" If I remove the brackets, as shown in Jhaura's post, I can put the pot on the stove any old way and not worry about upsetting the whole thing. Also, using the alumimum sheets I picked up at the salvage yard, I can probably form up a knock-off of the cone with no cut-out. Besides, I need more projects to keep me from getting burried in my taxes.

Jhuaura's lid is cool too. Maybe that aluminum is soft enough to make one.

Edited by redleader on 03/21/2007 10:44:35 MDT.

You bring a toothbrush Sam?! And you call yourself ultralight? :P

> Toothbrush

I know, I know, I know. I am a failure to the movement. Ha!

In keeping with the tendancy of this thread which should probably now be in the MYOG section, here's a link to another thread for building a simple bail for a pot from a titanium bicycle spoke. Simple, efficient and very, very light.

Edited by sharalds on 03/21/2007 11:11:33 MDT.

My Jhaura inspired toothbrush is so light it doesn't even register on my scale. Thank you Jhaura!

p.s. Sorry for the thread drift!

Edited by ericnoble on 03/21/2007 14:54:58 MDT.