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Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Tarptent wish list on 07/07/2012 19:13:58 MDT Print View

What do you hope Henry comes up with next?

I would like to see a Tarptent that looks like a Moment on the outside, but has an inner like the SS1. Sized for a long, wide pad. 45" interior height. 88" long floor minimum.
So nice to have two vestibules,doors for one's self at times. And I don't use poles. A one pole set up for 3 season use with a side entry, dual vestibules is absent from the marketplace. Scarp is overkill, but close. Would not ever use the crossing poles and would rather not look at their attachment points

While I am dreaming, olive brown with black trim would be a sweet alternative to the gray with yellow.

Edited by kthompson on 07/07/2012 19:20:03 MDT.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Tarptent wish list on 07/07/2012 19:24:15 MDT Print View

Ken, you don't need the crossing poles with the Scarp. You could probably have Henry remove the outer fly clips....

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Tarptent wish list on 07/07/2012 19:36:20 MDT Print View

A little narrower would be OK. I am aware of the Scarp's one pole pitch. That is what does make it attractive to me. Never thought to ask for the attachment points to be deleted.

Now about that color...

Donna C
(leadfoot) - M

Locale: Middle Virginia
Re: Re: Tarptent wish list on 07/07/2012 19:37:57 MDT Print View

Bring back the simple tarp tent...Virga.

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Melbourne
Tarptent wish list on 07/07/2012 20:31:35 MDT Print View

In an effort to discourage smokers, the Australian Government commissioned a study to find the least appealing colour to be used in the proposed plain packaging cigarette packets.
The colour chosen for that is dark olive-brown.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-04-22/consumers-buy-death-in-australia-s-cigarette-package-law.html


Franco

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Tarptent wish list on 07/07/2012 20:47:54 MDT Print View

Good. Then Australians won't smoke near my tent.

Mary D
(hikinggranny) - MLife

Locale: Gateway to Columbia River Gorge
Tarptent wish list on 07/07/2012 21:40:52 MDT Print View

The Squall Classic (Henry's design) now that Gossamer Gear has discontinued it. With the zippered vestibule!

Todd Taylor
(texasbb) - F

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Tarptent wish list on 07/07/2012 22:27:57 MDT Print View

Something with dripless entry/exit for a tall guy. I love my Rainbow, but it gets wet inside if you open the door while it's raining. I think Henry claims it's dripless with the door pitched in porch mode, but at 6'5", I literally can't fit under it that way without crawling in like a snake, which gets me and everything else wet anyway.

The Stratospires and Notch are dripless, but I don't think they work for tall people.

Dan Cherry
(risingsun) - F

Locale: Northern Arizona
Cuben? on 07/07/2012 23:08:29 MDT Print View

Strats in cuben would be nice, but I understand the reasoning why it's not happening... In the meantime, the SS1 & SS2 sure are nice as they exist.

K C
(KalebC) - F

Locale: South West
Anything lighter on 07/07/2012 23:17:27 MDT Print View

I would like to see anything lighter, hence the reason I have never bought from tarptent. Designs are cool and all but it all comes down to weight in my book.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Anything lighter on 07/07/2012 23:45:53 MDT Print View

You need start working out.

F. M.
(fmattos) - F
tarptents on 07/08/2012 08:37:49 MDT Print View

I would love to see newer improved designs whatever they are, perhaps more tents that can handle wind and storm better. One thing Henry lacks is a good selection for 3 person tents, I'm sure the majority of people are in the market for one or two person ultralight tents, but for the few who travel in 3 and like to have room the selections are limited =/.

William Wang
(billwang) - M

Locale: SF Bay Area
Cuben please! on 07/08/2012 10:03:25 MDT Print View

Notch and SS2 in Cuben would be awesome. What are the main reasons for not having some cuben fiber offerings?

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Cuben please! on 07/08/2012 10:06:34 MDT Print View

Henry's designs take into account the stretching of the silnylon. Would have to redesign for cuben. Too pricey for the majority factors in as well IWI.

K C
(KalebC) - F

Locale: South West
RE: David on 07/08/2012 10:16:40 MDT Print View

I guess anyone that likes light gear just needs to start working out instead and then carry heavy gear? Am I at the right website?

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Tarptent wishes on 07/08/2012 10:25:05 MDT Print View

So Kaleb want lighter tarptents

David want us to be fitter

Seems reasonable.

Compared to what is still be marketed in the mainstream as ultralight the offerings from TT are still very light. TT is a pretty good size company now. You can't expect niche weight goals anymore only attainable with carbon and cuben. You have choices for that. I don't want a cuben shelter for a myriad of reasons.

A 30oz tent is still freakin light in my book.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: RE: David on 07/08/2012 10:46:15 MDT Print View

The Sublite weighs under 20oz. If you can't carry an extra 2-3 oz for full bug protection, then yes, you need to starting lifting. Preferably squats.

Michael Duke
(mpd1690) - F
Re: Re: RE: David on 07/08/2012 11:11:31 MDT Print View

So squats and water resistant tyvek over just buying a lighter, waterproof, bug proof shelter? I'm all for squats and consider that and dead lifts the best lifts you can do, but this is a backpacking site where the goal is to lighten your pack.

Edited by mpd1690 on 07/08/2012 11:12:14 MDT.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Re: Re: RE: David on 07/08/2012 11:35:07 MDT Print View

I was referring to the Sublite Sil, which I was unaware was no longer made. Will use the Squall as an example. 2 lbs per person. And yes, being fit will negate the need to trim off excess pack straps.

The goal is to lighten the load, which involves maximizing fitness, technique, and lightening what is in your pack. To focus only on carving 2-3 ounces from a 1-1.5lb shelter misses the other parts of the equation. Not to mention that I find it disingenuous when someone posts that they wished TT were lighter without suggesting ways to do this. These are extremely feature rich shelters for the weight of a few cliff bars. And don't mention cuben - there are other cottage manufacturers that provide this and Henry has no interest in using this fabric.

Back to Ken's question, I wouldn't mind seeing a 2 person Notch.

Eric Blumensaadt
(Danepacker) - MLife

Locale: Mojave Desert
AS LONG AS WE'RE TALKING TARPTENTS... on 07/08/2012 14:40:25 MDT Print View

My TT Moment is nice, actually very nice, but I just had to mod it myself.

To wit:
1. toggle tiebacks for the doors (grossgrain ribbons were a PITA)
2. 4 canopy hem tie-out loops around the tent perimeter (for high winds)
3. "Crossing Pole" run INTERNALLY, coming out closable, Velcro-reinforced holes at the apex of the end triangles. (Much more canopy suppport)

So my attitude is if you want a mod then DIY - although another vestibule & door would be almost impossible with the Moment.

My next Moment mod will likely be to replace the horizontal floor-end nets with coated silnylon. (Eliminates some ground moisture from entering the tent & keeps some wind-blown dust from entering)

BUT... I would like to see the Moment with a Cuben fabric canopy/silnylon floor. If it could be sold at a price point near the Skyscape X I'd buy it.

And yeah, lose the yellow pole sleeve. Hard to stealth camp with it.

Edited by Danepacker on 07/08/2012 14:46:38 MDT.