I should get over here more often, I miss this place.
Here is the origonal thread where all the confusion about the name started: http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=51752
As for being "indefensible", I guess that is a relative term, I have been using it allot lately myself. There are some "conservation organizations" here in Utah that are making millions of dollars selling public resources, for private profit. http://www.change.org/petitions/utah-wildlife-board-utah-dwr-add-amendment-to-r657-55-6-convention-permits-to-august-agenda-action-item And I keep saying that defying the Public Trust doctrine, with no accountability or transparencey, is "indefensible". And I think the word applies to the situation quite well. But here, we have an explanation, on the site where 8D is sold, along with a very public history of how it came to be. I think the "indefensiblity" claim is a little over the top. I will however take full resposnibilty for the confusion. The manufacture claimed it was 8 denier, TiGoat pressed them, and was told it was 8x10. TiGoat later independantly assertained it was 10x10, which is why the explanation was posted on the website. So this is a whole lot of nothing about nothing, hot air.
In related fabric news: http://www.backwoodsdaydreamer.com/ and www.owfinc.com, in cooperation with Titanium Goat will be carrying some new fabrics. There are three fabrics, all high thread count 15 denier nano ripstop nylons.
The first is down proof, water resistant, cire finished one side, 57" wide. This fabric is more water resistant than the current M90.
The second fabric is down proof, more water resistant, with a cire finish one side, 61" wide. This fabric is water resistant like the old M90 and current Intrepid.
The third fabric is fully water proof, PU coated one side, Silicone on the other, 61" wide. This material can be seam taped on the PU side.
Are they really 15D*15D? ;-) Stay tuned.