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George Mills
(marienbad) - F
Upper-body Backpack on 06/03/2012 16:51:07 MDT Print View

In the Ultralight world, do people ever hike with a pack that doesn't put any weight on their hips?

Are there packs that strap in very snuggly and hug the chest and ribs and back adequately enough that (for people with strong abdominal muscles) a hip support is unnecessary for light loads?

Kronos Master of Fate
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Upper-body Backpack on 06/03/2012 16:58:30 MDT Print View

Many here find that for loads under 25 pounds that a hipbelt is not needed. Take a look at some of the cottage manufacturers offerings.

Matthew Black
(mtblack)
Re: Upper-body Backpack on 06/03/2012 17:00:35 MDT Print View

I always leave the hip belt off my Swift and keep my load below 22 lbs. I dont have any trouble with shoulder pain so long as I keep things light.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Upper-body Backpack on 06/03/2012 17:18:45 MDT Print View

I always use a hipbelt even if the loads are under 20lbs. It simply affords me the stability I require and as well, allows me to adjust fit on the trail over long days. It has nothing to do with strength (I can still squat significant amounts - >300lbs - and my abdominals are rock hard).

James Marco
(jamesdmarco) - MLife

Locale: Finger Lakes
Re: Re: Upper-body Backpack on 06/03/2012 18:22:18 MDT Print View

Like David, I too always use a hip belt. Minimally, it does stabilizaton if adding little for support, but I tend to loosen the shoulder harness over time.

drowning in spam
(leaftye) - F

Locale: SoCal
Re: Upper-body Backpack on 06/03/2012 19:21:58 MDT Print View

"Are there packs that strap in very snuggly and hug the chest and ribs and back adequately enough that (for people with strong abdominal muscles) a hip support is unnecessary for light loads?"



That sounds difficult to breath in.

Warren Greer
(WarrenGreer) - F

Locale: SoCal
ah on 06/06/2012 23:07:57 MDT Print View

trick question, right?

Tony Ronco
(tr-browsing) - MLife
Hipbelt or No Hipbelt, that is the question. on 06/06/2012 23:21:40 MDT Print View

It is a personal preference that depends on your pack's carry weight being light enough for you to be comfortable.
I personally find that if I keep my carry loads 14 lbs or lower, then a hip belt is superfluous.
If my carry loads are 20 lbs or higher, then a hip belt is a definite necessity.

Edited by tr-browsing on 06/07/2012 21:35:26 MDT.

Lyan Jordan
(redmonk)

Locale: Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem
Upper-body Backpack on 06/07/2012 00:10:30 MDT Print View

I generally tuck my mason jar bear canister under my arm like a football, and go sans hip belt.

If I find I need more support, I use my catheter as a make shift belt.

If I need even more support, I use the lean back wall of my tent to beef up my pack frame.

For even more frame, I put my SAW vertically against my back like a stay.



If I need more support than that I inflate my back country lazy boy to stiffen the pack to the max.

If I don't have a unflatable lazy boy, or, saw, or catheter, I just bring a pack with a hip belt.

Edited by redmonk on 06/07/2012 00:55:22 MDT.

James Marco
(jamesdmarco) - MLife

Locale: Finger Lakes
Re: Re: Upper-body Backpack on 06/07/2012 06:26:07 MDT Print View

"Are there packs that strap in very snuggly and hug the chest and ribs and back adequately enough that (for people with strong abdominal muscles) a hip support is unnecessary for light loads?"

Actually, Gossamer Gear makes one. What they call the "Big Bag." It works really well for biking. But I find the lower strap a bit high for support. It also works as a stabilizer to some degree.

Kronos Master of Fate
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Upper-body Backpack on 06/07/2012 19:04:48 MDT Print View

Man, I laughed so hard at Cameron's response. Read it while I was breaking in some used leather boots. Macadamia, what a nut!