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Doug Smith
(Jedi5150) - F - M

Locale: Central CA
Hilleberg Tent thread on 05/11/2012 20:24:21 MDT Print View

Hello all, after buying my first Hilleberg tent, the Tarra, I'm a huge fan of the brand. I'd like to get a thread going for people to chime in about their likes and dislikes of different Hilleberg models, incluing photos. While there are a decent number of reviews of these tents on youtube, etc., I've noticed that many are pretty lacking at showing the interiors of the tents. I think this is a shame, since inside the tent is where you spend most of your tent-related time.

I'd particularly love to hear comparisons of the Jannu and Nammatj 2, as one of these will likely be my next backpacking tent (solo plus pooch). Nobody has interior photos of either of these tents (at least that I can find).

I'll start off with the Tarra:

The Tarra is a hybrid tunnel/ dome, self-supporting 2 person, all season tent. The reason Hilleberg calls it a hybrid tunnel/ dome is because the walls are much more vertical than in a traditional dome tent, offering increased usable space inside.

The tent uses the heavier Kerlon 1800 fabric, and four 10mm poles. It has two entrances and vestibules, which are an exact mirror of each other. With dual entrances, an overhead roof vent, and full bug netting doors on the inner tent, you can get excellent ventilation, both horizontal and vertical.

Cons- The Tarra is a heavy tent at 9 lbs. It also has a very large pack size for a two person tent. These are not surprises when you buy the tent, however, they are well worth considering depending on what uses you have planned for it. Like all Hillebergs, it is also expensive, at roughly $900. The weight, cost, and pack size are really the only three negatives as far as I can tell. How much those weigh (pun intended) will be different for each individual and use.

Pros- The Tarra is a bomb shelter. From the fabric material to the poles, to the set-up, you get the overpowering feeling of being able to survive a nuclear winter. Setup is simple. It is one of the fastest tents I've ever set up, and easiest with one person. A tent this easy to set up a second person would almost be more in the way, than helpful. It is also a warm tent. I camped in it in 19* F weather, on deep snow, and the temperature inside the tent felt MUCH warmer than the outside temps. It is large 2 person tent. The large pack size and heavy weight pay off in this regard. Before I bought the Tarra, I saw it set up next to the larger 3-person Saivo. The vestibules in the Tarra felt larger, and the interior felt only slightly less roomy, thanks to the Tarra's excellent vertical walls and more vertical vestibule angles. The Tarra is the first 2 person tent I've been in that felt like it was really made for two people, plus gear. In fact, it feels like 3 would not be bad in an emergency situation.

For backpacking the Tarra would not be a bad choice if used truly for two people. At 4.5 lbs each (and the weight can be divided nicely due to the removable inner tent, poles, etc), the strength, comfort, and space of the tent would make it my tent of choice for 2 person backpacking in demanding conditions. As a 1 person tent, 9 lbs and the huge pack size make it a pretty poor choice (ask me how I know:). For solo motorcycle touring/ camping, where weight and pack size are less relevant, the Tarra is a palace.

Here are some photos of my Tarra. My backpacking partner, for reference, is a 60 lb Belgian Malinois:

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So now that I've got the ball rolling, I'd love to hear from other Hilleberg owners (and please put up pictures, inside and out).

PS- No flash was used on the second photo. The interiors really are cheery with the bright yellow color.

Edited by Jedi5150 on 05/11/2012 20:35:12 MDT.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Hilleberg Tent thread on 05/12/2012 09:00:06 MDT Print View

Hello Doug. I too have just joined the ranks of Hilleberg carriers. I bought an Unna for myself and my sometime canine companion.
Heavy compared to what a lot carry here sure. I slept like a rock in 60mph gusts in mine, so I'm sold on the extra weight at times.

Had a Duomid for a couple of years. Great shelter, but not quite long enough for me at 6'3".

I knew I wanted something that would last me for quite a while. Needed to be long. Side entry for those long legs and views.

Funny I do not miss not having a vestibule. Got use to having everything in with me in the mid. Bears abound here so cooking in the tent is not a good idea anyway.

The Unna without the inner is absolutely huge. Easily get two in there with their gear. Has more usable width 2 feet off the ground than the Duomid did too, so a nice roomy interior.

I have some lighter weight poles from a dome tent I owned decades ago that I am going to make a set for the Unna to save some weight for not so terrible weather trips.

A well thought out feature set for my use. Freestanding is a nice convenience as well. Can shake the tent out in the morning.

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Happy in my new home away from home.

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Comparing the Duo and Unna pitched

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The two packed. The Unna when packed outer only is of comparable size to the mid.

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Massive cavern!

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Plenty of room between the inner and outer to place your shoes. And they stay dry. The toggles are very easy and fast to use.

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The outer goes tight against the ground if needed. Blocking all wind. The night with high winds I noticed no discernible air movement in the tent. Blissfully calm.

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Tons of air space between the inner and outer.

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Totally out in the open in 40mph+ winds.

Hoping to get much more use out it in the future. My first tent in over 10 years. Been using a hammock or tarp and bivy.
Both are great options for times when you don't need a tent. I wanted a private space that was out of the wind. Easy and I mean it is really easy and fast to put up. That's always good. I just want in when I get to camp some nights.
Expensive, initially sure. Over the life of a properly cared for shelter, not so much. It was really hard to pul the trigger on spending so much on something just for me. A purchase that has begun to prove that it was a wise choice for me.

Oh yeah. I love the modularity of the design as well. I look forward to getting the mesh inner later. Good color too.

Here are some more pictures

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Nice steep walls

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That cheery yellow inner

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Nice huge entrance

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Looks roomy, but how roomy is it?

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Here it is with a large Neoair and my Ohm

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Without the inner I could easily fit two 25" wide pads in there.

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The vent at ground level in the rear is easy to operate. Can be deployed from inside when using outer only.

I have added this post to the reader reviews.

Edited by kthompson on 05/12/2012 14:16:39 MDT.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Soulo on 05/12/2012 11:14:51 MDT Print View

Hi Guys,

I have a Soulo and it's a great tent. I used it in Ireland recently and gave it a good shakedown.

Will post more later.

Cheers,

Stephen

Mary D
(hikinggranny) - MLife

Locale: Gateway to Columbia River Gorge
Hilleberg Tent thread on 05/12/2012 12:27:07 MDT Print View

I'd like to see more about the new Anjan (3-season version of the Nallo) when someone gets one and has a chance to use it in nasty alpine conditions.

Doug Smith
(Jedi5150) - F - M

Locale: Central CA
Re: Hilleberg Tent thread on 05/12/2012 13:25:07 MDT Print View

Ken, outstanding review of the Unna! That is exactly what I was hoping for. When I look for backpacking tents for myself and the dog, I look at the 2 person tents. This is mainly because whatever tent I buy has to do double duty of also sharing half of our 4 person family (not including dogs), so I've got to buy on the big side. If I was in the market for a tent for strictly me and my dog, the Unna would have been my choice hands down. It is wide enough to fit the pooch and myself, without the extra bulk of a two person tent. And I'm in agreement with you on vestibules. I really don't use them much and would prefer to have the room inside the inner tent.

Stephen, I'd love to read your Soulo review. It seems to be a popular model, so I'm sure others would appreciate it as well.

Mary, that's the thing about Hilleberg reviews. Some models get a lot of reviews and you can find almost anything you want to know about them on the internet. Other versions (like the Nammatj and Saivo for me), it's almost like nobody has ever bought them, there are so few reviews. I hope someone can put up an Anjan review for you.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: Re: Hilleberg Tent thread on 05/12/2012 14:20:11 MDT Print View

Hi Doug,

Posting on an Ipad so cannot add any pics.

I have only used the tent for two trips so I am not properly qualified yet to review the tent in full.

The first night I used the tent the weather was absolutely horrendous and I made the mistake of battening down the hatches, I woke up in the middle of he night thinking I was in a cold sauna, when I vented a bit things where Ok.

The other nights I used it I made sure to leave the inner and outer open a bit to allow good airflow and so cut condensation to a more manageable level.

The Soulo handles strong winds very well but the top cover can be a bit flappy, I did not encounter any snow on either trip but it certainly was cold enough for it.

Pitching the tent is very straight forward even with thick gloves on, I used the supplied stakes and augmented with 4 Blizzard stakes.

The inner is a small bit cramped (or I should say cosy) with the inner down closed but very spacious when it is open, I am 5 foot 10 inches tall and the foot box of my quilt touched off the bottom of the inner a bit. I might try using the outer by itself, saving a good bit of weight and giving more space.

I did try it with my winter bag in the garden and it definitely touches off the inner, fellow BPL member Stuart D did advise me to shorten the attaching cords by putting a few knots in them.

My TT Scarp 1 is a far more practical tent (better venting, 2 doors, more space) but as I only plan to use the tent in Winter I hoping this is not a major issue.

The Soulo is far easier to pitch and a god bit lighter than the Crux X2 storm Full Geo which I had for a few years.

I got the Soulo on sale direct from Hilleberg Us.

Cheers,

Stephen

Mary D
(hikinggranny) - MLife

Locale: Gateway to Columbia River Gorge
Anjan on 05/12/2012 16:19:36 MDT Print View

Doug, the Anjan is brand new, just released this month, and is sold out, so I don't expect to see any reviews of it for a while. Unless, of course, one of our BPL forum folks was able to get one of that first batch!

Edited by hikinggranny on 05/12/2012 16:21:48 MDT.

Doug Smith
(Jedi5150) - F - M

Locale: Central CA
Re: Anjan on 05/12/2012 17:51:05 MDT Print View

Ah, I didn't realize it was so new. I've seen it in the catalogue since the beginning of the year, so I assumed it had been out a while. It must be well worth looking at if it's already sold out. :)

Charles Jennings
(Packgoat)
Hilleberg Anjan photos on 05/12/2012 22:27:35 MDT Print View

http://www.trailspace.com/forums/gear-selection/topics/124226.html

I posted a bunch of photos of the Anjan over at Trailspace.com, once I received a couple of them in for inventory. (I sold both in just a few days).

I plan on getting an Anjan for Summer use above treeline in the Winds.

(DISCLOSURE - I am an authorized Hilleberg Retailer.)

Doug Smith
(Jedi5150) - F - M

Locale: Central CA
Re: Hilleberg Anjan photos on 05/12/2012 22:46:14 MDT Print View

"(DISCLOSURE - I am an authorized Hilleberg Retailer.)"

Charles, are you based out of Utah by chance? :)

Edited by Jedi5150 on 05/12/2012 22:47:12 MDT.

Charles Jennings
(Packgoat)
Hilleberg on 05/12/2012 23:44:08 MDT Print View

Yep, up near Logan.

Doug Smith
(Jedi5150) - F - M

Locale: Central CA
Logan on 05/13/2012 00:36:03 MDT Print View

I had a feeling you might be the same Hilleberg distributor I've been chatting with on 24hourcampfire. :)

Peter s
(Darkness) - F
Kaitum 2 in Sarek National Park on 05/13/2012 11:47:19 MDT Print View

Some pictures from our trip to Sarek national park in Sweden where we had 2 Hilleberg Kaitum 2 tents

Twin Hilleberg Kaitum 2

Sarek National Park, Sweden

Sarek National Park, Sweden

Sarek National Park, Sweden

Mike Allen
(michaellea62) - F

Locale: UTAH
Hilleberg atko question on 05/13/2012 13:10:04 MDT Print View

Charles, I have the atko and was wondering if the new mesh inner for the atko would save me any weight compared to the inner tent that comes with the original tent?
Thanks for your help
Mike

Doug Smith
(Jedi5150) - F - M

Locale: Central CA
Re: Hilleberg atko question on 05/13/2012 13:32:04 MDT Print View

Mike, Charles can let you know for sure, but on another forum I read that the mesh inner tents are almost identical in weight to their stock counterparts. The mesh inner for the Atko is 1 lb, 5 oz, and the standard inner is probably within an ounce or two of that.

Mike Allen
(michaellea62) - F

Locale: UTAH
Hilleberg atko question on 05/13/2012 14:03:53 MDT Print View

Thanks Doug. I was hoping that it would shave a little weight off my atko, because I really love that tent but it's not exactly a light weight solo shelter. I've got my eye on the notch and light heart solo and solong 6, but waiting for some more reviews on the tents...

Doug Smith
(Jedi5150) - F - M

Locale: Central CA
Re: Hilleberg atko question on 05/13/2012 14:27:09 MDT Print View

I dunno Mike, the Atko is 3.5 lbs packed weight, and is a 4 season tent. To me that meets the "very" light category. It's all relative. 3 lbs may seem heavy if you're comparing it to a tarp and groundcloth, with trekking poles for support, but that would be an unfair comparison. A tent will provide creature (literally) and cold weather comforts that a light shelter never could.

I joined this site to find ways to lighten my load, and make my backpacking more comfortable. But in the end, it's not always about hiking the entire PCT with nothing but boxer shorts and a Nalgene bottle. They could have titled the website "Ultralight Backpacking", but they didn't. IMHO a 3.5 lb 4 season tent is light. ;-) Just my .02 cents.

BER ---
(BER) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Hilleberg tent thread on 05/13/2012 15:48:23 MDT Print View

I recently bought a Kaitum 2p and had it out for its first overnight this weekend with my wife and 60# pup. Coming from a BA Copper Spur UL3, I found the Kaitum 2 a bit narrower than my ideal. We tend to like to spread our stuff. I did like the ease of setup, found the air movement to be good with the end vents open, and liked exiting at my wife's feet rather than her head (it seems too many two person tents with end-entry slope down away from the entry and are designed for head at the door positioning--the Kaitum does not). I will likely buy a Kaitum 3p to compare and either send back the 3p if too large, or sell the 2p. Wish it was lighter of course....

Www.moontrail.com has pretty good pics of many of the Hillebergs. Inside and out for some.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Re: Hilleberg atko question on 05/13/2012 16:07:47 MDT Print View

The Akto is a really nice poor weather tent but lacks headroom, is condensation prone because it lacks ventilation, and cannot take any meaningful snow load as the ends will collapse. It is really a 3+ season shelter for most of us.

I thought it was well made but much too heavy for a 3+ shelter and sold it a couple of years back.

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Melbourne
Hilleberg Tent thread on 05/13/2012 17:21:52 MDT Print View

The Akto mesh inner is listed at 550g.
BPL measured the fabric inner at 473g.

Doug
But in the end, it's not always about hiking the entire PCT with nothing but boxer shorts and a Nalgene bottle
A Nalgene 1 L bottle is 180g.
A standard 1.25L soda water bottle is 45 g (Aquafina bottles are lighter)
What were you thinking ?
Franco